The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship

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Hi All,

Yesterday we were in a very interesting conversation about what people are willing to tolerate and why they do so, in the Rev's Assembly,(yes it happens else where I know, but that wasn't the conversation:) even to the point where exposed evidence is knowingly ignored and even twisted......but that's another story!

The behavior displayed can certainly depends on what circle,connection or position you occupy as to how you are treated. The 'heavy hand' and the 'blind eye' have both been used to the very extremes of the spectrum.

Since leaving R and speaking to former members of the Associated Rev's I have been sometimes saddened

by the circumstances of peoples departure.

And I'm sure there are circumstances that require peoples separation (for a time)- for the 'destruction of the flesh' or to be 'chastened' in Love to learn and grow personally Spiritually etc

But we are aware there are circumstances where that has not been the underlying motivation.

The flexing of the Ego just because "I can because I'm the Pastor and I say so" A statement synonymous

with Bris Ass and Canberra and others no doubt.

Some stories over the years about why people have been put out are so ridiculous that they are almost funny.

I thought it would be interesting to hear different situations that you know or have experience where people have been disciplined for reasons not entirely scripturally disciplined based.....I think the compounding pattern that appears will speak volumes

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Please be respectful, I would like suggest this is not an open invitation to malign or have a 'stab' at people who have made errors, so please don't post if your motivation is based to be nasty or judgmental at the recipient, and please don't use names with out that persons permission.

Just while I'm on the subject......

I don't believe we should post here or invite others to post here just to add insult to the already injured, but reality is it does happen and people react differently for different reasons.

I would suggest to try to be giving not judgmental even when others are not, ultimately we only answerable for ourselves and the choices we make.

What's good for the goose is not necessarily for the Gander!

Use your powers for good not evil

And thus ends the Posting 'Etiquette for this thread.

As I hear it, I'll repeat it, Its up to you if you believe it! Allegation big and small, soon revealed before us all. outa here- Outa Egypt!

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Shall I kick it off........
I am a huge Monty Python fan, sadly, I know the script of some heart to heart and can burst into song and quotation where deemed appropriate- unfortunately usually deemed appropriate by myself and not the Monty Phython unconverted around me....
Oh well their loss....Woof Nipple chips and Badgers noses to them!
I reassure my social confidence with -Im not strange....just misunderstood

I am known to discipline my child with "You are not the Messiah your a Naughty, naughty boy/girl... Now go and clean your room".....So far it works.... See I have gleaned valuable lessons in Parenting- priceless fountain of resourceful information. Dr Green doesn't teach that piece of practical advice....he just teaches you to squeeze in between the shoulder and neck of a child to painfully bring your child into submission, or there's always the recent rising of this preacher that teaches you to hid a switch( of appropriate sizing to your child- that's big switch or bigger switch)) down your pants so you can beat your child for a good part of their waking hours.
And further more  being able to recognize a killer bunny can save a life.

The relevance to this thread you may ask?

Many years ago there were a couple of young women(are there any women here?) who at a supper type youngies night in their home put on a Monty Phython Movie-The Holy Grail.(there was no organized activity as such)

Well goodness me the oversight were up in arms. 
The then up and coming brown nosing soon to be Heir Youngies Pastor took it upon himself to sacrifice himself and watch this movie to ascertain appropriate punishment for this vile act.
He settled in and (much to my amusement ) Watched the wrong movie- Life of Brian, , he was thorough though just to be sure he watched the wrong movie twice and with that.... the girls were out for a Month!!!!!

But seriously the Scriptural content I've picked up from that movie has been invaluable compared to some talks I've endured over the years......
I mean really, blessed are the meek,
they do get a Hell of a time of it!!
and don't forget the Cheese Makers!!!!!

Oh and by the way I want to be called Loretta and I want to have babies!

Oooops...time for my medication.....

As I hear it, I'll repeat it, Its up to you if you believe it! Allegation big and small, soon revealed before us all. outa here- Outa Egypt!

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There are heaps!

Lot of folk put out for no other reason than they are unable to kick the habit of smoking.

I recall being sent with my wife years ago to 'follow up' on a young woman that had been in the RF a couple of weeks. She was sharing a flat with a guy.  It was a totally innocent, platonic living arrangement, and they had lived together for some time.  The 'oversight' deemed it unacceptable, and put pressure on her to kick her flatmate out.  I recall speaking with her soon after.  She was perplexed that she was being treated that way, and upset that she was made to feel wrong or immoral.  As she didn't have the heart to follow the 'wisdom of their ways' she was either put out or left (not sure) but either way, she was not made to feel welcome or acceptable because she was judged as being a poor testimony.

To this day, I cringe at the word 'testimony'.  The many subtle suggestions I heard over the years that we are always under the scrutiny of others as to whether or not we are behaving correctly.  What a bullshit way to live!

Dog.

"for there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so" Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 2, Scene 2)

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I suppose I should have been put many a time for having a bet on my favourite horse race: The Melbourne Cup... and I'd have and still have my annual $20 - $60 flutter plus the obligatory work sweep ..... and I never let on to anyone in 14 years at RCI... and I will placing a bet again this year too.. The only time I have a little gamble in my life!!

.... but I suppose when you compare with the iniquity of gambling the family homes of the church membership with Gold Coast property scams amounting in the millions by the church leadership, a harmless bet on the Melbourne Cup is relatively harmless..

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 Not all too long ago there was a new family come into an Assembly they had a teenage child that happily came to meetings and a regular attendance to youngies.
 Mum and Dad had had a S.I.T. experience but the teenager had not. S/He continued to happily attend youngies and then it came to the Youngies formal night where all get spiffed up and apparently all very exciting.
The planning of the dresses and ties were all taking place, who was taking who and  The Pastor bluntly told the Kid they couldn't attend they weren't Spirit Filled.... Nurturing and encouragement at it's very best!!!!

