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Date Posted:31/01/2009 3:29 AMCopy HTML

        The Saturday feelings of dread as Sunday approached.

        Leaving a crying child at home with my husband as I drove off to the meeting.

        Because of the above, often coming up with an excuse why I should stay home instead.

        Feelings of guilt brought on by the above excuse.

   Realising that the best part of the meeting was the drive home to my family again.

       Singing loud and clapping hard to whip myself into a frenzy in order to listen to a talk that was  inadequate and unenlightening.


I intended this post to be amusing and entertaining. But I will cut it short for now as I realise each point above is very sad and almost humiliating for an adult of some sophistication to admit.

Maybe you can remind me of more lighthearted ones?

Chips



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Re:THE THINGS I DON'T MISS

Date Posted:31/01/2009 8:11 AMCopy HTML

Things I dont miss.....

..... having to smile graciously at some two faced  ignoramus that has tried to have a go at you and failed miserably only to have to endure and accept some miserable half hearted attempt at an  apology.
When all you really wanted to do was tell them to their face what a two face  ignoramus they are and to wake up to themselves.

Gosh we've put up with some idiots over the years!

Never again.
As I hear it, I'll repeat it, Its up to you if you believe it! Allegation big and small, soon revealed before us all. outa here- Outa Egypt!
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Date Posted:31/01/2009 9:33 AMCopy HTML

I don't miss having to constantly explain why I HAVE to go to work on a Friday night when I am rostered on and miss the housemeeting.

I don't miss having to try and swap shifts with work colleagues for Saturday prayer and fasts either.

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Date Posted:31/01/2009 11:23 AMCopy HTML

It's coming back to me now .... I don't miss the niggling doubts or waiting on someone else to operate the spiritual gifts. But most of all I don't miss the sense of failure, of not quite measuring up. I don't miss believing everyone else is wrong and wondering how that could possibly be!

So here's to freedom and soul searching and hours spent in learning in good company and walking to my local church tomorrow to hear a sermon about The Relevance of Christianity by a trained teacher.

Happy Sunday coming up, unhappy Sundays gone by.

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Re:THE THINGS I DON'T MISS

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Reply to outaegypt (31/01/2009 02:11:46)

Things I dont miss.....

..... having to smile graciously at some two faced  ignoramus that has tried to have a go at you and failed miserably only to have to endure and accept some miserable half hearted attempt at an  apology.
When all you really wanted to do was tell them to their face what a two face  ignoramus they are and to wake up to themselves.

Gosh we've put up with some idiots over the years!

Never again.

You got an apology, !!!   That's one up on the folk at Boxhill, Your rci must have been far more spiritual, where I was the knife was just temporarily retracted.
Since the split of 95 after that fabricated lie of a morals policy,  (I knew something wasn't right when defaulters where told they could still fellowship at other churches, with other brothers and sisters). 
Folk became so cold hard and insular, not trusting, not wanting to let others in, everyone afraid of getting close to other people in case they left. Knowing that they would not be allowed to contact them again.
I don't miss the control, I don't miss the cold uncaring unloving attitude of the oversight. I don't miss the safe boring talks. Every now and then a revelation comes and an exrci friend says "its OK your allowed to do that or its OK to visit other churches" then bang the revelation hits and until moments like that you really don't know how much they have subtly controlled you in your thinking and mindset.  There are so many cult like controlling attributes in that place its unbelievable. I don't miss being told I don't have a vision for God just because I missed a few meetings. My vision for God 100% my vision for an organisation started by men, the two don't bare comparison.

Ps keep up the good work on the GD stuff. Many of the small country assemblies are being kept in the dark about this, any one with friends family needs to email this stuff out to there Pasters, so they can be aware of the hypocosity in the organisation

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Re:THE THINGS I DON'T MISS

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Reply to spitchips (31/01/2009 05:23:22)

I don't miss believing everyone else is wrong and wondering how that could possibly be!

Happy Sunday coming up, unhappy Sundays gone by. 

