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Date Posted:16/07/2010 10:19 AMCopy HTML

I was surprised to see Lisa Gerrard in the Voice of Revival - June 2001 - "WE BELIEVE"

http://www.rci.org.au/publications/vor/2001/200106_vor/lisagerard.htm

She is an amazing vocalist who received a Golden Globe Award for the music score to the film Gladiator, in collaboration with Hans Zimmer. She sounds very Enya-like and I'm a huge fan of her song, "Now we are free". Her partner claims she is not associated with Revival Churches, but there's something odd about all of this. She says she started singing in an invented language when she was 12 years old. She is aged 49 this year (2010) but according to the 'testimony' in the VOR, she believes she was 'filled' with the Holy Spirit when she turned 35.

She claims to have been miraculously healed from Hepatitis C, and that it is incurable, but that's not true. Many people do recover from HC, and a fair proportion do it without therapy. Furthermore, the Pathology paper 'pictures' are less than convincing. I'm not saying she didn't have Hep C, and the papers could well real. 

I wonder if any RCI members could shed any light on this. I doubt she is involved with the Revival cults anymore and I'll follow up this post with that evidence of recent direct quotes from Lisa.


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Re:Voice of Revival - Lisa Gerrard testimony

Date Posted:16/07/2010 10:28 AMCopy HTML

I truly doubt she is involved with the same 'church' she was when the article was written in 2001. I base this on the following replies she made to questions put to her on her official forum. Revivalists DO NOT support homosexuality in any way. They definitely do not believe that 'love' will align anyone with God, and there is zero tolerance towards 'swearing'.

2002


Anon1: The "testimony" on Revival Centres International might as well have come from Sally Sue Johnson from Memphis, Tennesee. It just doesn't read like Lisa Gerrard wrote it.

Anon2: I think you're on to something. I've just read the piece, and my take on it is that it was ghost-written. Lisa was interviewed, and the interviewer went off and wrote the article from his/her notes.

Lisa's partner: Why not just look at what the testimony is about not where it comes from or has been posted. So if I read an article about you in a farming newspaper that makes you a farmer? We (Lisa and I) are not part of any (religious) organizations! (accept maybe for blockbuster video). My self I find it hard to attach God any (earthly) organization and hope that you do the same.

Hans Zimmer: Gerrard sings many of her songs, such as Now We Are Free and Sanvean  in an idioglossia (an idiosyncratic language) that she has developed since the age of twelve. It is Lisa Gerrard's voice. It is not words or any particular language. Instead of LALA or HMHMHM, we wanted to try something different, so we did that. It was funny how Ridley and I played the entire film with music and no dialogue. After watching Ridley said that the haunting voice of Lisa does tell us the story from an ancient language, only it’s not. http://www.filmtracks.com/comments/titles/gladiator/index.cgi?read=840

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Question from Diogo Andrade: The first topic in the “To Those Who Care” thread is about homosexuality. In a religious vision, what do you think about it? I know that you must be very careful when responding but what do you think about it?

For one thing, never look at anything religiously. Lets take politics out of the equation. Wherever you want to look, you probably need to use your wisdom, but when it comes to love, it’s a god thing, and there’s this scripture in the bible, and I know nobody wants to hear about the bible, but it says that if you know love, you know god, because god is love.

So if you love absolutely, then god is with you, love is with you, and you can only create a fantastic influence in the world because you will sympathise through the gentleness of your compassion, so much so that you will never be judged.

Question from texrah: Aside you’re your music, do you have strong feelings about global warming? Politics?

Strength comes from laughing at pain. An old Irish friend told me once ‘there’s no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothing’. We have no power over the powers that are destroying (temporarily) their own inhabitants. Live for now because they are not going to go away. I had this idea the other day that maybe we should move underground, but I know that we’re going to die anyway, so what difference does it make? All we can do is the best we can because those powers that are just so fucking greedy and that don’t give a shit about anybody except their own bank account have no right to be dignified in this conversation. So be well, and take cover. I don’t have a solution, but I know that if we love each other, that in some way there will be some abstract chariot that will lead us out to a place where we will meet in our dreams.
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Re:Voice of Revival - Lisa Gerrard testimony

Date Posted:26/07/2010 9:09 AMCopy HTML

 for those wondering yes lisa still fellowships with the RCI has done for a lot of years , i was there when she came along , and am still there now and so is she her partner at the time was also part of RCI and was spirit filled speaking in tongues the same as she is,
  I am wondering what the big deal is over a few swear words, we all slip up we are all human noone is going to be put out fellowship for  the f-bomb now and then . 
 Yes she had hepatitus c  I remeber the time well and yes the medical stuff is real,  a little piece taken from the National Hepatitus C Coalition  states
 "The strongest scientific evidence available indicates that hepatitis C is NOT a completely curable disease".  I dont know about anyone else but when i went to school we were taught at school about the incurability of hep c and it being the one hepatitus that cannot be cured, am thinking some people musta been hiding under the desk or smoking out back when that lesson  was on.

 I cannot believe how you can sit and say how fake someone illness is because you dont want to admit God performed a miracle you really getting low there :p



 
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for those wondering yes lisa still fellowships with the RCI has done for a lot of years , i was there when she came along , and am still there now and so is she her partner at the time was also part of RCI and was spirit filled speaking in tongues the same as she is,

Well, thanks for letting us know. There have been a fan or two on her forum that have been wondering what her status was in terms of religion. I think I should be able to let them in on that info.

  I am wondering what the big deal is over a few swear words, we all slip up we are all human noone is going to be put out fellowship for  the f-bomb now and then . 