As I hear it, I'll repeat it, Its up to you if you believe it! Allegation big and small, soon revealed before us all. outa here- Outa Egypt!

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 Hey Brolga,
It is astounding isn't it.
In someways the thought pattern that goes with the decisions they make are almost void of human fibre.
Their is no understanding of Mentoring or nurturing.
We were always amazed that even basic social graces seemed to be not evident. We would always have people living with us or Youngies nights, having 21st's at our house or large groups of people over for meals, people wouldn't even have the courtesy to bring a drink. I can think of so many people that for a good 15 years continually were invited over for meals and  the offer by some in-particular was never reciprocated. 
I don't think it actually would of crossed their minds as a nice thing to do.
Speaking In Tongues is their God, their idea of being Spiritual, is to move away from  basic Human needs.
But as we are told we are Marvelously made, our complexities divide us from the Animal Kingdom the way the Lord specifically designed us but yet they run from anything Psychology based instead of wanting to understand and strengthen natural characteristics, abilities developing natural Talents.
Personal People skills are pretty low on the list of priorities.
The O/S need to skip a Christmas camp and go to team building boot camp for a week- that would reveal some pretty interesting reactions.
 Get them right out of their insular comfort zone.
 They would be blank faced understanding the different Personality types, I wonder if there would be a certain type of personality that came back if they were all tested.

As I hear it, I'll repeat it, Its up to you if you believe it! Allegation big and small, soon revealed before us all. outa here- Outa Egypt!

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I can think of more than a few odd reasons people have been put out of church or merely threatened - i can also think of some typical ones that were executed in a bizzare fashion.

www.Facebook.com - I recall being told to remove any friends from my friends list at this web address that were out of the church or who had display pictures that were considered to be inappropriate.  Probably best to interpret inappropriate pretty broadly as that may well encompass anything with a female neckline.  I think one boy was also put out of church for a short stint because his display picture was a portrait of himself standing naked on a rock turned away from the camera. Anyhow i cancelled my account given that i was not prepared to explain to my gay friends and to those who had left the church or been put out (including members of my family) why they were being removed from my social network . 

When i was 10 years old a new boy went to the pastor of our church and said i had been making fun of him... me being shy and introverted this was not a likely scenario and it was all apparently over a phrase that still haunts me "did you learn anythig today?".  Anyhow i was put out of the church at 10 years of age for a period of a few weeks as punishment for my poor behaviour.

Fornication: A young couple who had been together for years in a neighbouring assembly had committed fornication and fessed up when their relationship deteriorated in their early twenties.  Everyone under 35 or so was called into the back room of our assembly and we were told that these people had committed fornication, their names were mentioned specifically and we were also given details of how long they had been doing it and who they had gone out with following the break up of their relationship.  I was quite disgusted and i certainly didn't feel right about sitting there listening to the private sex life of two people who i had found to be of good character.  The pastor expressed his absolute disgust with them, and was appauled that they could have been sleeping with each other for so long and not said anything.  Some people say young people are the future of RCI, but i saw them that day as the victims.

Weddings! - I was to be married in the church but to my annoyance i was told that members of my family could not attend the wedding as they were ex RCI.  To quote the pastor at the time "how would you feel if Jesus was there and you had a fornicator standing behind you?".  That was a rather big issue given that my sister who was to be excluded from the celebration was one of my brides maids.  It was however doctrinally sound to have all the people in my family who'd been told about God and rejected anything to do with him.  Fortunately i didn't follow through with the wedding and it later occured to me that the whole event was something we had pretty much been forced into as we had been dating for 6 years and it seemed the old women at church had nothing better to do than gossip about how much time we spent together and when/if we had sex.

Fornication! (again) - I was dragged into the back room at a house meeting when i was 15 years old and accused of being a witch and a fornicator by a member of the church because i had been seen holding hands with a boy down the street.  Got to love the love of the brethren.  Fortunately the pastor at the time was quite sensible and he deduced that if i had been seen by someone than i obviously wasn't alone with the boy and that sufficed to be koshir.  We all know what an accusation like that leads to however and i left the church for 2 years following the incident as i was incredibly traumatised.  My mother had also been put out at this time as she was too stubborn to ring up the pastor of our church and apologise for swearing at him.  You see her daughter (my sister) had run away from home and she desperately wanted to look for her but she was advised to just go back to our house and wait - carry on with life as usual.  Possibly worth mentioning that the pastor had never had children.

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Good morning, Miss Dosk.

Quite the upbringing, huh? Still, you're young, obviously resilient, and you seem nice enough. I reckon you'll "bounce-back" sooner rather than later, that you'll regain your trust in people generally, and that you'll end up leading a productive and enjoyable life 

But as for boys, well I keep telling my two daughters (18 and 16 y.o.) that there's nothing wrong with keeping them at arm's length! And if said boys have a problem with that, just tell daddy (the focus of the problem will then very quickly shift)! 

