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Here you go guys, a whole new thread dedicated to the two of you.
Enjoy.      
"Faith is not about everything turning out OK; Faith is about being OK no matter how things turn out."
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 exuberance,


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exuberance ??

Exuberant ?? Yep !! Wait until you have heard me play from behind a drum kit. Have been out of it for few years and I found out very recently that I can still play 5 and 6 stroke rolls and fiery triplets and pounding para-diddles around the full kit.

... and I still love the instrument even when I teach young kids to play...

Eric

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We shall see, self congratulating paternalistic empty vessel. You really are a little 'burst of sunshine and happiness', aren't you? Is it the bitterness that feeds your nasty ol' meanstreak, or is this simply your normal behaviour? I'm wagering on the latter being the case, myself.
 

Normal is an interesting word Ian. You really are totally sucked in by the whole game aren't you? That's fine, most people are. But just because things are a certain way, that doesn't necessarily make them right.  Also, like most people you will believe whatever you want to believe, and the actual facts won't get in the way.

You don't seem to understand that I really don't care what people think of me. I'm simply not interested.

I imagine at some point my behaviour would have been considered a lot more "normal" than it is these days. That was before the "unfortunate incidents" you refer to finally forced me to grow up and stop looking at the world through the eyes of a child like I used to. After living my life for others, ignoring my own needs and always trying to believe the best of every person, I found out EXACTLY how far that kind of attitude gets one in the scheme of things.

It doesn't matter to most people how many good things one does in this life, how faithful a friend, how kind one is, how much one loves or cares, you do one thing people disapprove of and all the good things cease to exist. All others things aside, I am glad that I would never be that shallow. But most people are that shallow. They are not what I thought at all, not kind, or nice, or forgiving, or selfless, or honest. None of the things I spent 45 years of my life believing. As those christians who I thought had previously been my friends continued to push me towards suicide EVEN AFTER they knew I had tried to take my own life, I realised that things were not what I thought they had been at all.

It never even occurred to me lie about what happened. If I had been the person that others try to paint me as, I would have. I have had to deal with my obsession with the truth, but there are certain truths I will never come to terms with. The corruption that is shot through most organisations, including churches, being one of them.

It isnt bitterness ian, it is the realisation, rather late in life, that most people are crap. Frankly, I don't think I will ever fully recover from the shock of finding that out.

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Tracey,

Your perception doesn't necessarily equal reality. If 99 people say "it's raining", but one person adamantly declares, "no it's not!", then chances are it's not the single person standing outside getting wringing wet who has got a firm grasp of what's 'real'.

Goose.

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Tracey,

Your perception doesn't necessarily equal reality. If 99 people say "it's raining", but one person adamantly declares, "no it's not!", then chances are it's not the single person standing outside getting wringing wet who has got a firm grasp of what's 'real'.

Goose.

Ian


Same could be said for anyone. Doesn't mean the one is wrong either.
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Don’t you just love 'copy and pasting'?

 

the nasty pit of horrors that is your soul.

 

extensive experience of penises

 

ignorant

 

typical sycophant

 

'smarter' than you

 

'calling you to heel'

 

self congratulating paternalistic empty vessel

 

you suffer from an inferiority complex

 

a little 'burst of sunshine and happiness

 

'nasty ol' meanstreak

 

Sour grapes

 

you really are such a dick

 

Conclusively proven my lily white ass

 

unashamed (major) asshole

 

just a little yes man

 

Ya think sunshine?

 

angry little 'raincloud'

 

heartless asshole

 

Nice little yes man

 

dick waving

 

arguments

 

crawling up your bottom

 

mancrush

 

totally sucked in

 

Goose.

 

I believe in Christianity as I believe the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C.S.Lewis.
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Don’t you just love 'copy and pasting'?

 

the nasty pit of horrors that is your soul.

 

extensive experience of penises

 

ignorant

 

typical sycophant

 

'smarter' than you

 

'calling you to heel'

 

self congratulating paternalistic empty vessel

 

you suffer from an inferiority complex

 

a little 'burst of sunshine and happiness

 

'nasty ol' meanstreak

 

Sour grapes

 

you really are such a dick

 

Conclusively proven my lily white ass

 

unashamed (major) asshole

 

just a little yes man

 

Ya think sunshine?

 

angry little 'raincloud'

 

heartless asshole

 

Nice little yes man

 

dick waving

 

arguments

 

crawling up your bottom

 

mancrush

 

totally sucked in

 

Goose.

