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Just psyching myself up for sitting through another day of boredom...You know what really pisses me off...?The way "Pastor" Roland always adds 'uh' to the end of words, i.e. "Lorduh" or "Spirituh"I think its meant to be his more spiritual sounding voice. The way Jeremy says "um uh," after every second word.The fact there is a baby boom going on, probably because they are all just trying to keep with the trend.It's always the same people who help out in the kitchen, when everyone is supposed to be so loving and caring and wanting to help.And more which I can't think of right now.I laugh on the inside...When two people try to speak in tongues at once...When they make themselves sound superior to other churches...When a fuss is made about Facebook and having "backsliding" friends...I think that's it for now.Feel free to add your own thoughts.Anonymous.
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Just psyching myself up for sitting through another day of boredom.....

Hi,

What you have mentioned is very typical of the culture in RF amongst many of the fellowships (all that I've seen anyway).  I personally agree with the core doctrine, and I'm lucky enough to be able to attend somewhere where the importance of baptism in water and the Holy Ghost is preached.

The culture is definately hurting the RF.  Just like the culture on a building site, it aint gonna change anytime soon unfortunately...

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 You know what's funny, in the entire Melbourne Assembly there is only two people that would say such evil of brothers and sisters. Rachel and Kelly. How about you listen to Fay's poem and pray more. If you can't be bothered being a christian then LEAVE. Evil in the lump must leave, so how about you rustle up the courage and pray, and maybe the joy of the lord will show on your face. I cant understand why you would do such a thing as your comment above, I will be having a word to Daryl. People like you need to leave
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If you can't be bothered being a christian then LEAVE.

 

People like you need to leave 

 

That would be the best thing to do if one WANTS to be a Christian. Being involved in such a group is being a part of the evil false doctrine that is taught and practiced there.

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If you can't be bothered being a christian then LEAVE.

 

People like you need to leave 

 

That would be the best thing to do if one WANTS to be a Christian. Being involved in such a group is being a part of the evil false doctrine that is taught and practiced there.


Agreed.

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Hi Guest,

I will be having a word to Daryl.....

That sounds familiar; going off to tell the pastor about the errant ones.  He can then deal with them and issue warnings from the front about the evils of self expression.

It is not imho the bored listeners
but Daryl (and the like) who pose the greatest danger with their twisting of scripture.......and with such authority......fooling the unwary.  A real danger to the Christian faith.

For the sake of the Christian charity which I now know I would like to be a little kinder toward Daryl, I however cannot.  I've on occasions sat through some of Daryl's ranting and there are times when he does actually sound quite mad.  It dismayed me that a man such as he could wield the powerful influence he does over people.  No wonder those in this enclosed environment are misled into believing the heresy which is preached.

I hope more and more people look outside at the broader picture and don't end their days accepting this doctrine and allowing it to continue undisputed.  It is heretic.

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 You know what's funny, in the entire Melbourne Assembly there is only two people that would say such evil of brothers and sisters. Rachel and Kelly. How about you listen to Fay's poem and pray more. If you can't be bothered being a christian then LEAVE. Evil in the lump must leave, so how about you rustle up the courage and pray, and maybe the joy of the lord will show on your face. I cant understand why you would do such a thing as your comment above, I will be having a word to Daryl. People like you need to leave

If you're that fast to identify me, why don't you identify yourself? It's people like you who make the place unbearable.
Anyway, what should I pray about? That everyone becomes less ignorant and arrogant? Not likely. Not even prayer could fix that!

Also, to add to my initial post, what a pain the Saturday rally was! What a stupid pointless waste of a day. A perfectly good day was wasted sitting indoors listening to random people drone on about their "miraculous" testimonies, and old men monotonously "preaching" their dogma.

I would like to take this opportunity again to encourage others to add their gripes and complaints.

And I would encourage the Guest who attacked me to not be such a coward, and to look deep down inside yourself, and post something you don't like about the "church".