Blessings,

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Haha, i wish i could keep them at arms length but it seems i'm flawed in that respect and don't do too well independently.  Not for lack of trying however, i ended up working 70 hours a week and studying full time uni off-campus when i didn't have a relationship but it never filled the void and i was always yearning for someone so i gave in to whoever was asking at the time heh.  Fortunately for me he wasn't a rotten egg but when RCI told me to leave him i couldn't and out of the ashes of my departure i was kind of reborn.  Gives new meaning to the term born again.
I don't think i'd have much luck telling my dad to protect me however, he left the RCI when i was younger following an affair, the condemnation he felt and thought of life as futile since he had blown hisonly chance with God drove him into severe depression, he indulged in cocaine in an attempt to thwart his guilt and ultimately died of a drug over dose. Alone in an alley, and rolled for cash.  If nothing else he set me a darn good example of what not to do.  I would really like to have known him better but there's not much point living in the past.  Thanks for your encouraging words i have felt so lost since i left :)

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I can think of more than a few odd reasons people have been put out of church or merely threatened - i can also think of some typical ones that were executed in a bizzare fashion.
There was a different kind of ex-communication my wife and I were put through. After being caught kissing we were allowed to fellowship but not allowed to talk to each other for 3 months. When the three months were up, we got caught again and given another 'sentence'. This actually caused us to see each other away from fellowship more often and ultimately we were told we had to marry to stay, and then put out of fellowship until we were married. During our engagement, we were not allowed to see each other without the presence of parents. Although it was a long time ago, I think we deserve a public apology from Queensland's 'Pastor' Brad Smith for this humiliation.

www.Facebook.com - I recall being told to remove any friends from my friends list at this web address that were out of the church or who had display pictures that were considered to be inappropriate.  
Ha, hey... it's interesting to hear how the modern Revival centres are dealing with the on-line age we live in now. I love my facebook friends and it's a great way to keep up and communicated. Several of my friends on there are currently members of Revival Churches, which is weird.
When i was 10 years old a new boy went to the pastor of our church and said i had been making fun of him... me being shy and introverted this was not a likely scenario and it was all apparently over a phrase that still haunts me "did you learn anythig today?".  Anyhow i was put out of the church at 10 years of age for a period of a few weeks as punishment for my poor behaviour.
That is sad and ridiculous... petty little men with ties.

Weddings! - I was to be married in the church but to my annoyance i was told that members of my family could not attend the wedding as they were ex RCI.  
That's disgusting, and according to the conversations I've had with current members of RCI and RF, this is a belief they still hold onto and say amen to... the same people didn't think it was a 'culty' way to think. Pfftt... self-delusion much?
My mother had also been put out at this time as she was too stubborn to ring up the pastor of our church and apologise for swearing at him.  
A church that runs on fear-mongering and dressed up threats. Nice. Church isn't really the right word.

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Miss Dosk,

Well it sounds as if your life has had it's "three-score-and-ten" years' worth of tragedy compressed into a scant 22! 

Speaking as a Christian who is also a father to daughters, I'd offer this. There's not much that you can do about your past, but there is hope for the future ("hope" is one of those rather peculiar "theological" words, you see it's generally found in the midst of heartache and woe. Consequently, it's a beautiful word as it points towards redemption). For what it's worth, I reckon you're lucky on two fronts: first, that God promises to be a father to the fatherless. Second, that you're currently living a with a family who cares for you. I'm sure the "dad" of the house would be honoured to take on the mantle for you, if and when you need him to. Most fathers of daughters would, I imagine 

Anyway...

Keep the chin up, it ain't all bad!

Blessings,

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You were kissing your future wife? How heathenistic of you.  Actually up until very recently New Zealand was indulging in the whole no holding hands or kissing before marriage practice.  There'd be no young people in the church if they tried to implement that today, and not to be stereotypically grotesque but you'd have to be awfully unfortunate looking to adhere to that.  What you went through does sound quite horrible but it reminds me, i met my current partner on the internet, and i moved from Victoria to Brisbane to live with him but whilst i was dating him and still in RCI i attended a few Brisbane meetings and was quite frequently asked by a pastor there (who's name escapes me) if i was behaving myself.  
My best friend in the RCI started dating a boy form Melbourne and Pastor Simon gave them "the talk" when they went "official" (gotta love RCI terminology).  Anyhow one of the most memorable things he said to my friends boyfriend was "If you've been fooling aorund, sotp it, keep the cocky in the cage".  It seemed like a pretty laid back chat compared to the almost two hour long interrogation i got when i went "official".

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Dear Dosk

You sound like a beautiful young woman, who, like many of us had the misfortune to have been involved with the RC.  Just a quick word from an older (but not necessarily wiser) chook, don't EVER feel guilt or condemnation for anything you have EVER done in life. Every single one of us has done things in the past or made choices that we may not be proud of, but God looks on the heart, not on the outward appearance. He alone knows our innermost thoughts, he knew us before we were formed in our mother's womb. How He must love each and every one of his children - how amazing is that!

Ian mentioned a beautiful word - hope. Hope for the future is a gift from God, he is a God of amazing grace and of unconditional and unending love for his children.
 
Eph 1:18 May He enlighten the eyes of your mind so that you can see what hope his call holds for you...

God bless you, Urch x x

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 Dosk wrote:  When i was 10 years old a new boy went to the pastor of our church and said i had been making fun of him... me being shy and introverted this was not a likely scenario and it was all apparently over a phrase that still haunts me "did you learn anythig today?".  Anyhow i was put out of the church at 10 years of age for a period of a few weeks as punishment for my poor behavior.

I woke up with this on my mind this morning.(Good Morning Dosk) I have a  child similar age so it must of struck a chord within me.
As adults my partner and I feel emotionally abused at times depleted from the dealings we have  faced.
 My Partner a wonderful giving person, looked at me this morning and said I feel so abused that the confidence has been sucked out of me. 
This is a highly intelligent person,reliable, solid character, my partner is some one who has given above and beyond and would continue to do so if  though it was to help someone. I've never in  20++ years of Marriage heard a bad word spoken of anyone by them, probably what I as a cynic would in retrospect see as a 'flaw' is the ability to see a bit of good in all. 
I tend to look for the bad bits first so I dont have to face nasty unsuspecting surprises, but in trying to be a more what I  was told a Godly person I stopped listening to my gut Instinct.