 


Too much leisure time biblianut?
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Too much leisure time biblianut?

 

Not really. It didn’t take very long from just two or three of your posts to achieve that much.

I believe in Christianity as I believe the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C.S.Lewis.
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That'll probably do. Thanks Galien.

Ladies and Gentlemen, please don't feed the trolls.

Locking and blocking.

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 Ian,it is very brave of you to admit that you condone blasphemy and porn,Moth its not me that you have to explain it to, God is the judge,any way Ian what else are you hiding up your sleeve,have you studied voodoo,black magic,witchcraft how open minded are you?
Ian dont you have mirrors in your home?


Didn't you know whoever you are that Ian is practically perfect in every way? If you ever doubt that, just ask Eric.

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Eric you are even more naive than I am. That is a particular sadness all of its own.


And don't we know all about you Galien.

Fruitloop



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Eric you are even more naive than I am. That is a particular sadness all of its own.


Tracey take a hike and stop being a serial pest and a childish wimp..

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Hi, Eric.

Tracey take a hike and stop being a serial pest and a childish wimp. You'd stand a better chance asking the stars not to twinkle, the rain not to fall, and birds not to fly. Tracey's made her mind up that she knows "what's what"; consequently, she's incapable of processing any information that contradicts her views; it just won't happen. When you factor in her fixation with me, you shouldn't be surprised that we are where we are.

If you're sufficiently interested, pick up a copy of the DSM IV(TR), and check out the psychopathologies for the various conditions listed in Clusters B & C.

Blessings,

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If you're sufficiently interested, pick up a copy of the DSM IV(TR), and check out the psychopathologies for the various conditions listed in Clusters B & C.

Blessings,

Ian



Hmmm so now you are a psychotherapist too Ian, gee you must be busy. I wonder just how narcissistic it is though to believe someone has a fixation on you when they don't. Sounds more like something a revival pastor would think :)

What it IS about is letting you power hungry fucktards who abuse people in the name of god know that no matter how hard you try to silence us, you never will. Never.
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Tracey,

Hmmm so now you are a psychotherapist too Ian, gee you must be busy. I seem to recall you once stating that the only thing that makes one an 'expert' is the ability to read books. Well, I can read. I wonder just how narcissistic it is though to believe someone has a fixation on you when they don't. The definition of 'fixated' is, as follows: "to acquire an obsessive attachment to someone or something." If you don't believe this definition quantifies your behaviour towards me, then I'd point you to another word, 'delusion': "an erroneous belief that is held in the face of evidence to the contrary; a fixed belief that is either false, fanciful, or derived from deception." Sounds more like something a revival pastor would think :) Really? I suggest that you acquire for yourself a copy of the DSM IV(TR), and engage in a little '(en)light(ening)' reading, then. Consider it a brief foray into CBT.

What it IS about is letting you power hungry fucktards who abuse people in the name of god know that no matter how hard you try to silence us, you never will. Never. Ha, ha, ha. I reckon you wouldn't skip a beat talking through wet cement, with a mouth full of marbles, in a vacuum.

Goose.

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If you're sufficiently interested, pick up a copy of the DSM IV(TR), and check out the psychopathologies for the various conditions listed in Clusters B & C.

Blessings,

Ian



Hmmm so now you are a psychotherapist too Ian, gee you must be busy. I wonder just how narcissistic it is though to believe someone has a fixation on you when they don't. Sounds more like something a revival pastor would think :)

What it IS about is letting you power hungry fucktards who abuse people in the name of god know that no matter how hard you try to silence us, you never will. Never.

galien give it a rest. your completely fixated with didaktikon and all denying it does is make you look even more stupid.
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If you're sufficiently interested, pick up a copy of the DSM IV(TR), and check out the psychopathologies for the various conditions listed in Clusters B & C.

Blessings,

Ian



Hmmm so now you are a psychotherapist too Ian, gee you must be busy. I wonder just how narcissistic it is though to believe someone has a fixation on you when they don't. Sounds more like something a revival pastor would think :)

What it IS about is letting you power hungry fucktards who abuse people in the name of god know that no matter how hard you try to silence us, you never will. Never.

Q. How is the way you abuse people any different?
A. It isn't.
Q. Who do you think is interested in hearing you whinge about Ian all the time?
A. Not me.
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Honey I dont hold a candle to you when it comes to verbal diarrhoea. Say what you like, believe what you like, doesn't make it true.