Semi-Anonymous.
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 You know what's funny, in the entire Melbourne Assembly there is only two people that would say such evil of brothers and sisters. Rachel and Kelly. How about you listen to Fay's poem and pray more. If you can't be bothered being a christian then LEAVE. Evil in the lump must leave, so how about you rustle up the courage and pray, and maybe the joy of the lord will show on your face. I cant understand why you would do such a thing as your comment above, I will be having a word to Daryl. People like you need to leave

If you're that fast to identify me, why don't you identify yourself? It's people like you who make the place unbearable.
Anyway, what should I pray about? That everyone becomes less ignorant and arrogant? Not likely. Not even prayer could fix that!

Also, to add to my initial post, what a pain the Saturday rally was! What a stupid pointless waste of a day. A perfectly good day was wasted sitting indoors listening to random people drone on about their "miraculous" testimonies, and old men monotonously "preaching" their dogma.

I would like to take this opportunity again to encourage others to add their gripes and complaints.

And I would encourage the Guest who attacked me to not be such a coward, and to look deep down inside yourself, and post something you don't like about the "church".

Semi-Anonymous.

This discussion is indicative of most (if not all) of the southern states (Tasmania - Victoria - South Australia) within the RF. I know all of the senior (so called) pastors in these assemblies and their approach to ministry is almost completely physical.

They are in the process of suffocating the Spirit that is within them and the examples listed are simply manifestations of that.

I could be here all day speaking of faults with these churches (the same could be said of all churches) The fact that they are imperfect is a given. We are after all HUMANS!

The problem is that the striving for position creates a religious pecking order in the RF where judgement and condemnation is the sole driving force that is manifested rather than the grace of God.

If the candle is not already lost (or rather gone out) from the Southern states RF churches, it is a very dim light that eminates indeed.

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Good morning, Jingles.

Given that the RF isn't part of the wider Christian Church, it can't lay claim to being led by God's Spirit. Under such circumstances the best that it can hope to be is a relatively benign group of people meeting together for social interaction. Unfortunately, however, even this isn't likely to be the case given that the RF is socially dysfunctional; such seems to be part-and-parcel of Longfield's legacy to sectarianism in Australia.

Very sad.

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Good morning, Jingles.

Given that the RF isn't part of the wider Christian Church, it can't lay claim to being led by God's Spirit. Under such circumstances the best that it can hope to be is a relatively benign group of people meeting together for social interaction. Unfortunately, however, even this isn't likely to be the case given that the RF is socially dysfunctional; such seems to be part-and-parcel of Longfield's legacy to sectarianism in Australia.

Very sad.

Ian



What do you class as "wider Christian church"?


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Jingles,

Those who promote Jesus' teaching, i.e. the biblical Gospel. The RF doesn't, preferring instead what Paul describes as "another Gospel", ergo ...

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Jingles,

Those who promote Jesus' teaching, i.e. the biblical Gospel. The RF doesn't, preferring instead what Paul describes as "another Gospel", ergo ...

Ian



Or more properly any church that belongs to the national council of churches in australia, because if it isnt sanctioned by those who believe they own the word of god, then it doesnt exist in this twit's eyes.
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The problem is that the striving for position creates a religious pecking order in the RF where judgement and condemnation is the sole driving force that is manifested rather than the grace of God.

Sad to say that this type of behaviour happens in churches, businesses, soccer clubs, everywhere. As a young person I used to really believe that a revelation of god's love in a person would show them that this is not god's way. I used to pray my little heart out that it would stop in revival, and everywhere else. But it won't. The feeling of power is clearly way too heady, even in those who say they love god.

Humans suck, and they won't change. God is clearly dead as a dodo, if he was ever there at all.
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Or more properly any church that belongs to the national council of churches in australia, because if it isnt sanctioned by those who believe they own the word of god, then it doesnt exist in this twit's eyes. Well, that was a particularly 'stoopid' thing to say, even by Revivalist standards. I happen to fellowship with a local church that isn't represented by the NCC, so your silly assumptions aside, perhaps it would be wiser for you to engage your mind before you do your fingers? Second, it isn't a case of 'owning' the Word of God but of understanding it sufficiently so as to apply it to one's life adequately. I do, you don't, hence your general ignorance of scriptural teaching has led to your current state of spiritual confusion.