Now what troubled me through my disturbed sleep was if us as pretty solid characters feel the way we do, what hope have these kids got. I can go prior to RC and I have a reference point that gives me a solid ground to work back from.
This example above is just out and out child abuse, what's worse than abuse of an adult is the abuse of a child.
 And on top of that the failing as a parent to protect a child- thats not meant in judgement but further evidence to the dominion held over folk that we fail to protect our young and let such absurdities be inflicted upon them. 
Don't worry I have my own issues of guilt concerning my own children to deal with.

At times we may feel that we are caught on a ride we don't want to be on. We both pray that when we finally get off we will be in a better place and through it  change and accountability to the people that are suppose to be being shepherded through exposure will take place. 

Proverbs 21:6 Getting treasures by a lying tongue Is the fleeting fantasy of those who seek death. 7 The violence of the wicked will destroy them Because they refuse to do justice.  

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Hello Everybody.

This is an interesting thread, both funny and scary.

In the sleepy South of England, way back when I were a lad, the old revival nonsense was doing it's usual rounds.  One fellow and his new wife were removed from fellowship for having some "worldly" music at their wedding as the night drew on -  some of the Revers had stayed to dance. The Worthing leader was in hospital when news of this transgression broke, and I had to break the news to this couple that they were "out". Congratulations on your wedding, you are now "out".

I cringe in shame at the memory of doing this.

A visiting couple from Australia were put out of fellowship everywhere on the planet, except Adelaide, which did them a heap of good as they were in Shoreham, UK. Their crime was trying to unite people in Worthing and trying to persuade our leader he needed to run a Sunday school for the bored kids and harrassed parents. They were absolutely villified during their time in the UK and never really got over it. There was talk, or rather gossip, crisis meetings, camp murmerings, accusations,....you name it, it became the ultimate drama.

Naturally, as a true oversight, I did nothing really to help, despite the facts of the case. Subsequently I moved to Oz, and apologised to them.

My parents were "put out" for challenging the "bad talk" that infected the place, and for questioning the leader who claimed he "never makes mistakes". Obviously then it was time for me to leave, but I managed to find enough excuses to hang around for another 7 years!

A new friend was torn to shreds for wanting to go mountaineering. Many others wanting to return after being 'out" had to discuss things with senior "oversight". A guy at camp who was  talking to a female camp employee was "rescued" by senior oversight who pulled him away.

My brother was not allowed to drive 20 miles to the meeting with only his fiance in the car with him. A senior "oversight" in Australia will not be seen in the front seat of his car if his wife is driving in case people think he has been drinking!!

And the dating policy!! Repeating myself I know, but I was 28, and asked a pastor if I could go out with a 27 year old! Marshmallow had replaced my normal brain.

My brother was banned from starting a new romance because he went to see his new girl one day before his 3 month cooling off period had ended following a previous romance. They were not allowed to see each other for some months following this.

These are just a few little droplets in a whole ocean of nonsense that I could easily recall. Any real crimes and transgressions here? Nope. But many of the above were huuuggggeee juicy events within the group.

What do you see here, what does it all spell?  R..E..V..I..V..A..L.....W..O..R..L..D.

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Reply to outaegypt (31/10/2008 20:10:56)

 Not all too long ago there was a new family come into an Assembly they had a teenage child that happily came to meetings and a regular attendance to youngies.
 Mum and Dad had had a S.I.T. experience but the teenager had not. S/He continued to happily attend youngies and then it came to the Youngies formal night where all get spiffed up and apparently all very exciting.
The planning of the dresses and ties were all taking place, who was taking who and  The Pastor bluntly told the Kid they couldn't attend they weren't Spirit Filled.... Nurturing and encouragement at it's very best!!!!


pretty sure i remember that being rci on more than one occasion

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This would have to come under most Dubious reason......... to avoid further media attention; and when it dies down bring them back!
A Spiritual reason would be a new phenomenom!

As I hear it, I'll repeat it, Its up to you if you believe it! Allegation big and small, soon revealed before us all. outa here- Outa Egypt!

