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"When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, 'This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know,' the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything—you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him."
—Robert A. Heinlein, If This Goes On, 1940
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Date Posted:19/10/2011 8:41 AMCopy HTML

I don't have to be nice I'm not going to heaven so XXX you ian
Here is a song that I think we will all like.
You want to world to end for jesus to come back bull shit
I just figure that the world will come to an end at some point in time because to many religions and their sheeple just want to kill some other fucking god fearing morons.
The end of the world will come in a a nuclear war at some time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntLsElbW9Xo
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Date Posted:19/10/2011 8:43 AMCopy HTML

I heard a joke the other day
The devil tells Ian the dickhead that "you Christians are so fuuccckkking annoying and think your superiour. When in fact that it's just that you out number every other group down here." HAHAAHA fuuuccckk you ass hole
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Guest,

You are so screwed up. I'm thinking you are one of Nat's boys. I hope not.
I believe in Christianity as I believe the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C.S.Lewis.
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Date Posted:20/10/2011 10:56 AMCopy HTML

Reply to Didaktikon

Galien,

Really?? You must be getting old Ian, or do you keep a file of this stuff? Almost word for word the shame shit you have thrown at me. Helloooooo. I did say "all the loonies" after all (ergo there's nothing at all unique or special about you, m'dear). Must be boring as hell in that one size fits all world of yours. Should laminate it and use it as a placemat, if you don't aready. Interesting, but it's people like you who make the mistake of viewing Christianity in one dimensional terms. Anyway. Whilst I acknowledge you believe yourself above learning from people who actually know what they're talking about, if you were to sit up, shut up, and try listening for a change, who knows? You might shock everyone by broadening your rather limited mind ;)

Goose.

Ian

I couldn't care less if god himself descended from heaven and ordered me to go back to church. i would refuse point blank if it meant spending one more second with cold hearted fuckwits like you and your ilk. Only thing you know all about is the inside of your own ego.

Oh and the photo in the paper was interesting. Not quite as young and thin as you would have us all believe :)
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Date Posted:21/10/2011 1:25 AMCopy HTML

The good old Catholic Church cult lies again

Over 300,000 babies stolen by Catholic Church in collusion with Spanish Government

I know this happened many years ago but who doesn't think it's still going on?

And people are still fighting over things that happened thousands of years ago so why not question the Catholic Cult for things that happened not that long ago? But go ahead and change cults. The GRC religion or the Catholic cult it's all the same. You are just fuuuuckkking sheep for the leaders.

SUCKERS!!!



http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2011/10/20/300000-babies-stolen-by-catholic-church-in-collusion-with-spanish-government/


EVERYBODY SING!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCDIt50hRDs

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Date Posted:21/10/2011 9:30 AMCopy HTML

Guest
Crawling? nah mate, you don't know what your missing out on.smiley9


GRC doctrine and teaching is the canker of spiritual growth. Getting to know scriptural truth, truly leads one out of a
source of corruption or debasement.


Fellowship with true & wise Christians keeps one informed or knowledgeable in God’s good, pleasing and perfect will, so it is able for us to obtain peace, health and happiness, which obviously is not a part of your life.

I believe in Christianity as I believe the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C.S.Lewis.
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Date Posted:21/10/2011 7:52 PMCopy HTML

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Galien,

I couldn't care less if god himself descended from heaven and ordered me to go back to church. And that's been my main point with you all these years. You've vocally claimed on this forum to being a Christian, and yet you've point-blank refused to submit to your Creator. You've point-blank refused to obey Jesus (Christianity is always on his terms, not yours given that the word 'Christian' means follower-of-Christ in Greek). Sadly you've consistently made it clear that there's no room in your 'belief' system to follow any god other than yourself.

The mistake you lot always make is that you stand in the place of any creator as his representative. You don't. Anyone has a problem with believing they are a little god mate it is you, not me. I no longer claim to be anything other than a person who used to love a construct in my mind. People like you have shown me that although I once believed in a christ that died for my sin, it is all most likely rubbish. 

i would refuse point blank if it meant spending one more second with cold hearted f***wits like you and your ilk. Remember that statement when you find yourself alone throughout eternity.

