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Here you go guys, a whole new thread dedicated to the two of you.
Enjoy.      
"Faith is not about everything turning out OK; Faith is about being OK no matter how things turn out."
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If you're sufficiently interested, pick up a copy of the DSM IV(TR), and check out the psychopathologies for the various conditions listed in Clusters B & C.

Blessings,

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Hmmm so now you are a psychotherapist too Ian, gee you must be busy. I wonder just how narcissistic it is though to believe someone has a fixation on you when they don't. Sounds more like something a revival pastor would think :)

What it IS about is letting you power hungry fucktards who abuse people in the name of god know that no matter how hard you try to silence us, you never will. Never.
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If you're sufficiently interested, pick up a copy of the DSM IV(TR), and check out the psychopathologies for the various conditions listed in Clusters B & C.

Blessings,

Ian



Hmmm so now you are a psychotherapist too Ian, gee you must be busy. I wonder just how narcissistic it is though to believe someone has a fixation on you when they don't. Sounds more like something a revival pastor would think :)

What it IS about is letting you power hungry fucktards who abuse people in the name of god know that no matter how hard you try to silence us, you never will. Never.

galien give it a rest. your completely fixated with didaktikon and all denying it does is make you look even more stupid.
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If you're sufficiently interested, pick up a copy of the DSM IV(TR), and check out the psychopathologies for the various conditions listed in Clusters B & C.

Blessings,

Ian



Hmmm so now you are a psychotherapist too Ian, gee you must be busy. I wonder just how narcissistic it is though to believe someone has a fixation on you when they don't. Sounds more like something a revival pastor would think :)

What it IS about is letting you power hungry fucktards who abuse people in the name of god know that no matter how hard you try to silence us, you never will. Never.

Q. How is the way you abuse people any different?
A. It isn't.
Q. Who do you think is interested in hearing you whinge about Ian all the time?
A. Not me.
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Honey I dont hold a candle to you when it comes to verbal diarrhoea. Say what you like, believe what you like, doesn't make it true.

And to the person who said I look stupid, do you honestly think I care???? You sit there on your hands while he says and does whatever he likes and very rarely does one of you sad little yes people have the balls to challenge him. And I am the one that looks stupid? He plays you all like puppets, just like the revival pastors used to do, and just like then, you let him. Silly, silly sheeple.

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eeew guys, go easy on the bromance. looks like you are heading towards a "mens night"
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Guest,

eeew guys, go easy on the bromance. Hmmm ... jealous? looks like you are heading towards a "mens night". To be honest, I wouldn't know. Could you share from your extensive personal experience of such things so I can make an informed assessment, one way or another?

Ian

Jealous of what, exactly? Sad little asslickers? I think not. Never been to a men's night, but I'm assuming there are only men there and asslicking almost certainly occurs, be it literally or figuratively.
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Guest,

Never been to a men's night ... I see. So yours was simply another ignorant comment, made by simply another ignorant malcontent? Understood. And you're not taken seriously here, 'why', again?

Goose.

Ian


Like I could care less if you boring little people take me seriously. Yeah yeah I know everyone who doesnt lick your ass is ignorant. We know Ian. Yawn.
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 Looks like Torben and Ian are making friends. Maybe they should get together for a massage. I don't know either of them, but they both seem quite convinced that they are always correct. No one else will ever know better.
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a) People who have been disappointed or hurt by religious organisations like GRC, RCI & CAI find their way to this site.

b) The Mods and others on this site pull up alongside in their caddy offering support and convince people that many of their problems lie in the Acts 2:38 doctrine of these groups. and as a result throw the Revival Fellowship in the mix.

c) They then promote orthodox teaching (or should I say Lukewarm Christianity) as the answer to their woes. Thus prostituting these disappointed and let down Christians to promote the doctrines of the mother of harlots and her fellow harlot orthodox groups like baptists, methodist and C of E etc.