Goose.

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You know what also pisses me off about this stupid "church"?
They are constantly at the catholics throats about this and that, tradition and false teaching, but the RF is no better themselves!

They have their stupid traditions of standing up for a single hymn, and clapping on the last verse. God forbid people clap in the wrong place!

And all the other stupid regulations they impose which I cant think of right now.

Hypocrites and pharisees.

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Word of God but of understanding it sufficiently so as to apply it to one's life adequately. I do, you don't, hence your general ignorance of scriptural teaching has led to your current state of spiritual confusion.


You apply the word of god to your life. What a joke.



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Guest,

You apply the word of god to your life. What a joke.

Where's the 'punchline'?

You are the smallest man I ever had the misfortune to meet thomason, in every sense of the word that matters.

We've met have we? Well, I hope you'll forgive me for doubting your assertion. Given that you clearly lack either the confidence or the moral courage to place your name to your comments, please don't be too offended to learn that I shan't lose a moment's sleep over them. "Empty vessels; plenty of noise", and so forth.

When you've finished with the childish ad hom nonsense, perhaps you'll take a crack at something a wee bit more substantive? I'm something of an optimist, you see, so I live in hope.

Goose.

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 Clapping on the last verse... oh classic. The memories huh?

Gawsh, for some people these aren't memories, but are just some of the same old stuff that happened again on the weekend. Eek. Revival meetings. The torture you have when you don't know you're getting tortured.

Funny thread. Someone's dobbing to Daryl. lol, you should never really ever fear anyone called 'Daryl'. It's funny thinking about adults dibber dobbing on each other. The girls in my grade six class do that, but they'll grow out of it... the 'normal' ones will. I love that someone's putting into words the 'boredom' that they actually endure, and the cringey stuff Revivalists think but don't say.

Someone's ragging on Ian, again. Maybe it's someone new and interesting! Probably, it's one of the old and boring usual suspects. Wouldn't be right if someone wasn't getting all uppity.
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Good morning, Pete.

Someone's ragging on Ian, again. Maybe it's someone new and interesting! Probably, it's one of the old and boring usual suspects. Wouldn't be right if someone wasn't getting all uppity.

'Yep', just more of the "same 'ol, same 'ol". One of the benefits that derive from the Modgod giving me demigod (i.e. 'moderator') status, is that I can see "who is who in the zoo". Interesting, to be sure.

Anyway, you've gotta love Revivalists and those former members who remain Revivalists in everything but name. Given that they're opinionated, contrary and ignorant, they tend towards being full of σκατά but seem to be altogether lacking when it comes to addressing issues of substance and/or relevance. Noting this, I must confess that I do enjoy playing with 'em, here. And, of course, a goodly number eventually see the error of their ways and convert to Christianity, so in all things I'm content.

Blessings, dude.

Ian

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Ian you do arrogant **** better than the rest of us put together, which really amounts to the same thing as revivalist.

And yes you think you know all and see all, everything but your own stupidity.

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Good morning, Guest.

Ian you do arrogant **** better than the rest of us put together, which really amounts to the same thing as revivalist.

Actually, 'no', it doesn't. From my perspective, arrogance isn't the principle character flaw among Revivalists, willful ignorance is. Consequently, I think the quip attributed to Mohammed Ali sums things up rather well, "being arrogant is only a problem if you can't back it up".

And yes you think you know all and see all, everything but your own stupidity.

Nah, I don't lay claim to omnipotence or omniscience at all. But I do know what I know, and more importantly, what I don't know. This distinguishes me from the average Revivalist who doesn't know that s/he doesn't know, what s/he doesn't know.

In closing if I'm half as 'stupid' as you claim, then it should be an easy matter for you to disprove my theological positions regarding your beliefs, from Scripture.

Fill your boots, and knock yourself out.

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This discussion is indicative of most (if not all) of the southern states (Tasmania - Victoria - South Australia) within the RF. I know all of the senior (so called) pastors in these assemblies and their approach to ministry is almost completely physical.

They are in the process of suffocating the Spirit that is within them and the examples listed are simply manifestations of that.