And to the person who said I look stupid, do you honestly think I care???? You sit there on your hands while he says and does whatever he likes and very rarely does one of you sad little yes people have the balls to challenge him. And I am the one that looks stupid? He plays you all like puppets, just like the revival pastors used to do, and just like then, you let him. Silly, silly sheeple.

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Tracey,

Honey I dont hold a candle to you when it comes to verbal diarrhoea. Say what you like, believe what you like, doesn't make it true. Of course, the very same statement applies to you, doesn't it? The principle difference being, however, that I've established my case.

And to the person who said I look stupid, do you honestly think I care???? Actually, I think you do care. You seemed to care a great deal when I pointed out, for all those months, that you weren't a Christian. You were greatly offended; considerably put out, and went to extended pains to declare that my assessments of you were were wrong, that I didn't know what I was talking about. Lo and behold, however, you eventually admitted to yourself, and then to us, that you weren't Christian after all; that you didn't believe after all. You finally accepted what I knew all along, and that grates you terribly, doesn't it?

You sit there on your hands while he says and does whatever he likes and very rarely does one of you sad little yes people have the balls to challenge him. It seems that 'what I say', more often than not, rings true. It seems that 'what I do', more often than not, is conclusively establish the soundness of my various theological propositions. It seems that you've been far, far less successful by comparison. And given your psychopathology, I know that this fact grates you terribly, too. And so, it seems that the only people who apparently believe as you do about me, are: (1) the few who've taken offense to me pointing out that they, like you, have been holding onto the wrong end of the stick. And, (2) the handful of Revivalists who continue to try and sell their 'pups' here, but who have found me to be a bothersome and altogether inconvenient Jeremiad, one who keeps on getting in their way.

Rhetorical as it may well be, pointless as it may well be, I'll ask of you the same questions that I've put to you so many times in the past. Who have you helped to leave 'Revival', Tracey? Who have you helped to make sense of their 'Revival' experience, so they can get on with living full and fulfilled lives? What do you do here other than continuously gripe about me? You are fixated with me, Ms Santarelli, and clearly I'm not the only person who has noticed it. And I am the one that looks stupid? Apparently, 'yes'. He plays you all like puppets, just like the revival pastors used to do, and just like then, you let him. Ah, yes. The same tired old, 'Ian is just like a Revivalist pastor' charge that you trot out every now and then. Yet, where's the control? This is simply an internet forum, after all, and not the 'real world'. Whose lives have I so entwined myself into, as to make them my 'puppets', doing my personal bidding? What is the 'power' that I supposedly wield? Over a handful of people on an altogether obscure internet forum?! How am I so like a Revivalist pastor when I don't tell people who they may spend their time with? When I don't tell them what jobs they may have? When I don't tell them which church they must attend? And strangest of all, how am I like a Revivalist pastor when I do tell people to challenge me to prove that what I say about Scripture is true?! You must have met some very different Revivalist pastors to the score or so that I'm personally familiar with!

Silly, silly sheeple. 'No'. Just a silly, silly goat who kidded herself into thinking she was a sheep, once.

To close, have you ever stopped to consider why so many people have taken you task concerning your baseless accusations about me? It's because I've helped them over the years. And you?

"Listening to a foolish person talk is like traveling with a heavy load on your back, but it is a pleasure to hear what intelligent people have to say. The assembly will be eager to hear from an intelligent person and will take his opinion seriously." Sirach 21:16, 17.

Goose.

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eeew guys, go easy on the bromance. looks like you are heading towards a "mens night"
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Guest,

eeew guys, go easy on the bromance. Hmmm ... jealous? looks like you are heading towards a "mens night". To be honest, I wouldn't know. Could you share from your extensive personal experience of such things so I can make an informed assessment, one way or another?

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Guest,

eeew guys, go easy on the bromance. Hmmm ... jealous? looks like you are heading towards a "mens night". To be honest, I wouldn't know. Could you share from your extensive personal experience of such things so I can make an informed assessment, one way or another?

Ian

Jealous of what, exactly? Sad little asslickers? I think not. Never been to a men's night, but I'm assuming there are only men there and asslicking almost certainly occurs, be it literally or figuratively.
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Guest,

Never been to a men's night ... I see. So yours was simply another ignorant comment, made by simply another ignorant malcontent? Understood. And you're not taken seriously here, 'why', again?