Considering the hell christians have already put me through, I don't see that as a bad thing. I don't believe in eternity. Unlike you, I have no problem dealing with the thought of my own non existence. I don't need some kind of afterlife to cling to. 

Only thing you know all about is the inside of your own ego. Oh, I know much more than that. Among a good many other things I know you ;)

You know nothing about me Ian. You  don't get to decide who I am, I do. You christians are so good at that,  running about judging everyone and assuming you know what goes on inside everyone. You know nothing about the inner lives of others. Nothing a clue by four wouldn't fix. You decided at some point that eveyrone was shit and you judge everyone by the same sad criteria.

Oh and the photo in the paper was interesting. Not quite as young and thin as you would have us all believe :) Interesting. I've been interviewed on local television four times over the past three weeks, and in our newspaper twice. Yet on only one occasion, a rather chilly day at that, was I wearing the Army 'bear jacket'. Perhaps that's why you've assumed that I'm 'full-figured' :)

Accusing me of being deceptive now? I've mentioned a number of times that I'm 43 years old (I was born in the first half of 1968); that I'm 192cm (or 6'3 tall); and that I weigh 95kg, so I'd be very interested in you demonstrating where you believe I've claimed otherwise :)

Tracey, why don't you climb off the couch and come along to the Kapooka Open Day this Saturday? I've been appointed the Master of Ceremonies, and a paltry $5.00 entry fee will enable you to catch up with me 'in-the-flesh', so to speak. We could then compare our respective body shapes (remember, I know what you look like), perhaps even take a photo or two 

Well of course you are the master of cereonies, nothing more you love than for everyone to look at Ian and everyone to listen to Ian becase he is SO important and SO knowledgable and just an all around amazing chap.

Ian I could care less how "figured" you are. It is irrelevant. The only reason I haven't had a few of my friends come around and give you the tune up they would like to is that I like the idea of violence rather than the violence itself.  You are a bloody disgrace to the god you say you serve and the country you say you serve. Nothing this town needs more than to see your sorry ass disappearing down the Hume Highway. 


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Date Posted:21/10/2011 9:06 PMCopy HTML

If brown nosing to ian makes you happy good luck to you,obviously he enjoys it.Sadly for you anr ian you prefer the preaises of men to whats really important,
God hates pride,boasting,the self righteous,NO EXCEPTIONS.
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Date Posted:21/10/2011 11:49 PMCopy HTML

If brown nosing to ian makes you happy good luck to you,obviously he enjoys it. for you anr ian you prefer the preaises of men to whats really important,
Wrong again ‘Buster’. You’d do much better posting something more constructive than using Bible texts as unrighteous judgments toward others.

I believe in Christianity as I believe the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C.S.Lewis.
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Date Posted:22/10/2011 5:45 AMCopy HTML

Actually I'm quite boring and not nearly as infamous as you would have people believe. Shame you never learned to listen as well as you waffle on.

Whomever that other person who commented was right. You re a momumental fuckwit. Perhaps you could ask your commandant to put up a little statue out there at Kapooka to remember you by.

You still basicaly know, well, XXX all really about me or anything else.
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Date Posted:22/10/2011 6:10 AMCopy HTML

Reply to Didaktikon

Good morning, Galien.

The mistake you lot always make is that you stand in the place of any creator as his representative. You don't. Anyone has a problem with believing they are a little god mate it is you, not me. I no longer claim to be anything other than a person who used to love a construct in my mind. People like you have shown me that although I once believed in a christ that died for my sin, it is all most likely rubbish. What's 'rubbish' is the construct that you've created because your pride consistently prevents you from accepting correction. That's arrogance of the highest order, Tracey, and eclipses any hubris that you could ever accuse me of.

Do you ever wonder why it is Ian that you so delight in correcting others? No I bet you don't. You just know how much you enjoy it. And it is never arrogant to believe you are just the one to do the correcting is it?