I could be here all day speaking of faults with these churches (the same could be said of all churches) The fact that they are imperfect is a given. We are after all HUMANS!

The problem is that the striving for position creates a religious pecking order in the RF where judgement and condemnation is the sole driving force that is manifested rather than the grace of God.

If the candle is not already lost (or rather gone out) from the Southern states RF churches, it is a very dim light that eminates indeed.

mj


(Message edited by Mr_Jingles On 20/10/2010 4:12 PM)

Hi Jingles,


Not just the southern states, I'm sure wherever RF is you'll find similar thinking - it's endemic.  It might be more pronounced in Melbourne (still running to tell the pastor etc)  because Daryl runs the show.  I think  he's also in charge of Tasmania.   Melbourne appears to be a sort of retirement centre for aging pastors who don't want to step down and lose their title.  Plenty of old guard back up there, nodding agreement to keep in with the central character, never too old even to learn new tricks from the indomitable Daryl.

The eastern states for some time now 'seem' to have become more liberal, however there were some trouble spots causing the council
consternation but a little bit of reshuffling appeared to do the trick.  The west I believe is hardline and proud of it, even more so than than the head state of South Australia.  There's a quiet but interesting group up Darwin way where the ladies of the flock have to wear calf length or longer skirts (no jeans or the like) and hair has to be worn long.  No short cuts allowed for the ladies and long grey heads on the older ladies is commonplace. 

Regarding suffocating the Spirit, well they actually suffocate the counsel of the person of the Holy Spirit.  In John 15 : 26 NIV Jesus says "When the Counselor comes, whom I will send from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me."   Often Jesus is relegated to a back seat. The tongues fixation of Revivalism and the proving that having tongues is a must for salvation takes over.   Some Revivalists have testified that they didn't believe until they received tongues, children want to speak in tongues just like their parent/s. 

The Holy Spirit leading people into a personal relationship with Jesus, knowing Jesus whom we follow, who is love, who is our teacher, example, model, who is to be glorified in us, is rather dimmed in Revival Churches.  I can recall whole talks Jesus name has never entered in. 

God bless.

Earthen V

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Ian, I think you're cool, and intelligent! Why are there so many Revivalist 'stalkers' on these pages? Is this site not meant to be for people/families who have been affected by their unscriptural and cultic teaching? I know it's not to do with this post, but I wanted to make this comment.

Please keep up the good work Ian, you do a great job.

'If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you.' 1Peter 4:14.
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Good morning, Guest.

Ian, I think you're cool, and intelligent! Why are there so many Revivalist 'stalkers' on these pages? Is this site not meant to be for people/families who have been affected by their unscriptural and cultic teaching? I know it's not to do with this post, but I wanted to make this comment.

Thanks for the affirmation, and I agree. I am both cool and intelligent! But to be serious for a micron, I think one reason for the continuing presence of said 'stalkers' has to do with the fact that this site does Revivalism a great deal of damage. Consequently, some will try to 'pooh pooh' the information and/or the personalities that cause them the most harm. Unregenerate human nature at work, sadly.

Please keep up the good work Ian, you do a great job.

Thank you, I will certainly try. Please pray for those who remain ignorant within Revivalism, as my experience has been that prayer works wonders in preparing the heart to receive the truth.

Blessings,

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Dear guest, if all you're interested in doing is swearing at Ian, then we're not interested in reading your comments. There are 'other' forums for that.
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really, got an address for that you would like to share?
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Modster,

Clearly I missed the latest rant against me, so what's the gripe this time around? Feel free to PM or email me, as you prefer.

Blessings,

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To Guest,

I invited you to 'step-up' and demonstrate that there is more to you than simply hot air and invective. So what's it going to be? Can you address the issues that this site exists to discuss? Or are you the sort of individual who lacks the moral fibre and personal capacity to engage in anything but ad hominem attack?

Over to you, bud.

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Please keep up the good work Ian, you do a great job.

Thank you, I will certainly try. Please pray for those who remain ignorant within Revivalism, as my experience has been that prayer works wonders in preparing the heart to receive the truth.