Goose.

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Guest,

Never been to a men's night ... I see. So yours was simply another ignorant comment, made by simply another ignorant malcontent? Understood. And you're not taken seriously here, 'why', again?

Goose.

Ian


Like I could care less if you boring little people take me seriously. Yeah yeah I know everyone who doesnt lick your ass is ignorant. We know Ian. Yawn.
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Guest,

Like I could care less if you boring little people take me seriously. I see. So if you don't expect to be taken seriously, then why come here at all? Is it simply a craving to make 'noise'?

Goose.

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 Looks like Torben and Ian are making friends. Maybe they should get together for a massage. I don't know either of them, but they both seem quite convinced that they are always correct. No one else will ever know better.
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a) People who have been disappointed or hurt by religious organisations like GRC, RCI & CAI find their way to this site.

b) The Mods and others on this site pull up alongside in their caddy offering support and convince people that many of their problems lie in the Acts 2:38 doctrine of these groups. and as a result throw the Revival Fellowship in the mix.

c) They then promote orthodox teaching (or should I say Lukewarm Christianity) as the answer to their woes. Thus prostituting these disappointed and let down Christians to promote the doctrines of the mother of harlots and her fellow harlot orthodox groups like baptists, methodist and C of E etc.

PUT PLAINLY THEY ARE EXPLOITING THESE PEOPLE TO FURTHER THEIR FALSE DOCTRINES, WOLVES PREYING ON WOUNDED SHEEP. EXACLY AS THE LORD SAID IT WOULD BE LIKE IN THESE LAST DAYS.

Really Tony, I thought the problem was more that you guys think the problem stops with revival doctrine in the first place. At no point does anyone want to address the whole problem with organisational and political bullshit in the first place. Ian et al just want to duckshove everyone who leaves revival into ANOTHER organisation who can tell them how to live instead of them working it out for themselves. Or even better, working out why they need to be perpetual children with spiritual "parents" who do their thinking for them.

This is what more of you reading this should be doing rather than coming here to air your laundry. Only then would you find real peace.

Mate, it isnt up to you or Ian to be telling other people what they should be doing or how they can find real peace. If you guys ever get your collective heads out of your asses, I will be more suprised than anyone. Not happy unless you are telling everyone else how it SHOULD be done, you are no better than Ian. Ego central.



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Reply to Didaktikon 

In one scene Alice had chastised the Cheshire Cat for importing his own meaning into a certain word, whereupon the Cat indignantly replied, "this word means what I want it to mean, nothing more and nothing less!" Try reflecting on the connotation, and the implications.

I LOVE the chesire cat. Dude had BALLS :)

 But you're the only one who has ever suggested that biblical interpretation is based on an uncontrolled, thoroughly subjective and allegorical reading of Scripture.

No he isn't, and he's right :)


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Hello, Tracey.

But you're the only one who has ever suggested to me [I note that you intentionally edited out this qualifier when you 'quoted' me in your reply, Ms Santarelli] that biblical interpretation is based on an uncontrolled, thoroughly subjective and allegorical reading of Scripture. No he isn't, and he's right :)

You wouldn't know. A nice example of you dishonestly handling text, above, by the way.

I do wonder that in your response to Tony a few minutes ago, you indicated that he was wrong. But now you seem to be suggesting he is right. So which is it?

Goose.

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Hello, Guest.

Looks like Torben and Ian are making friends ... I don't know either of them, but they both seem quite convinced that they are always correct. If you believe differently, then try proving me wrong. No one else will ever know better. Not if they approach the matter as you have.

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Re:The Galien (ladies first) and Ian Mutual Admiration Site

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Hello, Tracey.

But you're the only one who has ever suggested to me [I note that you intentionally edited out this qualifier when you 'quoted' me in your reply, Ms Santarelli] that biblical interpretation is based on an uncontrolled, thoroughly subjective and allegorical reading of Scripture. No he isn't, and he's right :)

You wouldn't know. A nice example of you dishonestly handling text, above, by the way.

I do wonder that in your response to Tony a few minutes ago, you indicated that he was wrong. But now you seem to be suggesting he is right. So which is it?

Ian you can be so obtuse at times. It is right that the reading of scripture is subjective, no matter how long you and your ilk have laboured away to make it part of academia. Everyone that reads it will read what they want into it. You can't control everyone :) And Tony is as wrong as every other control freak who thinks he is god's right hand man.