outaegypt
Rank：Poster Venti I Score：6570 Posts：312 From：Unknown Register：22/06/2006 3:38 PM	Date Posted：31/10/2008 1:53 AMCopy HTML Hi All, Yesterday we were in a very interesting conversation about what people are willing to tolerate and why they do so, in the Rev's Assembly,(yes it happens else where I know, but that wasn't the conversation:) even to the point where exposed evidence is knowingly ignored and even twisted......but that's another story! The behavior displayed can certainly depends on what circle,connection or position you occupy as to how you are treated. The 'heavy hand' and the 'blind eye' have both been used to the very extremes of the spectrum. Since leaving R and speaking to former members of the Associated Rev's I have been sometimes saddened by the circumstances of peoples departure. And I'm sure there are circumstances that require peoples separation (for a time)- for the 'destruction of the flesh' or to be 'chastened' in Love to learn and grow personally Spiritually etc But we are aware there are circumstances where that has not been the underlying motivation. The flexing of the Ego just because "I can because I'm the Pastor and I say so" A statement synonymous with Bris Ass and Canberra and others no doubt. Some stories over the years about why people have been put out are so ridiculous that they are almost funny. I thought it would be interesting to hear different situations that you know or have experience where people have been disciplined for reasons not entirely scripturally disciplined based.....I think the compounding pattern that appears will speak volumes. Please be respectful, I would like suggest this is not an open invitation to malign or have a 'stab' at people who have made errors, so please don't post if your motivation is based to be nasty or judgmental at the recipient, and please don't use names with out that persons permission. Just while I'm on the subject...... I don't believe we should post here or invite others to post here just to add insult to the already injured, but reality is it does happen and people react differently for different reasons. I would suggest to try to be giving not judgmental even when others are not, ultimately we only answerable for ourselves and the choices we make. What's good for the goose is not necessarily for the Gander! Use your powers for good not evil And thus ends the Posting 'Etiquette for this thread. As I hear it, I'll repeat it, Its up to you if you believe it! Allegation big and small, soon revealed before us all. outa here- Outa Egypt!
outaegypt	Share to: #1
Rank：Poster Venti I Score：6570 Posts：312 From：Unknown Register：22/06/2006 3:38 PM	Re：The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship Date Posted：31/10/2008 2:54 AMCopy HTML Shall I kick it off........ I am a huge Monty Python fan, sadly, I know the script of some heart to heart and can burst into song and quotation where deemed appropriate- unfortunately usually deemed appropriate by myself and not the Monty Phython unconverted around me.... Oh well their loss....Woof Nipple chips and Badgers noses to them! I reassure my social confidence with -Im not strange....just misunderstood I am known to discipline my child with "You are not the Messiah your a Naughty, naughty boy/girl... Now go and clean your room".....So far it works.... See I have gleaned valuable lessons in Parenting- priceless fountain of resourceful information. Dr Green doesn't teach that piece of practical advice....he just teaches you to squeeze in between the shoulder and neck of a child to painfully bring your child into submission, or there's always the recent rising of this preacher that teaches you to hid a switch( of appropriate sizing to your child- that's big switch or bigger switch)) down your pants so you can beat your child for a good part of their waking hours. And further more being able to recognize a killer bunny can save a life. The relevance to this thread you may ask? Many years ago there were a couple of young women(are there any women here?) who at a supper type youngies night in their home put on a Monty Phython Movie-The Holy Grail.(there was no organized activity as such) Well goodness me the oversight were up in arms. The then up and coming brown nosing soon to be Heir Youngies Pastor took it upon himself to sacrifice himself and watch this movie to ascertain appropriate punishment for this vile act. He settled in and (much to my amusement ) Watched the wrong movie- Life of Brian, , he was thorough though just to be sure he watched the wrong movie twice and with that.... the girls were out for a Month!!!!! But seriously the Scriptural content I've picked up from that movie has been invaluable compared to some talks I've endured over the years...... I mean really, blessed are the meek, they do get a Hell of a time of it!! and don't forget the Cheese Makers!!!!! Oh and by the way I want to be called Loretta and I want to have babies! Oooops...time for my medication..... As I hear it, I'll repeat it, Its up to you if you believe it! Allegation big and small, soon revealed before us all. outa here- Outa Egypt!
dogmafree	Share to: #2
Rank：Poster Venti III Score：9580 Posts：416 From：Unknown Register：22/02/2006 12:26 AM	Re：The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship Date Posted：31/10/2008 8:11 PMCopy HTML There are heaps! Lot of folk put out for no other reason than they are unable to kick the habit of smoking. I recall being sent with my wife years ago to 'follow up' on a young woman that had been in the RF a couple of weeks. She was sharing a flat with a guy. It was a totally innocent, platonic living arrangement, and they had lived together for some time. The 'oversight' deemed it unacceptable, and put pressure on her to kick her flatmate out. I recall speaking with her soon after. She was perplexed that she was being treated that way, and upset that she was made to feel wrong or immoral. As she didn't have the heart to follow the 'wisdom of their ways' she was either put out or left (not sure) but either way, she was not made to feel welcome or acceptable because she was judged as being a poor testimony. To this day, I cringe at the word 'testimony'. The many subtle suggestions I heard over the years that we are always under the scrutiny of others as to whether or not we are behaving correctly. What a bullshit way to live! Dog. "for there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so" Shakespeare (Hamlet, Act 2, Scene 2)
Ex_Member	Share to: #3
Rank： Score：0 Posts：0 From：Unknown Register：21/09/2018 12:36 AM	Re：The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship Date Posted：31/10/2008 11:36 PMCopy HTML I suppose I should have been put many a time for having a bet on my favourite horse race: The Melbourne Cup... and I'd have and still have my annual $20 - $60 flutter plus the obligatory work sweep ..... and I never let on to anyone in 14 years at RCI... and I will placing a bet again this year too.. The only time I have a little gamble in my life!! .... but I suppose when you compare with the iniquity of gambling the family homes of the church membership with Gold Coast property scams amounting in the millions by the church leadership, a harmless bet on the Melbourne Cup is relatively harmless.. Disciple
outaegypt	Share to: #4