PUT PLAINLY THEY ARE EXPLOITING THESE PEOPLE TO FURTHER THEIR FALSE DOCTRINES, WOLVES PREYING ON WOUNDED SHEEP. EXACLY AS THE LORD SAID IT WOULD BE LIKE IN THESE LAST DAYS.

Really Tony, I thought the problem was more that you guys think the problem stops with revival doctrine in the first place. At no point does anyone want to address the whole problem with organisational and political bullshit in the first place. Ian et al just want to duckshove everyone who leaves revival into ANOTHER organisation who can tell them how to live instead of them working it out for themselves. Or even better, working out why they need to be perpetual children with spiritual "parents" who do their thinking for them.

This is what more of you reading this should be doing rather than coming here to air your laundry. Only then would you find real peace.

Mate, it isnt up to you or Ian to be telling other people what they should be doing or how they can find real peace. If you guys ever get your collective heads out of your asses, I will be more suprised than anyone. Not happy unless you are telling everyone else how it SHOULD be done, you are no better than Ian. Ego central.



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In one scene Alice had chastised the Cheshire Cat for importing his own meaning into a certain word, whereupon the Cat indignantly replied, "this word means what I want it to mean, nothing more and nothing less!" Try reflecting on the connotation, and the implications.

I LOVE the chesire cat. Dude had BALLS :)

 But you're the only one who has ever suggested that biblical interpretation is based on an uncontrolled, thoroughly subjective and allegorical reading of Scripture.

No he isn't, and he's right :)


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Hello, Tracey.

But you're the only one who has ever suggested to me [I note that you intentionally edited out this qualifier when you 'quoted' me in your reply, Ms Santarelli] that biblical interpretation is based on an uncontrolled, thoroughly subjective and allegorical reading of Scripture. No he isn't, and he's right :)

You wouldn't know. A nice example of you dishonestly handling text, above, by the way.

I do wonder that in your response to Tony a few minutes ago, you indicated that he was wrong. But now you seem to be suggesting he is right. So which is it?

Ian you can be so obtuse at times. It is right that the reading of scripture is subjective, no matter how long you and your ilk have laboured away to make it part of academia. Everyone that reads it will read what they want into it. You can't control everyone :) And Tony is as wrong as every other control freak who thinks he is god's right hand man.

There now, that wasn't so hard to understand was it?
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Ian you can be so obtuse at times. It is right that the reading of scripture is subjective, no matter how long you and your ilk have laboured away to make it part of academia. Baloney, academia gave us the Holy Scripture and some notable academics such as William Tyndale were burnt at the stake by the command of the King of England for it.

And? Still doesnt explain why so many theologians and other longterm christians are STILL ego driven assholes after decades of the so called renewing of their minds.

 Everyone that reads it will read what they want into it.  I hope that you are not accusing Ian of eisegesis.. now now you are a glutton for punishment !! I dare you to try, if you can ??

The only things I ever accuse ian of are being an asshole and a control freak. Clearly though your brand of christianity and his seem to think those things are in keeping with the mind of christ.

You can't control everyone :) Ian has never even once in the last decade and a half since I have know him has tried or even attempted to control anyone .. Correct anyone ?? yes !! every time !! but control ?? I pronounce 'not guilty' 

Ian knows very well how he controls people, exactly the same way EVERY religion does. And I don't ever recall requesting correction, not that ian needs an invitation for that. He thinks its his special caliling from god. Hehe.

And Tony is as wrong as every other control freak who thinks he is god's right hand man. Tony needs to learn how to control himself first.

Tony is like every other self important church leader, he is right in his own mind and that is all that matters.

There now, that wasn't so hard to understand was it? No it wasn't !!

Then explain it to your silly mate.





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Tracey,

Time to feed your fixation with me a little more :)

What an ego mister. You just keep telling yourself that sweetheart

 And Tony is as wrong as every other control freak who thinks he is god's right hand man. Nah. You think Tony's wrong because he's male. I think he's wrong because he does exactly what you did back when you kidded yourself that you were a Christian: he refuses to bend the knee to Christ by standing under the Word of God.