There now, that wasn't so hard to understand was it?
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Re:The Galien (ladies first) and Ian Mutual Admiration Site

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Ian you can be so obtuse at times. It is right that the reading of scripture is subjective, no matter how long you and your ilk have laboured away to make it part of academia. Baloney, academia gave us the Holy Scripture and some notable academics such as William Tyndale were burnt at the stake by the command of the King of England for it.

And? Still doesnt explain why so many theologians and other longterm christians are STILL ego driven assholes after decades of the so called renewing of their minds.

 Everyone that reads it will read what they want into it.  I hope that you are not accusing Ian of eisegesis.. now now you are a glutton for punishment !! I dare you to try, if you can ??

The only things I ever accuse ian of are being an asshole and a control freak. Clearly though your brand of christianity and his seem to think those things are in keeping with the mind of christ.

You can't control everyone :) Ian has never even once in the last decade and a half since I have know him has tried or even attempted to control anyone .. Correct anyone ?? yes !! every time !! but control ?? I pronounce 'not guilty' 

Ian knows very well how he controls people, exactly the same way EVERY religion does. And I don't ever recall requesting correction, not that ian needs an invitation for that. He thinks its his special caliling from god. Hehe.

And Tony is as wrong as every other control freak who thinks he is god's right hand man. Tony needs to learn how to control himself first.

Tony is like every other self important church leader, he is right in his own mind and that is all that matters.

There now, that wasn't so hard to understand was it? No it wasn't !!

Then explain it to your silly mate.





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Re:The Galien (ladies first) and Ian Mutual Admiration Site

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Tracey,

Time to feed your fixation with me a little more :)

Ian you can be so obtuse at times. It is right that the reading of scripture is subjective, no matter how long you and your ilk have laboured away to make it part of academia. But your response wasn't directed towards the statement that I actually made, hence your need to 'edit' my post (and hope I didn't notice). As for your other false claim, I've never 'laboured' to make Bible reading/interpretation part of 'academia'. My 'labour' has been to make it more central in the life of Christians gathered (i.e. the Church).  Everyone that reads it will read what they want into it. That many are guilty of this fault explains why exegesis is fundamentally important. As one comes to appreciate what the biblical texts do state, the options available for importing one's preferred meaning into the various texts become much smaller (i.e. what they don't state). Such a practice also helps to dispel the general ignorance/apathy that many Christians have towards the 'deposit of truth' preserved in and by the Church since the beginning. You can't control everyone :) Which is good to learn seeing as I control noone. But unlike you, however, I apparently can control myself. And Tony is as wrong as every other control freak who thinks he is god's right hand man. Nah. You think Tony's wrong because he's male. I think he's wrong because he does exactly what you did back when you kidded yourself that you were a Christian: he refuses to bend the knee to Christ by standing under the Word of God.

There now, that wasn't so hard to understand was it? What you write has never been difficult to understand. Just as it's never been difficult to disprove and subsequently dismiss.

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Re:The Galien (ladies first) and Ian Mutual Admiration Site

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Tracey,

Time to feed your fixation with me a little more :)

What an ego mister. You just keep telling yourself that sweetheart

 And Tony is as wrong as every other control freak who thinks he is god's right hand man. Nah. You think Tony's wrong because he's male. I think he's wrong because he does exactly what you did back when you kidded yourself that you were a Christian: he refuses to bend the knee to Christ by standing under the Word of God.

As presented and backed by two thousand years of control freak assholes. No thanks. Been there, done that, seen the assholes for what they are, the organisation for what it is and frankly I'm over the self abuse. And I think all of you who think you are "called" to tell the rest of us how life should be lived are equally deluded regardless of gender.

There now, that wasn't so hard to understand was it? What you write has never been difficult to understand. Just as it's never been difficult to disprove and subsequently dismiss.

As is your forte. Gee you get off on strange things.


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Re:The Galien (ladies first) and Ian Mutual Admiration Site

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Tracey,

Keep on leading with the chin!

Time to feed your fixation with me a little more :)  What an ego mister. You just keep telling yourself that sweetheart. I don't have to, as the proof is all over the forum. The only posts that you ever make here are about me, and the only posts that you ever made on Barton's forum were ... wait for it ... about me! :)

So, as I've asked of you so many times before, fixated or what?

Goose.

