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Date Posted:17/06/2009 4:01 AMCopy HTML

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Dear ACL Supporter

When surveys designed by the people paying for them to be conducted ask questions that work to influence the outcome, “framing bias” is the term used.

The report in today’s Melbourne Herald Sun tells us that a survey conducted for and paid for by a homosexual activist group gave a not unsurprising result.

Can we encourage you to vote NO on this voteline? Click here to vote. These polls generally close at midnight for reporting in the paper the next morning.

Let’s make our voices heard in support of marriage between a man and a woman.

Thanks for taking action.

God bless

Jim Wallace AM
Managing Director

 

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Re:VOTE 'NO' TO SAME SEX MARRIAGE

Date Posted:26/06/2009 3:12 AMCopy HTML

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Where do Christians stand on the subject of the Government recognising de-facto relationships (between Men and Women) as having the same legal rights as a traditional Marriage?

Tommo

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Re:VOTE 'NO' TO SAME SEX MARRIAGE

Date Posted:26/06/2009 6:14 AMCopy HTML

 Hello Tommo,

Speaking for myself and my own opinion, I think the fact that the government has taken over the administration of marriages and divorces etc, and de-facto and same sex unions, from the Church, means that apart from having a priest - or in the case of rc's - a pastor - perform the ceremony, there is not much difference.  It seems the Roman Empire had better standards as far as administration of these than our State does today. 

As a Christian, and a divorced one at that, I will not marry again.  I will take the Apostle Paul's advise and seek not to be married.  Considering the state of our society, also the lopsided divorce laws and amount of immorality out there, perpetrated by both sexes alike, why on earth would one seek to be married.

When i look at the "rights" issues of de-facto versus marrieds - is it not more about divorce than marriage?  You only need to assert the "rights" during a divorce.  No-one is stopping anyone from getting together.  There are no legal disadvantages now between de-facto or marrieds.  No-one is stopping pre-nuptual or other agreements to be brought into the situation either. 

Live and let live I say.   If people who do not beleive the bible want de-facto - that is their right.  They "should" be well aware of the "rights" but also the "responsabilities" and perhaps future " liabilities" that may be incurred should they divorce.  If you sign a contract  - any contract - including a marriage certificate - you need to know what you are up for.  And if you do not agree to what the "state" legislate about the matter, we are all free to pre-nup or sign a legal agreement before hand that may ensure a more biblical and fair outcome in case of divorce.

Mr Klms 


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Re:VOTE 'NO' TO SAME SEX MARRIAGE

Date Posted:28/06/2009 9:55 AMCopy HTML

Why are people so hypocritical?  From what I heard, MrK took his wife for everything he could – and more!  However – if anyone is going to comment on the legalities of divorce – and how to take your partner to the cleaners – MrK would know best.

 

I find it particularly funny how Mr K is worried about morality.  His comments  Considering the state of our society, also the lopsided divorce laws and amount of immorality out there, perpetrated by both sexes alike, why on earth would one seek to be married.” are a joke.  It is like a thief complaining that the stuff he has stolen is at risk of being taken by someone else.

 

Maybe Mr K should take more of the Apostle Pauls Advice (love, compassion, etc) – and not try to justify his future actions by quoting this Apostle.

 

Oh – and wasn’t Mr K engaged after cheating on his first wife.  Maybe the problem isn’t with others . . . .  .

 

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Re:VOTE 'NO' TO SAME SEX MARRIAGE

Date Posted:28/06/2009 11:31 AMCopy HTML

Reality Bites,

As far as my divorce goes - I don't recall seeing you involved with the lawyers - your comments are rude and pure conjecture. 

For my morality comment - I don't think I am wrong. 

As for my actions - I already have a judge, His position has not been advertised in the positions vacant collumns as far as I see - so stop trying to do His job.

As for me being "engaged" - more conjecture.  I am cellibant.

Fact is - you just don't know my business as well as you think.  Or perhaps your source of information may not be reliable, informed, or just plain biased.  Either way, you merely attempting to assinate my character, doesn't make anything you say true or informed. 

I have been upfront about my sin when I joined this forum.  It took me a while to sort myself out, but I did, with God's help, and the support of the Anglican Church.  I have reformed my behaviour, and am content to live a single cellibant God honouring life.  That is the reality.  That is the power of Christ, and His power of restoration and reconcilliation.

Now I say to you - pax et bonum.
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Re:VOTE 'NO' TO SAME SEX MARRIAGE

Date Posted:28/06/2009 1:44 PMCopy HTML

I met your Ex once at convention Mr K,  and once was enough, I can see why you'd go without, and give up on marrage altogether. Hopfully you will finaly have some peace in your life now. :)
Unless a person has walked in that persons shoes and experianced what they have seen, heard, felt and been through,  nobody has the right to judge another.  As Jesus said, "He who is without sin let him cast the first stone".



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