Blessings,

Ian



Hi Ian,

I wholeheartedly ditto Guest's words.  The information you impart to those open and willing to look and learn is invaluable. Thanks for so generously sharing your knowledge with this forum. I have the highest regard for the well trained teachers I am now in contact with.

The unskilled who take upon themselves the role of teacher (as with the authoritarian Longfield and his legacy) will invariably leave (indeed has left) a trail of wreckage. 

Yes, I do and, will continue, to pray for those caught up in Revivalism and yes my own experience is that prayer does work wonders in preparing the heart to receive the truth.  Never a truer word said. 

MORE THINGS ARE WROUGHT BY PRAYER THAN THIS WORLD DREAMS OF. 

An old American radio programme "The Hour of St Francis" hosted by the Franciscans began and ended with the above motto.  Good words to remember.

God Bless

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Thanks, Epi.

Let's wait and see if either of the two nay-sayers has anything worthwhile to contribute towards the advancing of the discussions that appear on this site.

I have my doubts

Blessings,

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Thanks, Epi.

Let's wait and see if either of the two nay-sayers has anything worthwhile to contribute towards the advancing of the discussions that appear on this site.

I have my doubts

Blessings,

Ian


Poor, poor, unsecure little Ian. Did you already asked yourself, why you really are doing this job here?
I am sure you know it, but what you are presenting isn't the truth about yourself, you are hiding yourself behind your role as a saviour of people, who are not committed to the Lord, but to their own belly. You play your role very well, poor, poor, unsecure little Ian.
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I think you'll find that's 'insecure' not unsecure......
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INSECURE! Who's the one that's INSECURE?  Why not contribute something worthwhile here instead of presenting what a twitt YOU are.
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 OMG

That Tony Barton fella would be a mean mean drunk.
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People like 'guest' (or most probably, Tony... or actually more likely, the chart-spindoctor) anyway, they and  their Revival ilk who detest Ian so much inspired me to create a new animation. Introducing a new character... Lukey Barton. This is what I imagine their lairs to be like.

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INSECURE! Who's the one that's INSECURE?  Why not contribute something worthwhile here instead of presenting what a twitt YOU are.

Ha, ha, ha, ha ... relax dude
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Pete,

Ha, ha, ha, ha!

Blessings, my friend.

Ian

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INSECURE! Who's the one that's INSECURE?  Why not contribute something worthwhile here instead of presenting what a twitt YOU are.

Are you one of the bodyguards of Master Ian?
Is it not a little bit poor, to speak for others than for yourself? Do you have your own opinion? Are you so bitter because others have a better live than u. Or others are more sure about salvation than u? Insecure? Sorry for my english:)

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Are you one of the bodyguards of Master Ian?

Nope, he doesn’t need one.

 

Is it not a little bit poor, to speak for others than for yourself? Do you have your own opinion?

At least I’m not self opinionated like some Revivalist here..

 

Are you so bitter because others have a better live than u.

Not bitter, just fearful for poor souls like you that is deceived and won’t listen to the truth.

 

Or others are more sure about salvation than u? Insecure? Sorry for my english:)

I don’t need reassurance about my salvation; I now know and follow the true gospel.

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The true gosple you mention is your own made gosple, isn't it...


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Hey, I'm the bodyguard for Ian - lol. Watch the video I made, foreign Revivalist 'guest' dude. Sheesh... a little recognition, eh?

You're not giving your Lloydo Doctrino much credibility with your name calling and "I know you are but what am I" replies. Tell us more about your 'true' gospel. Please. Do tell. But please can you continue your master wit in another thread, 'cause the topic of this particular one is for Revivalists to admit and vent about the incredibly annoying rituals and expectations they have to endure during meetings and life.
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Take responsibility for your own life. but there is always somebody, who you can blame...isnt' it
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Personally,

I blame Colonel Sanders for all my shortcomings. If it weren't for him, his delightful chickens, and his damned secret herbs and spices I'd probably be leaner and fitter and more able to physically and mentally take on the challenges life throws at me. Even so, I say... "Bring 'em on". "Make my day", and "come get some". The latter of which is of course is a quote taken from the ripping yarn, Evil Dead III: The Army of Darkness. I highly recommend it for its funny quips, and stop motion special effects. Don't tell 'pastor' though.
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The true gosple you mention is your own made gosple, isn't it...



Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die.

 

Longfield said, “……you must speak in tongues to be saved”

 

Which is the ‘Gospel’ that you follow?


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I dont understand, why does the intial person in this thread just leave the church, rather then see things wrong and stay...
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People like 'guest' (or most probably, Tony... or actually more likely, the chart-spindoctor) anyway, they and  their Revival ilk who detest Ian so much inspired me to create a new animation. Introducing a new character... Lukey Barton. This is what I imagine their lairs to be like.


That was very very funny lol

i will have to download the software to make some for myself.

this tony barton or luke barton bloke is he GRF, CAI RCI or TRF?

sounds like a peice of work from the video.

mj
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Hi mj

Lukey Barton is an amalgamation of some long time trolls that have haunted ALL rooms of this website and have devoted much of their writing telling us how much they hate Ian, and simply did NOT know when to stop telling us that weary fact. Lukey, in particular (Ex-RCI stock) was a bit more wackier than most and even set up two or three forums of his own that were dedicated to 'Ian'.

If 'he' used the software that I have, I can't see him making something much different to the animation I made - lol. I thought the severed limbs strewn about the lair's floor were an intresting effect. Lukey Barton the mad psychotic self-title nemesis of Ian in a world of his own, sharpening his blades... bru ha ha.

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Thanks for the tip. judging from your motto at the bottom of your posts I have to ask. Do you believe tongues to be fake?

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Hey there, mein Gast.

Are you one of the bodyguards of Master Ian?Is it not a little bit poor, to speak for others than for yourself? Do you have your own opinion? Are you so bitter because others have a better live than u. Or others are more sure about salvation than u? Insecure? Sorry for my english:)

First things first, as 'Moth-and-Rust' pointed out to you earlier he's my Bodyguard. So be afraid ... be very afraid! (I sure am) Second, I'm certain the other correspondent does have opinion(s) all of his/her own. S/he must, given that s/he's not in the CAI and consequently is perfectly free to be exercising his/her own brain. Third, I think you'd be surprised just how 'Rock'-sure (there's a pun involved; mull it over) some of us are about our eternities. Being Christians, our shared confidence isn't dependent upon being able to free-vocalise; it's based squarely on what God achieved for us in Christ almost 2000 years ago.

Finally, there's absolutely no need for you to be apologising for English not being your primary tongue. What you should be apologising for; however, is the precedence given to the tongue that you mistakenly believe is primary!

Repent, dude.

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Very amusing Peter. But my head should have been on the animation when it was revving up the chainsaw. And I DO know where to find Ian :) Its probably a good thing for all of us I have a much better control on my temper than I used to. So far.

You people just dont get it do you? None of them are great, not the Lloyds, not the Noels, not the Kuhlmans and not the Ians. They represent eveything Jesus came here to change. Ian wants you to think the only problem with revival was faulty theology. The other problem is the unmitigated arrogaance of these moronic men who are not happy unless they are in charge of something or someone, or can dispense their superior advice to the idiotic masses they sneer at. No different from you average policitian.

You think any of these men care about you individually? not unless you have your head stuck firmly up their bottom or swoon at their superior knowledge and supposed spiritual superiority in a kind of Stepford like way. "Oh Ian/Lloyd/John/Noel you are the master", and they are, but only of manipulation. 

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Sorry, girlie.

As usual, you've got a hold of the wrong end of the stick. I don't think the only problem with Revivalism is faulty theology, but I do believe every other problem these sects manifest derives from the same.

Nice of you to go lumping me in that august group again smiley9

Goose.

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Sorry, girlie.

As usual, you've got a hold of the wrong end of the stick. I don't think the only problem with Revivalism is faulty theology, but I do believe every other problem these sects manifest derives from the same.

Nice of you to go lumping me in that august group again smiley9

Goose.

Ian


Well Ian you know all about the firm grasp on the stick.

And as far as the august group - credit where it's due.
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