Rank：Poster Venti I Score：6570 Posts：312 From：Unknown Register：22/06/2006 3:38 PM	Re：The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship Date Posted：01/11/2008 2:10 AMCopy HTML Not all too long ago there was a new family come into an Assembly they had a teenage child that happily came to meetings and a regular attendance to youngies. Mum and Dad had had a S.I.T. experience but the teenager had not. S/He continued to happily attend youngies and then it came to the Youngies formal night where all get spiffed up and apparently all very exciting. The planning of the dresses and ties were all taking place, who was taking who and The Pastor bluntly told the Kid they couldn't attend they weren't Spirit Filled.... Nurturing and encouragement at it's very best!!!! As I hear it, I'll repeat it, Its up to you if you believe it! Allegation big and small, soon revealed before us all. outa here- Outa Egypt!
outaegypt	Share to: #5
Rank：Poster Venti I Score：6570 Posts：312 From：Unknown Register：22/06/2006 3:38 PM	Re：The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship Date Posted：01/11/2008 8:01 AMCopy HTML Hey Brolga, It is astounding isn't it. In someways the thought pattern that goes with the decisions they make are almost void of human fibre. Their is no understanding of Mentoring or nurturing. We were always amazed that even basic social graces seemed to be not evident. We would always have people living with us or Youngies nights, having 21st's at our house or large groups of people over for meals, people wouldn't even have the courtesy to bring a drink. I can think of so many people that for a good 15 years continually were invited over for meals and the offer by some in-particular was never reciprocated. I don't think it actually would of crossed their minds as a nice thing to do. Speaking In Tongues is their God, their idea of being Spiritual, is to move away from basic Human needs. But as we are told we are Marvelously made, our complexities divide us from the Animal Kingdom the way the Lord specifically designed us but yet they run from anything Psychology based instead of wanting to understand and strengthen natural characteristics, abilities developing natural Talents. Personal People skills are pretty low on the list of priorities. The O/S need to skip a Christmas camp and go to team building boot camp for a week- that would reveal some pretty interesting reactions. Get them right out of their insular comfort zone. They would be blank faced understanding the different Personality types, I wonder if there would be a certain type of personality that came back if they were all tested. As I hear it, I'll repeat it, Its up to you if you believe it! Allegation big and small, soon revealed before us all. outa here- Outa Egypt!
Dosk	Share to: #6
Rank：Noobmeister Score：400 Posts：17 From：Australia Register：29/09/2008 3:09 AM	Re：The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship Date Posted：02/11/2008 12:55 AMCopy HTML I can think of more than a few odd reasons people have been put out of church or merely threatened - i can also think of some typical ones that were executed in a bizzare fashion. www.Facebook.com - I recall being told to remove any friends from my friends list at this web address that were out of the church or who had display pictures that were considered to be inappropriate. Probably best to interpret inappropriate pretty broadly as that may well encompass anything with a female neckline. I think one boy was also put out of church for a short stint because his display picture was a portrait of himself standing naked on a rock turned away from the camera. Anyhow i cancelled my account given that i was not prepared to explain to my gay friends and to those who had left the church or been put out (including members of my family) why they were being removed from my social network . When i was 10 years old a new boy went to the pastor of our church and said i had been making fun of him... me being shy and introverted this was not a likely scenario and it was all apparently over a phrase that still haunts me "did you learn anythig today?". Anyhow i was put out of the church at 10 years of age for a period of a few weeks as punishment for my poor behaviour. Fornication: A young couple who had been together for years in a neighbouring assembly had committed fornication and fessed up when their relationship deteriorated in their early twenties. Everyone under 35 or so was called into the back room of our assembly and we were told that these people had committed fornication, their names were mentioned specifically and we were also given details of how long they had been doing it and who they had gone out with following the break up of their relationship. I was quite disgusted and i certainly didn't feel right about sitting there listening to the private sex life of two people who i had found to be of good character. The pastor expressed his absolute disgust with them, and was appauled that they could have been sleeping with each other for so long and not said anything. Some people say young people are the future of RCI, but i saw them that day as the victims. Weddings! - I was to be married in the church but to my annoyance i was told that members of my family could not attend the wedding as they were ex RCI. To quote the pastor at the time "how would you feel if Jesus was there and you had a fornicator standing behind you?". That was a rather big issue given that my sister who was to be excluded from the celebration was one of my brides maids. It was however doctrinally sound to have all the people in my family who'd been told about God and rejected anything to do with him. Fortunately i didn't follow through with the wedding and it later occured to me that the whole event was something we had pretty much been forced into as we had been dating for 6 years and it seemed the old women at church had nothing better to do than gossip about how much time we spent together and when/if we had sex. Fornication! (again) - I was dragged into the back room at a house meeting when i was 15 years old and accused of being a witch and a fornicator by a member of the church because i had been seen holding hands with a boy down the street. Got to love the love of the brethren. Fortunately the pastor at the time was quite sensible and he deduced that if i had been seen by someone than i obviously wasn't alone with the boy and that sufficed to be koshir. We all know what an accusation like that leads to however and i left the church for 2 years following the incident as i was incredibly traumatised. My mother had also been put out at this time as she was too stubborn to ring up the pastor of our church and apologise for swearing at him. You see her daughter (my sister) had run away from home and she desperately wanted to look for her but she was advised to just go back to our house and wait - carry on with life as usual. Possibly worth mentioning that the pastor had never had children. I wish i was where i used to be when i wanted to be what i am now.
Didaktikon	Share to: #7
Rank：Noobmeister Score：421 Posts：13 From：Australia Register：29/08/2007 7:54 AM	Re：The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship Date Posted：02/11/2008 1:12 AMCopy HTML Good morning, Miss Dosk. Quite the upbringing, huh? Still, you're young, obviously resilient, and you seem nice enough. I reckon you'll "bounce-back" sooner rather than later, that you'll regain your trust in people generally, and that you'll end up leading a productive and enjoyable life But as for boys, well I keep telling my two daughters (18 and 16 y.o.) that there's nothing wrong with keeping them at arm's length! And if said boys have a problem with that, just tell daddy (the focus of the problem will then very quickly shift)! Blessings, Ian email: didaktikon@gmail.com