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Re:The Galien (ladies first) and Ian Mutual Admiration Site

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Tracey,

Yeah I guess thats is the difference between you and me Ian, for you christianity is just another social function, as it is for most Australians. Still professing to knowing "what's what" about Christianity, and to speaking for 'most' Australians, huh?

I actually expect it to mean something deep and precious to the person. Most people dont give god a second thought unless they are motivated by fear or social necessity. Given that you reject God yourself, I seriously doubt that you're in any position to be providing social commentary on the matter.

Apart from continually feeding your unhealthy fixation with me, and looking 'needy' in the bargain, exactly what is it that you hope to achieve, here?

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Re:The Galien (ladies first) and Ian Mutual Admiration Site

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Tracey,

Yeah I guess thats is the difference between you and me Ian, for you christianity is just another social function, as it is for most Australians. Still professing to knowing "what's what" about Christianity, and to speaking for 'most' Australians, huh?

I actually expect it to mean something deep and precious to the person. Most people dont give god a second thought unless they are motivated by fear or social necessity. Given that you reject God yourself, I seriously doubt that you're in any position to be providing social commentary on the matter.

Apart from continually feeding your unhealthy fixation with me, and looking 'needy' in the bargain, exactly what is it that you hope to achieve, here?

Goose.

Ian

Well Ian you seem to think your opinions are fact, which is not suprising considering your actual religion is being right, and has nothing to do with god whatsoever. I am as entitled as anyone else to comment on whatever I choose.

Yes, I know in you sad little world seeming "needy" is such a terrible thing, but its honest sweet, I have no time for masks or hiding my agendas. I know this whole honesty thing is a foreign concept to you, but I guess you have made it clear you would never have the balls to give anyone an insight into what really goes on in that heart of yours. Your attempts to amuse yourself by trying to find my weak points and twist the knife are unconscionable, but I guess that is standard fare for your type.

I'm not fixated on you Ian, you are merely the most reachable target at this time, and yes, it is probably fair to say I do take things out on you which I should be taking up with others. Not that there is any point, you people are hard, cold and have no compassion or empathy whatsoever for those who will not toe the line. You are just another one in a long line of assholes. Lucky you.

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Re:The Galien (ladies first) and Ian Mutual Admiration Site

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Ms Santarelli,

Having a 'slow' day, huh?

You wouldn't know what compassion was if it crawled up your ass and laid eggs. Why? Beacuse I refuse to 'coo' over you, saying, 'there, there you're fully entitled to being wrong/bitter/arrogant, etc'? Who is your neighbour Ian? EVERYONE. Absolutely! But I am sure you will find a way to bend, twist and stretch that one to so it doesn't apply to you, and so it excludes everyone you don't believe worthy of it. Hardly. When the hand is repeatedly slapped away, it's no longer extended. As the old addage goes: one can lead a mule to water, but one can't force it to drink (even if one would really like to hold it's head under for a bit).

Don't blame me for your poor choices.

Goose.

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Re:The Galien (ladies first) and Ian Mutual Admiration Site

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Ms Santarelli,

Having a 'slow' day, huh?

You wouldn't know what compassion was if it crawled up your ass and laid eggs. Why? Beacuse I refuse to 'coo' over you, saying, 'there, there you're fully entitled to being wrong/bitter/arrogant, etc'? Who is your neighbour Ian? EVERYONE. Absolutely! But I am sure you will find a way to bend, twist and stretch that one to so it doesn't apply to you, and so it excludes everyone you don't believe worthy of it. Hardly. When the hand is repeatedly slapped away, it's no longer extended. As the old addage goes: one can lead a mule to water, but one can't force it to drink (even if one would really like to hold it's head under for a bit).

Don't blame me for your poor choices.

Goose.

Ian

It is your poor choices Ian we are discussing, namely your belief that you have the right to force others to drink, because it is their conformity you care about, not them. Christians have managed to convince themselves throughout the whole history of the church that they can treat people however they want to ensure conformity. And of course you would like to hold my head under, isn't that what they always did with witches (read: those with the balls to challenge the church's disgraceful behaviour)? Whether it is drowning them, torturing them, burning them, breaking their joints with a hammer, and in more modern times breaking their mind, their will, using social exclusion, ridicule and plaind old fear, the church has never really cared how it treated dissenters, as long as they were silenced. The issue here is your belief that you have the right to do that.
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Re:The Galien (ladies first) and Ian Mutual Admiration Site

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Tracey,

It is your poor choices Ian we are discussing, namely your belief that you have the right to force others to drink, because it is their conformity you care about, not them. Au contraire. If someone claims to being Christian, then the claim itself needs to meet the Scripture test. If it fails, then the claim itself is disproven. To use my former metaphor, I don't force anyone to 'drink', nor can I. All that I can do is point out the 'water' and offer the 'cup'. That the 'cup' itself is so often rejected, proves the premise. Christianity is, after all, on Christ's terms, not yours.