Personal responsibility for what exactly, being terrorised by a pentecostal church when I was teenager into believing there was a demon under every coffee mug and believing it to the point where I could not stay inside a house alone until my mid twenties? Being told by stupid revival not to go see a counsellor to deal with my childhood trauma then the pastor continuing to traumatise me even further? Being told further by christians my depression was my fault and AGAIN being told to pray about it. What I did wrong was trust these idiots in the first place and be stupid enough to believe they were honest. 

I expected christians to live what they say they believe. They don't. They are full of piss and wind when the rubber hits the road, none more so than you Ian.


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You clearly have little idea what goes on in the real world Ian. I never said I was the only person that had ever been hurt, a charge you ALWAYS lay at the feet of anyone who dares say they have been hurt at all. Your compassion fatigue is tiresome but standard fare for you and your type. Typical blaming the victim bullshit, because acknowledging the church had any problems at all (which you NEVER do) may necessitate actually addressing and fixing them.

Lots of people who come here accuse you of hypocrisy but oh no none of us are right, its always Ian the perfect, Ian the perpetually correct. Everyone else is a goose or a twit or just plain, what was it, mad, sad or bad. Except of course those who agree with you.

According to you the entire orthodox church is perfect and never guilty of any wrongdoing. What an absolute crock of shit.

And all this based on scriptures that may or may not be true based on a god whose existence no one can prove.

Oh and I always love the nice touch of bringing up whatever it is you can find to toss at me. You honestly think I give a shit?

But no, Ian is a perfect little christian, humble and kind and full of love for everyone. Yeah right.


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Date Posted:23/10/2011 12:42 AMCopy HTML

And while I think of it Ian, why does a person who purports to know so much about so much and has a wife who is a counsellor ask such dumb questions? If you had the slightest idea about what shame, guilt  and trauma do to a person, you wouldn't. You constantly dismiss the suffering of those who come to this site as something they should get over in five minutes and you laugh at people who don't.

I doubt that any of the time you spent in revival had anything to do with being traumatised, or controlled by guilt and shame. You spent three years there as a young person and Im guessing you never had to deal with the way they play spouses and friends and offspring and their friends against each other in your personal family life. You constantly dismiss the fact that these people have damaged some people beyond repair. Some people recruited into revival were already damaged beyond repair but revival just added insult to the injury and your resonse to that is to laugh at people.

You seem to think that throwing a few scriptures at people will fix everything. If there seems to be a simple answer to a complex problem it is usually wrong. You think you know what everyone's problem is so you don't listen to what they say, because you actually don't care about them. If you can pat them on the head and point them in the direction of the nearest orthodox church you then pat yuourself on the back and tell yourself what a great guy you are. That is really just the orthodox christian equaivalent of pray about which really means don't bother me with your real problems, I don't have a clue.

The problem with orthodox christians is nearly always the same. You have a 1950's view of the world where everyone is a middle class sane human being with no baggage and no difficulty fitting cultural and social norms. Anything outside that sends you into a flat spin of blame and pointing the finger and self congratulations about how you would never do such a thing. I remmeber it well :) Oh we (the christians) have the right way to view everything, our worldview is correct in every way and everyone else is wrong. Tell me Ian, who would want to have anything to do with such arrogant judgemental and close minded people exept their own kind?

And while you are busy being such a clever boy you may want to ask the person you mentioned yesterday why he didn't follow policy and ask me to leave my employment when he had full knowledge of the facts but instead asked me to stay. Try and realise that even christians lie and misrepresent things to take the heat off themselves. You should know :)



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I believe the ‘Christian Worldview’ does have the answer and solution to the world’s and each individual’s problems. Trouble is some that claim to be Christians and non Christians alike, don’t want to accept that which is right nor walk accordingly.

 

It is how one reacts to a situation that determines the outcome. If the outcome is problematic, the blame starts with ‘you’.

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I believe the ‘Christian Worldview’ does have the answer and solution to the world’s and each individual’s problems. Trouble is some that claim to be Christians and non Christians alike, don’t want to accept that which is right nor walk accordingly.

 

It is how one reacts to a situation that determines the outcome. If the outcome is problematic, the blame starts with ‘you’.