Hey, I think it's great that Revivalists can be less uptight and swear a little in public now and then. Kudos to her.

 Yes she had hepatitus c  I remeber the time well and yes the medical stuff is real,  a little piece taken from the National Hepatitus C Coalition  states  "The strongest scientific evidence available indicates that hepatitis C is NOT a completely curable disease".  I dont know about anyone else but when i went to school we were taught at school about the incurability of hep c and it being the one hepatitus that cannot be cured, am thinking some people musta been hiding under the desk or smoking out back when that lesson  was on.

I think someone was asleep during the spelling and grammar lessons too, but let's not squabble. Fact is, that people do get 'cured' (or come into remission) from Hep C, and there's definitely no 'strong scientific' data to validate the claims that Lisa herself was completely healed due to supernatural interference, but that's the nature of miracles I suppose.

 I cannot believe how you can sit and say how fake someone illness is because you dont want to admit God performed a miracle you really getting low there :p

Well I can't believe that I could say it was fake seeing as that's NOT what I said. If you care to read what I actually said... "I'm not saying she didn't have Hep C, and the papers could well be real." It seems you can twist my words as easily as you do the Bible's.

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Re:Voice of Revival - Lisa Gerrard testimony

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Here's my own "little piece taken from the National Hepatitus C Coalition":

While I'm thinking about it I'm going to answer one of the most common questions we receive from patients lately: "Aren't Naomi Judd (or Lisa Gerrard) and that guy from Aerosmith cured?"

The answer is that these two individuals (and many others as well) have made such claims, but there still is no test that is able to accurately measure absolute zero virus in the body (current testing measures our blood, NOT what may be hiding in internal organs). Without reliable testing to confirm that the virus is completely gone from the entire body, there's no way to know whether it's truly eradicated or just hiding somewhere where it can't be detected, possibly to resurface at a later time. We've known far too many folks over the years who were told by their doctors that they were cured, only to learn years later that the virus was once again detectable. People feel crushed when this happens because most of us would like NOT to have to admit we've ever had this doggone disease in the first place! The word "remission" is really much more accurate in these situations anyway, and the word doesn't hurt our funding. Most people don't realize it, but our Congress doesn't believe we need anywhere near adequate funding for this disease because they think we already have a cure and don't need it - thanks to well-intentioned individuals who've gone to Washington, D.C. and led our leaders to believe accordingly.

http://nationalhepatitis-c.org/
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Re:Voice of Revival - Lisa Gerrard testimony

Date Posted:26/07/2010 12:08 PMCopy HTML

 bahahaha  my bad  i should have stated you were inferring they arent real sorry for reading between the lines on that one :P , and no i do not twist the bibles words,  not at all ,   I am sure that if what i have been doing and where i have been going for  my whole life  is wrong  God will show me  that , it is not up to you or anyone else to make sweeping claims as to wether I twist the scriptures or not  really, thats Gods call noone elses, and I would hope that while you taking the mite you think is in my   eye  out you have removed the  huge tree that may well be in yours . In the long run  its between me and God you and God everyone and God he is the ultimate Judge .
 My spelling   well lot water passed under the bridge since i was at school and getting A+s for year 10 english ( been trying to edit my date birth on my profile for ages and it wont let me edit profile  should read closer to 1968 than 1980 lol), and i really couldnt be bothered proof reading and correcting my typos, i  believe in people learning to read and speak fluent typo  :p, grammar and spelling really doesnt matter does it as long as people get the general idea of what one says  :D

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Re:Voice of Revival - Lisa Gerrard testimony

Date Posted:26/07/2010 12:52 PMCopy HTML

 No wuckas
dig for a dig... :P

Peace. And I love Lisa's work. Her work in Baraka was incredible.

bahahaha  my bad  i should have stated you were inferring they arent real sorry for reading between the lines on that one :P , and no i do not twist the bibles words,  not at all ,   I am sure that if what i have been doing and where i have been going for  my whole life  is wrong  God will show me  that ,

Luckily, 'he' has shown plenty of people that they had been twisting scriptures. If the result has you speaking gibberish and thinking it's a miracle then you're not really listening to god in the first place, in my opinion. This forum has plenty of examples of people who realised that they were misguided, and some for a lifetime.

it is not up to you or anyone else to make sweeping claims as to wether I twist the scriptures or not  really, thats Gods call noone elses, and I would hope that while you taking the mite you think is in my   eye  out you have removed the  huge tree that may well be in yours .

I'm very happy someone suggested that I was off the track. 

 In the long run  its between me and God you and God everyone and God he is the ultimate Judge .
 My spelling   well lot water passed under the bridge since i was at school and getting A+s for year 10 english ( been trying to edit my date birth on my profile for ages and it wont let me edit profile  should read closer to 1968 than 1980 lol), and i really couldnt be bothered proof reading and correcting my typos, i  believe in people learning to read and speak fluent typo  :p, grammar and spelling really doesnt matter does it as long as people get the general idea of what one says  :D

Not wanting to be a spelling Nazi, for sure. I was just pointing out the irony in mocking people who missed the 'Hep C' lesson in school. Anyhoo, did you read the quote I found at the Hep C website. While in Revival I knew of many people who were miraculously healed (or in remission) who were then quite disappointed later on in life when it came back. This stuff is pretty normal in real life (aka. not Revival). 

Again, thanks for the info on Lisa, and if you're happy in 'Revival' and you know it, clap your hands, eh?


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Re:Voice of Revival - Lisa Gerrard testimony

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