Christians have managed to convince themselves throughout the whole history of the church that they can treat people however they want to ensure conformity. Your grasp of history is about as solid as is your grasp of Scripture: tenuous, at best. And of course you would like to hold my head under, isn't that what they always did with witches (read: those with the balls to challenge the church's disgraceful behaviour)? Ahem. First, mine was naught but a whimsical quip. In any case, your 'hygrophobia' would prevent you from getting within cooee of the 'water', so the point is altogether moot.  Second, 'witches'?! You want to introduce 'witches' into the discussion?! Anyway, they weren't persecuted because they supposedly 'had the balls to challenge the church's disgraceful behaviour' at all. Such people were persecuted for a range of perceived slights, all them centred in the superstitious ignorance that defined the times. Whether it is drowning them, torturing them, burning them, breaking their joints with a hammer, and in more modern times breaking their mind, their will, using social exclusion, ridicule and plaind old fear, the church has never really cared how it treated dissenters, as long as they were silenced. To be a Church 'dissenter', one needs to have been in the ranks to begin with. Those who haven't been, such as you, are better referred to as Church 'critics'.

The fact is that noone can force a person to be a Christian. You have chosen not to be one, hence your alienation from the Christian Church is the result of your choices.

The issue here is your belief that you have the right to do that. 'No', the issue here is that I have the right, the obligation, and the wherewithal to challenge views that claim to being Scriptural, but aren't. Your gripe is that your pride was incapable of taking the correction, nothing more.

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Re:The Galien (ladies first) and Ian Mutual Admiration Site

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Tracey,

Ever since christianty began those of you who think they are in charge of it, you have confused what god wants with want you want. Hmmm. Apparently God hasn't minded, given that he's blessed the venture from 'go' to 'whoa'.

Well youwould have to say that wouldnt you given the depth of your commitment. Has nothing to do with god and everything to de with being very clever at manipulating people.

It is just another way for you people to exercise your desire for power over others. According to whom? Yo
u?

Myself and every other person abused by churches.
I learned not to listen when what you do is evil. You can continue to bullshit to yourselves as long as you want, but I refuse to treat people badly on your say so. Interesting. When did I tell you to treat people badly? Humph! As if you need 'telling' in any case; being objectionable seems to be hardwired into your DNA.

Oh thats right I am supposed to be a good little girl and do exactly what I'm told. Thinking for myself or disagreeing with my betters makes me objectionable.

 I do not believe that you have some divine unction from god to rule over his flock, I believe it is a mantle you take upon yourselves for you own selfish reasons. That's interesting given that I don't claim to be 'ruling' over his flock, but to be teaching within it. But if you're referring to those whom God has appointed to 'rule', it's probably best you take your complaint up with him (instead of presuming to speak on his behalf).

Proof of the pudding is in the eating mate. You rule this place with an iron fist. Go back through every post anyone makes that goes against what you believe to be right, you cannot resist putting the boot in. You take obvious delight in telling others that they are wrong.

You have turned whatever jesus started into a dry hardhearted institution and sucked the love and compassion clean out of it. And as always, you're very long on personal opinion and remarkably short on facts.

And you are very long on presenting your personal opinion as fact and avoiding explaining your own behaviour. Master of deflection.

You Ian disobey god every time you choose not to show compassion to your neighbour. And which of my neighbours have I failed to show compassion to?

Anyone on this site who disagrees with you, or who you consider ignorant.

Who is your neighbour is not for you to decide. No, clearly that job belongs to you.

Actually I thought that when jesus said everyone is your neighbour that HE decided.

Too busy with your nose stuck in everyone else's business. 'Sufficient for today is the evil, thereof'.

Geez I know it must be really difficult for you Ms Santarelli, but I'm wondering if you're capable of making a single post that: (a) doesn't involve incredible feats of hypocrisy; (2) presents evidence of an informed opinion; and, (c) isn't an ad hom attack against me, masquerading as a plea for social justice?