As presented and backed by two thousand years of control freak assholes. No thanks. Been there, done that, seen the assholes for what they are, the organisation for what it is and frankly I'm over the self abuse. And I think all of you who think you are "called" to tell the rest of us how life should be lived are equally deluded regardless of gender.

There now, that wasn't so hard to understand was it? What you write has never been difficult to understand. Just as it's never been difficult to disprove and subsequently dismiss.

As is your forte. Gee you get off on strange things.


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Tracey,

Yeah I guess thats is the difference between you and me Ian, for you christianity is just another social function, as it is for most Australians. Still professing to knowing "what's what" about Christianity, and to speaking for 'most' Australians, huh?

I actually expect it to mean something deep and precious to the person. Most people dont give god a second thought unless they are motivated by fear or social necessity. Given that you reject God yourself, I seriously doubt that you're in any position to be providing social commentary on the matter.

Apart from continually feeding your unhealthy fixation with me, and looking 'needy' in the bargain, exactly what is it that you hope to achieve, here?

Goose.

Ian

Well Ian you seem to think your opinions are fact, which is not suprising considering your actual religion is being right, and has nothing to do with god whatsoever. I am as entitled as anyone else to comment on whatever I choose.

Yes, I know in you sad little world seeming "needy" is such a terrible thing, but its honest sweet, I have no time for masks or hiding my agendas. I know this whole honesty thing is a foreign concept to you, but I guess you have made it clear you would never have the balls to give anyone an insight into what really goes on in that heart of yours. Your attempts to amuse yourself by trying to find my weak points and twist the knife are unconscionable, but I guess that is standard fare for your type.

I'm not fixated on you Ian, you are merely the most reachable target at this time, and yes, it is probably fair to say I do take things out on you which I should be taking up with others. Not that there is any point, you people are hard, cold and have no compassion or empathy whatsoever for those who will not toe the line. You are just another one in a long line of assholes. Lucky you.

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Ms Santarelli,

Having a 'slow' day, huh?

You wouldn't know what compassion was if it crawled up your ass and laid eggs. Why? Beacuse I refuse to 'coo' over you, saying, 'there, there you're fully entitled to being wrong/bitter/arrogant, etc'? Who is your neighbour Ian? EVERYONE. Absolutely! But I am sure you will find a way to bend, twist and stretch that one to so it doesn't apply to you, and so it excludes everyone you don't believe worthy of it. Hardly. When the hand is repeatedly slapped away, it's no longer extended. As the old addage goes: one can lead a mule to water, but one can't force it to drink (even if one would really like to hold it's head under for a bit).

Don't blame me for your poor choices.

Goose.

Ian

It is your poor choices Ian we are discussing, namely your belief that you have the right to force others to drink, because it is their conformity you care about, not them. Christians have managed to convince themselves throughout the whole history of the church that they can treat people however they want to ensure conformity. And of course you would like to hold my head under, isn't that what they always did with witches (read: those with the balls to challenge the church's disgraceful behaviour)? Whether it is drowning them, torturing them, burning them, breaking their joints with a hammer, and in more modern times breaking their mind, their will, using social exclusion, ridicule and plaind old fear, the church has never really cared how it treated dissenters, as long as they were silenced. The issue here is your belief that you have the right to do that.
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Tracey,

Ever since christianty began those of you who think they are in charge of it, you have confused what god wants with want you want. Hmmm. Apparently God hasn't minded, given that he's blessed the venture from 'go' to 'whoa'.

Well youwould have to say that wouldnt you given the depth of your commitment. Has nothing to do with god and everything to de with being very clever at manipulating people.

It is just another way for you people to exercise your desire for power over others. According to whom? Yo
u?