Gee that sounds SO revival I almost gagged. Sorry to hear you are always in the wrong mate.

The problem with that whole approach is that if the people you are dealing with do not also have it, you will always end up taking the blame for everything. Have you forgotten revival so soon?

Anyone who thinks they have the solutions for each and every problem is talking through their hat, whatever bandwagon they have hitched their cart to. If the world'd problems were that easily fixed then they would be fixed.

One of the biggest problems with the christian worldview is that those who claim to own it try and push everyone else around. People won't stand for that crap anymore.

You don't have to be a christian or embrace any religion at all to know what is right and do it. I know many christians who refuse to belong to a church anymore because they are tired of being bullied by those who claim to have the right to do so.

It is not a matter of not wanting to do what is right or walk accorcingly, it is a matter of knowng these people are no different from us, they can't even run their own lives with honesty or humility, so why on earth would we listen to people who can't even get their own shit together? If I want to be a humble and kind christian I am hardly going to listen to some twit who has let his knowledge and spiritual power go to his head. I would much rather listen to a humble and kind person who can be an example for me, not some douche who tries to push me around, and is every example to me of what a christian shouldn't be.

Years ago people were not educated and just assumed the spiritual authority the church takes and uses to justify their poor behaviour as a given. Years of having our hearts and our children raped by the assumption these are all good men are OVER.

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There you go Tracy, the very point I was trying to make; Trouble is some that claim to be Christians and non Christians alike, don’t want to accept that which is right nor walk accordingly. You are still doing just that and reacting that way blaming all others.
I believe in Christianity as I believe the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C.S.Lewis.
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There you go Tracy, the very point I was trying to make; Trouble is some that claim to be Christians and non Christians alike, don’t want to accept that which is right nor walk accordingly. You are still doing just that and reacting that way blaming all others.


Actually Ralph you have no idea what I do or don't do. You don't even bother to ask me because you don't give a shit. As long as you can point the finger at me you are happy. LIke your stupid mate you never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
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Ian, this site is littered with posts where you call people names, hurt them, insult them and belittle them. Your experiences in revival only taught you how to be an asshole just like them. This whole site is full of compelling evidence of you treating people like shit. Oh except for the really nasty ones which I notice your little mate deletes quick smart.

The day you asked me if I knew how easy it would be for you to psychologically, spiritually and emotionally destroy me told me every single thing I ever needed to know about what lurks beneath where you are concerned.

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You clearly have no idea of my experience and capabilities when it comes to the efficient use of extreme violence. But
Ian you are such a good wholesome christian.
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Good morning from Budapest Ian,

Tracey as usual is so wrong about you, what you say, and what you do. But when have facts every swayed her self absorbed diatribe? Such was I in many ways, as you know, and I am glad to say, by the grace of God, I digested much of what you said and had a change of heart and mind.

But I digress from a far more important purpose. My wife Sharon lays gravely ill from a stroke in hospital, The tests have revealed that she has the main artery to the left side of her brain three quarters blocked. Dangerous and could be fatal if they operate. Dangerous and could be fatal if they don't. I have beseeched our God and Father (in Jesus name) to restore her to health. Many friends are praying. Others we barely know are praying.

Now I beseech you Ian. Why? Because it is written "the effectual fervent prayers of a righteous man availeth much". I see you as very righteous in Christ and so seek your particular help. Please.

Hospitals in Budapest alas are very rundown. I sit vigil with her as long as I can.

To any others reading this who have compassion. I beg you to pray for her.

Old John

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No your wrong Tracy, I do care and have empathy for you and others.

My days of pointing the finger and judging others for their shortcomings ended at the time I left Revival and became a 'practicing' Christian.

I'm blessed with good health (for the age of 70) and happiness and have a peace within I never had whilst a Revivalist. I write what I write because by believing and following the bible, this has worked for me. Of course we all have our moments we dwell in a corruptible body, but our faith remains in God despite of.

 

It might appear at times my posts fall short of the mark in expressing my true thoughts, but it is always in the interest of others, this life and/or the life to come and not of myself.

I believe in Christianity as I believe the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C.S.Lewis.
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