And I wonder if you are capable of making a post that addresses the issues instead of deflecting them by attacking me?

I reckon if you were to cut yourself, lemon juice would flow rather than blood.

Why Ian,because I refuse to tolerate any further bullshit from people like you?

F-I-X-A-T-E-D Goose.

U-N-M-I-T-I-G-A-T-E-D Asshole.

Ian

Tracey



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galien please take your issues with ian offline.

Excuse me? I suspect no one would like that very much, least of all Ian. Ian believes it is hardwired in my DNA to be objectionable. What is hardwired in there is the disgust at these people thinking they have anything to teach us when they not even able to understand basic concepts. Concepts like the whole point of jesus dying outside salvation was to help us learn humility, not to just run after this stupid society and suck up to all its mores, and work it just like everyone else does. Without basic humility is it impossible to love others the way god calls us to. I want to know why these so called "teachers" dont even understand that. Because they don't, they feed their congregations love for the insitution of the church, instead of for each other. They end up worshipping the insitution instead of god, and loving the history and tradition of the insitution instead of each other. They talk themselves into believing the insitution can do no wrong and is not to be held up to question. That is no different from revival.

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galien please take your issues with ian offline.

Excuse me? I suspect no one would like that very much, least of all Ian. Ian believes it is hardwired in my DNA to be objectionable. What is hardwired in there is the disgust at these people thinking they have anything to teach us when they not even able to understand basic concepts. Concepts like the whole point of jesus dying outside salvation was to help us learn humility, not to just run after this stupid society and suck up to all its mores, and work it just like everyone else does. Without basic humility is it impossible to love others the way god calls us to. I want to know why these so called "teachers" dont even understand that. Because they don't, they feed their congregations love for the insitution of the church, instead of for each other. They end up worshipping the insitution instead of god, and loving the history and tradition of the insitution instead of each other. They talk themselves into believing the insitution can do no wrong and is not to be held up to question. That is no different from revival.
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Re:The Galien (ladies first) and Ian Mutual Admiration Site

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Good morning, Tracey.

Fixation feeding time again.

Excuse me? I suspect no one would like that very much, least of all Ian. Well, I reckon a goodly part of the regular audience of this forum would be ecstatic if you were to take your whinging about me off-line. People have been saying so for years (Unkoolman would probably appreciate the subsequent increase in available bandwith that would result, too).

Ian believes it is hardwired in my DNA to be objectionable. Lots of people who know you do, Tracey. What is hardwired in there is the disgust at these people thinking they have anything to teach us when they not even able to understand basic concepts. 'Basic concepts', huh? Such as: 'Tracey, noone is particularly interested in hearing you air your grievances about Ian, over and over"? Concepts like the whole point of jesus dying outside salvation was to help us learn humility, not to just run after this stupid society and suck up to all its mores, and work it just like everyone else does. You really should stick to what you're good at, like whining. Biblical theology (or biblical anything, for that matter) simply isn't your 'bag'. The entire point of Jesus dying was obedience to the will of the Father (and what's with the 'us' language?). Without basic humility is it impossible to love others the way god calls us to. Given that you lack the basic humility required to love God the way that he calls you to, what imbues your opinions on how you think he calls us to love others with any authority? Hypocrite. I want to know why these so called "teachers" dont even understand that. No you don't. You just want the opportunity to 'spout off' again.

Would you care to learn what the greatest act of humility a human being can demonstrate is, Tracey? It's to repent and obey God. I've done so, you haven't; so clearly I'm far, far more humble than are you. Hypocrite. Because they don't, they feed their congregations love for the insitution of the church, instead of for each other. They end up worshipping the insitution instead of god, and loving the history and tradition of the insitution instead of each other. They talk themselves into believing the insitution can do no wrong and is not to be held up to question. That is no different from revival. Given that you have no first-hand knowledge of the matter, I trust you'll forgive me for not having too much concern about the constant stream of 'white noise' that proceeds from your keyboard each and every time you 'wax ridiculous' about Christianity.

What is no different to 'Revival', Ms Santarelli, are the following: (1) the refusal to listen to others because one is too busy speaking. (2) A misplaced sense of arrogance. (3) Inappropriate wresting of Scripture. (4) Base hypocrisy. (5) Presuming to speak for God. Considered against these criteria, when do you plan on shucking your Revivalist ways?

Goose.

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