Dosk	Share to: #8
Rank：Noobmeister Score：400 Posts：17 From：Australia Register：29/09/2008 3:09 AM	Re：The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship Date Posted：02/11/2008 1:24 AMCopy HTML Haha, i wish i could keep them at arms length but it seems i'm flawed in that respect and don't do too well independently. Not for lack of trying however, i ended up working 70 hours a week and studying full time uni off-campus when i didn't have a relationship but it never filled the void and i was always yearning for someone so i gave in to whoever was asking at the time heh. Fortunately for me he wasn't a rotten egg but when RCI told me to leave him i couldn't and out of the ashes of my departure i was kind of reborn. Gives new meaning to the term born again. I don't think i'd have much luck telling my dad to protect me however, he left the RCI when i was younger following an affair, the condemnation he felt and thought of life as futile since he had blown hisonly chance with God drove him into severe depression, he indulged in cocaine in an attempt to thwart his guilt and ultimately died of a drug over dose. Alone in an alley, and rolled for cash. If nothing else he set me a darn good example of what not to do. I would really like to have known him better but there's not much point living in the past. Thanks for your encouraging words i have felt so lost since i left :) I wish i was where i used to be when i wanted to be what i am now.
MothandRust	Share to: #9
Rank：Forum Oracle Score：41550 Posts：1881 From：Australia Register：27/02/2004 11:21 PM	Re：The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship Date Posted：02/11/2008 1:29 AMCopy HTML Reply to Dosk I can think of more than a few odd reasons people have been put out of church or merely threatened - i can also think of some typical ones that were executed in a bizzare fashion. There was a different kind of ex-communication my wife and I were put through. After being caught kissing we were allowed to fellowship but not allowed to talk to each other for 3 months. When the three months were up, we got caught again and given another 'sentence'. This actually caused us to see each other away from fellowship more often and ultimately we were told we had to marry to stay, and then put out of fellowship until we were married. During our engagement, we were not allowed to see each other without the presence of parents. Although it was a long time ago, I think we deserve a public apology from Queensland's 'Pastor' Brad Smith for this humiliation. www.Facebook.com - I recall being told to remove any friends from my friends list at this web address that were out of the church or who had display pictures that were considered to be inappropriate. Ha, hey... it's interesting to hear how the modern Revival centres are dealing with the on-line age we live in now. I love my facebook friends and it's a great way to keep up and communicated. Several of my friends on there are currently members of Revival Churches, which is weird. When i was 10 years old a new boy went to the pastor of our church and said i had been making fun of him... me being shy and introverted this was not a likely scenario and it was all apparently over a phrase that still haunts me "did you learn anythig today?". Anyhow i was put out of the church at 10 years of age for a period of a few weeks as punishment for my poor behaviour. That is sad and ridiculous... petty little men with ties. Weddings! - I was to be married in the church but to my annoyance i was told that members of my family could not attend the wedding as they were ex RCI. That's disgusting, and according to the conversations I've had with current members of RCI and RF, this is a belief they still hold onto and say amen to... the same people didn't think it was a 'culty' way to think. Pfftt... self-delusion much? My mother had also been put out at this time as she was too stubborn to ring up the pastor of our church and apologise for swearing at him. A church that runs on fear-mongering and dressed up threats. Nice. Church isn't really the right word. Instagram and Twitter: @mothpete
Didaktikon	Share to: #10
Rank：Noobmeister Score：421 Posts：13 From：Australia Register：29/08/2007 7:54 AM	Re：The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship Date Posted：02/11/2008 1:34 AMCopy HTML Miss Dosk, Well it sounds as if your life has had it's "three-score-and-ten" years' worth of tragedy compressed into a scant 22! Speaking as a Christian who is also a father to daughters, I'd offer this. There's not much that you can do about your past, but there is hope for the future ("hope" is one of those rather peculiar "theological" words, you see it's generally found in the midst of heartache and woe. Consequently, it's a beautiful word as it points towards redemption). For what it's worth, I reckon you're lucky on two fronts: first, that God promises to be a father to the fatherless. Second, that you're currently living a with a family who cares for you. I'm sure the "dad" of the house would be honoured to take on the mantle for you, if and when you need him to. Most fathers of daughters would, I imagine Anyway... Keep the chin up, it ain't all bad! Blessings, Ian email: didaktikon@gmail.com
Dosk	Share to: #11
Rank：Noobmeister Score：400 Posts：17 From：Australia Register：29/09/2008 3:09 AM	Re：The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship Date Posted：02/11/2008 1:38 AMCopy HTML You were kissing your future wife? How heathenistic of you. Actually up until very recently New Zealand was indulging in the whole no holding hands or kissing before marriage practice. There'd be no young people in the church if they tried to implement that today, and not to be stereotypically grotesque but you'd have to be awfully unfortunate looking to adhere to that. What you went through does sound quite horrible but it reminds me, i met my current partner on the internet, and i moved from Victoria to Brisbane to live with him but whilst i was dating him and still in RCI i attended a few Brisbane meetings and was quite frequently asked by a pastor there (who's name escapes me) if i was behaving myself. My best friend in the RCI started dating a boy form Melbourne and Pastor Simon gave them "the talk" when they went "official" (gotta love RCI terminology). Anyhow one of the most memorable things he said to my friends boyfriend was "If you've been fooling aorund, sotp it, keep the cocky in the cage". It seemed like a pretty laid back chat compared to the almost two hour long interrogation i got when i went "official". I wish i was where i used to be when i wanted to be what i am now.
Sea Urchin	Share to: #12
Rank：Poster Venti III Score：9110 Posts：436 From：Australia Register：15/02/2007 7:34 AM	Re：The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship Date Posted：02/11/2008 12:13 PMCopy HTML Dear Dosk You sound like a beautiful young woman, who, like many of us had the misfortune to have been involved with the RC. Just a quick word from an older (but not necessarily wiser) chook, don't EVER feel guilt or condemnation for anything you have EVER done in life. Every single one of us has done things in the past or made choices that we may not be proud of, but God looks on the heart, not on the outward appearance. He alone knows our innermost thoughts, he knew us before we were formed in our mother's womb. How He must love each and every one of his children - how amazing is that! Ian mentioned a beautiful word - hope. Hope for the future is a gift from God, he is a God of amazing grace and of unconditional and unending love for his children. Eph 1:18 May He enlighten the eyes of your mind so that you can see what hope his call holds for you... God bless you, Urch x x Your unfailing love, O Lord, is as vast as the heavens; your faithfulness reaches beyond the clouds. Your righteousness is like the mighty mountains, your justice like the ocean depths.