Myself and every other person abused by churches.
I learned not to listen when what you do is evil. You can continue to bullshit to yourselves as long as you want, but I refuse to treat people badly on your say so. Interesting. When did I tell you to treat people badly? Humph! As if you need 'telling' in any case; being objectionable seems to be hardwired into your DNA.

Oh thats right I am supposed to be a good little girl and do exactly what I'm told. Thinking for myself or disagreeing with my betters makes me objectionable.

 I do not believe that you have some divine unction from god to rule over his flock, I believe it is a mantle you take upon yourselves for you own selfish reasons. That's interesting given that I don't claim to be 'ruling' over his flock, but to be teaching within it. But if you're referring to those whom God has appointed to 'rule', it's probably best you take your complaint up with him (instead of presuming to speak on his behalf).

Proof of the pudding is in the eating mate. You rule this place with an iron fist. Go back through every post anyone makes that goes against what you believe to be right, you cannot resist putting the boot in. You take obvious delight in telling others that they are wrong.

You have turned whatever jesus started into a dry hardhearted institution and sucked the love and compassion clean out of it. And as always, you're very long on personal opinion and remarkably short on facts.

And you are very long on presenting your personal opinion as fact and avoiding explaining your own behaviour. Master of deflection.

You Ian disobey god every time you choose not to show compassion to your neighbour. And which of my neighbours have I failed to show compassion to?

Anyone on this site who disagrees with you, or who you consider ignorant.

Who is your neighbour is not for you to decide. No, clearly that job belongs to you.

Actually I thought that when jesus said everyone is your neighbour that HE decided.

Too busy with your nose stuck in everyone else's business. 'Sufficient for today is the evil, thereof'.

Geez I know it must be really difficult for you Ms Santarelli, but I'm wondering if you're capable of making a single post that: (a) doesn't involve incredible feats of hypocrisy; (2) presents evidence of an informed opinion; and, (c) isn't an ad hom attack against me, masquerading as a plea for social justice?

And I wonder if you are capable of making a post that addresses the issues instead of deflecting them by attacking me?

I reckon if you were to cut yourself, lemon juice would flow rather than blood.

Why Ian,because I refuse to tolerate any further bullshit from people like you?

F-I-X-A-T-E-D Goose.

U-N-M-I-T-I-G-A-T-E-D Asshole.

Ian

Tracey



galien please take your issues with ian offline.
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galien please take your issues with ian offline.

Excuse me? I suspect no one would like that very much, least of all Ian. Ian believes it is hardwired in my DNA to be objectionable. What is hardwired in there is the disgust at these people thinking they have anything to teach us when they not even able to understand basic concepts. Concepts like the whole point of jesus dying outside salvation was to help us learn humility, not to just run after this stupid society and suck up to all its mores, and work it just like everyone else does. Without basic humility is it impossible to love others the way god calls us to. I want to know why these so called "teachers" dont even understand that. Because they don't, they feed their congregations love for the insitution of the church, instead of for each other. They end up worshipping the insitution instead of god, and loving the history and tradition of the insitution instead of each other. They talk themselves into believing the insitution can do no wrong and is not to be held up to question. That is no different from revival.

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galien please take your issues with ian offline.

Excuse me? I suspect no one would like that very much, least of all Ian. Ian believes it is hardwired in my DNA to be objectionable. What is hardwired in there is the disgust at these people thinking they have anything to teach us when they not even able to understand basic concepts. Concepts like the whole point of jesus dying outside salvation was to help us learn humility, not to just run after this stupid society and suck up to all its mores, and work it just like everyone else does. Without basic humility is it impossible to love others the way god calls us to. I want to know why these so called "teachers" dont even understand that. Because they don't, they feed their congregations love for the insitution of the church, instead of for each other. They end up worshipping the insitution instead of god, and loving the history and tradition of the insitution instead of each other. They talk themselves into believing the insitution can do no wrong and is not to be held up to question. That is no different from revival.
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