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Date Posted：18/10/2005 7:34 AMCopy HTML $%*'`[Meg]%*'`@As some may be aware, I have posted before on this forum. I was in the RF from age 16 to 38. I was married, and had my two kids, now 15 and 16 in the RF.Growing up, my kids had what we considered good friends. My son, in particular, had a close friend just a few weeks older than him. They had sleep overs, went to kids camps, and had great fun at Carrickalinga camp. However, it was very different for my daughter. She has a disability and was not included with the other kids activities. Although she went to kids camps, it was difficult for her.And now? Of course there is NO contact with any former friends. Imagine how kids feel. As adults it still hurts, but we know why it happens. Kids don't.We now go to a small, vibrant church, full of love and joy. And acceptance. My daughter said that in the RF nobody spoke to her much, and she had few friends. Now she says proudly " Even P Garry speaks to me!!" She really loves it there.Unfortunately, my son has decided not to go to church anymore. It is his choice, and we hope sometime down the track he may change. We do not pressure him to come, as this does not work.
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mf doom
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Re：What about the kids? Date Posted：24/10/2005 8:55 AMCopy HTML sounds like everything's working out well... good move not putting pressure on your son. he should be fine...
if it gives you joy, enjoy! life aint pretty without it
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MothandRust
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Re：What about the kids? Date Posted：15/02/2006 10:02 PMCopy HTML Reply to: Marmalade Pie
And here's another tragedy... the kids who grow up conforming to the community, waiting for the world to end and learning how to hand out pamphlets to the inferior worldlies around them. Let's cut to the chase here. Revival churches are cults. Their affliliates are cults. They all suck. And they all have the capacity to harm their children psychologically.... and do! They manipulate children because they live as a closed society that justifies their reclusiveness with religious beliefs. Their doctrine is preached as nonfalsifiable and unchallengeable and it keeps the kids locked into it for fear of the outside world. The church structure sets itself us as a family and turns parents into "middle management". I've seen medical neglect by parents who chose to ignore doctor's pleas (luckily or blessfully, the kids are ok) and I've seen a lot of hoopla against vaccination which seems to have been villified by some as part of the worldly conspiracy to control us all and feed the World Heath Organisation bank account. Man, I used to stress because my kids hated going to church. Prayer time and bible reading became chores and it got even worse when we went Baptist on them. All the hand raising and slaying at the prayer line just had them raising their eyebrows and wondering what the heck was going on. For an 8 and 10 year old, they seemed to be pretty switched on, but eager to humour their parents. LOL Yeah, I'm glad they're out of Revival before they turned into the mindless arrogant little sheep I see being brought up by friends who are still caught up in the system.
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Marmalade Pie
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Re：What about the kids? Date Posted：16/02/2006 4:35 AMCopy HTML Reply to H&S:
Yeh I mean how much worse can you get than psychologically harming kids? There again, the parents can end up psychologically harmed as well. Sometimes you can tell the RF parents who are picking their kids up from school; they are the ones who stand on their own a lot and cannot mix in easily. The wreckage is everywhere. An old RF friend who has teetered on the brink of leaving after 20+ years told me the other day that things are going a bit better now in the church because his daughter has brought a friend to some meetings. He cannot think of life issues outside of attending meetings. Yet for all the meetings he attends, his family has little joy, and his enjoyment of the Bible is affected by his RF association. My daughter came home the other day from her new school and told us she had attended a prayer meeting there at lunchtime. I didn't know they even did such things there, but she found out about it and wanted to go. I was happy to hear it. We attended a new church recently and the same daughter loved the talk the bloke gave. She listened to every bit of it. It made me laugh. I estimated that I have given in my lifetime about 1100+ talks, quite a few of which she has heard. She's never liked any of mine. The good thing is that she is now making her own choices and she makes them without any psychological hangups and fear of a bullying organization and frightened parents. I know what you"re thinking....did I put 5 people out or 6?... I guess in all the excitement I kinda lost count myself...so the question is, do you feel lucky?...well do you, punk? - Clint Eastwood
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Re：What about the kids? Date Posted：17/02/2006 2:25 PMCopy HTML |
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Re：What about the kids? Date Posted：17/02/2006 3:14 PMCopy HTML
WHAT IS YOUR POINT? The RF may have only been around in name for 11 yrs but their teachings and practices have been around for much longer than that. You know that, I know that so who cares if someone writes that they have been in the RF for longer than 11 years. When the RF started I had been in the RCI for many years and after the name change I for one did not notice a difference and I know there would be many others who would back me up on that. Same talks, same pastors, same rules and regs, same beliefs (bar the outcome for people who fornicate), same control over your life, same message. Notice a pattern. SAME!!! All the RF is, is a name change from the RCI and a slight difference in their beliefs. |
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Re：What about the kids? Date Posted：17/02/2006 6:32 PMCopy HTML $%*'`[Jesus is God believer]%*'`@Exactly right. When the split happened we all said "We are not changing, we are the same, it is them that have moved!" And I guess "They" said the same thing.
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Zoreena K
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Re：What about the kids? Date Posted：18/02/2006 2:51 PMCopy HTML Don't be so perdantic. For goodness sake. The RCI attended changed to the RF, not one person left. All was exactly the same. It gets easier
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MothandRust
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Re：What about the kids? Date Posted：01/03/2006 1:31 PMCopy HTML
"It is especially frightening when children are involved. Revival children hear tongues in a meeting situation up to three times a week and also get plenty of exposure at home. Very young children are sometimes heard to try and imitate their parents when they pray. Within these groups, children well understand that if Jesus returns before they get the Holy Spirit / Speak in Tongues, then they will miss out. They may never see their friends and family again. Knowing then that tongues can be duplicated, it is not hard to see how these very impressionable children may be coerced into a learned habit rather than their salvation in Christ. This is a phenomenal pressure on a young child and literally forces their emphasis off Christ, and onto tongues. " - (quote) Drew Dixon http://www.pleaseconsider.info/ Instagram and Twitter: @mothpete
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Re：What about the kids? Date Posted：13/05/2013 5:17 AMCopy HTML In fact the only thing that has changed here in Adelaide after the split was that in about 2000ish John Kuhlmann stopped the comb-overs. My guess is that he run out of that lard surplus he must of had.
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