outaegypt	Share to: #13
Rank：Poster Venti I Score：6570 Posts：312 From：Unknown Register：22/06/2006 3:38 PM	Re：The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship Date Posted：03/11/2008 1:14 AMCopy HTML Dosk wrote: When i was 10 years old a new boy went to the pastor of our church and said i had been making fun of him... me being shy and introverted this was not a likely scenario and it was all apparently over a phrase that still haunts me "did you learn anythig today?". Anyhow i was put out of the church at 10 years of age for a period of a few weeks as punishment for my poor behavior. I woke up with this on my mind this morning.(Good Morning Dosk) I have a child similar age so it must of struck a chord within me. As adults my partner and I feel emotionally abused at times depleted from the dealings we have faced. My Partner a wonderful giving person, looked at me this morning and said I feel so abused that the confidence has been sucked out of me. This is a highly intelligent person,reliable, solid character, my partner is some one who has given above and beyond and would continue to do so if though it was to help someone. I've never in 20++ years of Marriage heard a bad word spoken of anyone by them, probably what I as a cynic would in retrospect see as a 'flaw' is the ability to see a bit of good in all. I tend to look for the bad bits first so I dont have to face nasty unsuspecting surprises, but in trying to be a more what I was told a Godly person I stopped listening to my gut Instinct. Now what troubled me through my disturbed sleep was if us as pretty solid characters feel the way we do, what hope have these kids got. I can go prior to RC and I have a reference point that gives me a solid ground to work back from. This example above is just out and out child abuse, what's worse than abuse of an adult is the abuse of a child. And on top of that the failing as a parent to protect a child- thats not meant in judgement but further evidence to the dominion held over folk that we fail to protect our young and let such absurdities be inflicted upon them. Don't worry I have my own issues of guilt concerning my own children to deal with. At times we may feel that we are caught on a ride we don't want to be on. We both pray that when we finally get off we will be in a better place and through it change and accountability to the people that are suppose to be being shepherded through exposure will take place. Proverbs 21:6 Getting treasures by a lying tongue Is the fleeting fantasy of those who seek death. 7 The violence of the wicked will destroy them Because they refuse to do justice. As I hear it, I'll repeat it, Its up to you if you believe it! Allegation big and small, soon revealed before us all. outa here- Outa Egypt!
Tarquin the Magnificent	Share to: #14
Rank：Rookier III Score：2060 Posts：88 From：Unknown Register：05/03/2007 5:24 AM	Re：The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship Date Posted：13/11/2008 11:08 AMCopy HTML Hello Everybody. This is an interesting thread, both funny and scary. In the sleepy South of England, way back when I were a lad, the old revival nonsense was doing it's usual rounds. One fellow and his new wife were removed from fellowship for having some "worldly" music at their wedding as the night drew on - some of the Revers had stayed to dance. The Worthing leader was in hospital when news of this transgression broke, and I had to break the news to this couple that they were "out". Congratulations on your wedding, you are now "out". I cringe in shame at the memory of doing this. A visiting couple from Australia were put out of fellowship everywhere on the planet, except Adelaide, which did them a heap of good as they were in Shoreham, UK. Their crime was trying to unite people in Worthing and trying to persuade our leader he needed to run a Sunday school for the bored kids and harrassed parents. They were absolutely villified during their time in the UK and never really got over it. There was talk, or rather gossip, crisis meetings, camp murmerings, accusations,....you name it, it became the ultimate drama. Naturally, as a true oversight, I did nothing really to help, despite the facts of the case. Subsequently I moved to Oz, and apologised to them. My parents were "put out" for challenging the "bad talk" that infected the place, and for questioning the leader who claimed he "never makes mistakes". Obviously then it was time for me to leave, but I managed to find enough excuses to hang around for another 7 years! A new friend was torn to shreds for wanting to go mountaineering. Many others wanting to return after being 'out" had to discuss things with senior "oversight". A guy at camp who was talking to a female camp employee was "rescued" by senior oversight who pulled him away. My brother was not allowed to drive 20 miles to the meeting with only his fiance in the car with him. A senior "oversight" in Australia will not be seen in the front seat of his car if his wife is driving in case people think he has been drinking!! And the dating policy!! Repeating myself I know, but I was 28, and asked a pastor if I could go out with a 27 year old! Marshmallow had replaced my normal brain. My brother was banned from starting a new romance because he went to see his new girl one day before his 3 month cooling off period had ended following a previous romance. They were not allowed to see each other for some months following this. These are just a few little droplets in a whole ocean of nonsense that I could easily recall. Any real crimes and transgressions here? Nope. But many of the above were huuuggggeee juicy events within the group. What do you see here, what does it all spell? R..E..V..I..V..A..L.....W..O..R..L..D.
Ex_Member	Share to: #15
Rank： Score：0 Posts：0 From：Unknown Register：21/09/2018 12:36 AM	Re：The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship Date Posted：15/12/2008 3:01 PMCopy HTML Reply to outaegypt (31/10/2008 20:10:56) Not all too long ago there was a new family come into an Assembly they had a teenage child that happily came to meetings and a regular attendance to youngies. Mum and Dad had had a S.I.T. experience but the teenager had not. S/He continued to happily attend youngies and then it came to the Youngies formal night where all get spiffed up and apparently all very exciting. The planning of the dresses and ties were all taking place, who was taking who and The Pastor bluntly told the Kid they couldn't attend they weren't Spirit Filled.... Nurturing and encouragement at it's very best!!!! pretty sure i remember that being rci on more than one occasion
outaegypt	Share to: #16
Rank：Poster Venti I Score：6570 Posts：312 From：Unknown Register：22/06/2006 3:38 PM	Re：The Funniest or Dubious reasons given to remove some one from the Fellowship Date Posted：24/04/2009 11:43 PMCopy HTML This would have to come under most Dubious reason......... to avoid further media attention; and when it dies down bring them back! A Spiritual reason would be a new phenomenom! As I hear it, I'll repeat it, Its up to you if you believe it! Allegation big and small, soon revealed before us all. outa here- Outa Egypt!