Chips

AMEN SISTER CHIPPY,  AMEN


Hi Im_Out, 

Yes an Apology but definitely insincere through gritted teeth, the knife with that particular person was never fully removed it was always at the ready to attempt a little Jab. 
I dont think there were to many people that hadn't been in some sought of confrontation with them.
Very sad really, healing of past hurts never got fully dealt with. 
Giving hurt over is one thing letting it go is another.

Our past Pastors were/are so unequipped to truly shepherd, we thought ourselves to be so close to Christ but we were so far from reflecting Christ. 
A Form of Godliness denying the Power.
I as most would thought that power to be the Holy Spirit undeniably by the evidence of Tongues,
now I see that denying the power is not recognizing the greatest of these(powers) is love.
Any one can ramble in tongues if they so chose but how many can truly reflect Gods love, selfless, forgiving, compassionate, chastising in love, being the example of the Image of God - them's big boots to try to even fit, but little by little we will grow and there will always be plenty of room left in the toe....(heel,arch...) 


Re:Folk became so cold hard and insular, not trusting, not wanting to let others in, everyone afraid of getting close to other people in case they left. Knowing that they would not be allowed to contact them again.

That feeling went across all the assemblies, from what was Militant and controlling before came a hardness of heart of no compassion. Almost mechanical.
 Never more evident that the treatment of the Brothers and Sisters that have been persecuted, some even slandered by the oversight preferring Evil over truth.

OOE


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Re:THE THINGS I DON'T MISS

Date Posted:01/02/2009 4:35 AMCopy HTML

 You have hit the nail on the head there: having the form of Godliness but denying the power there of ::

That is RCI summed up nicely..


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Wasting so much of my precious time there.

Not  having to keep up appearances of being so thrilled to be at a meeting listening to another dreary mind numbing  talk.
Putting up with the hypocrisy  i.e one must not murmur about the oversight.Ah... if the members only knew  all  the gossip and self righteous critical judgements  that went down in oversight meetings. 
E
nduring the  many  idiots appointed to oversight.  They were always a few neurones short of rationality. As Dr Phil would say. Simon "What were you thinking"? 

The above idiots dispensing disastrous advice when they were totally untrained and inept in dealing with people.

The expectation that we should all aspire to  be a clone of the above idiots.   

Being told people were dead wood or had taken their eyes off the Lord  because they finally saw the light and left.

Never feeling spiritual enough  to  reach their unattainable standards.

Always being on guard and not trusting anyone

Seeing the appalling way people were treated in the name of the Lord.
Going to prayer and fasts devoted to increase the Assembly numbers. I never saw any new people as a result of it.


 

 

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Re:THE THINGS I DON'T MISS

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A lite 'n easy one :)

I don't miss hearing this item at camp. (sung to the tune of the song "How much is that doggy in the window?") Emphasised syllables in capital letters. Sing along with me now everyone...

How much is that BI-ble in the window?
The one thats the King James ver-SION...
How much is that BI-ble in the window?
I do hope that Bible's for sale!

(Complete with props and dress-ups)
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Reply to SintaxError (01/02/2009 05:59:40)

A lite 'n easy one :)

I don't miss hearing this item at camp. (sung to the tune of the song "How much is that doggy in the window?") Emphasised syllables in capital letters. Sing along with me now everyone...

How much is that BI-ble in the window?
The one thats the King James ver-SION...
How much is that BI-ble in the window?
I do hope that Bible's for sale!

(Complete with props and dress-ups)

I would just like to mention how blessed I feel to have never had to endure the bible song doggy (in the window)style.smiley16
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Hi Chips and all,

I am so pleased I don't have to sit through any more second Sunday meeting screen presentations, ESPECIALLY those evolution presentations by one, Pastor DW, on his once frequent visitations.  No fun staring for a long time at a picture of a cocoon dangling from a twig or the green mantis camouflaged in dewy green leaves, while Pastor DW went on and on and on in what was obviously his forte.  A quick exit was required afterwards to avoid having to respond with a sickly smile to the wide eyed and glowing "Wasn't Pastor D's presentation soooo good" or being tempted to say it was downright boring.

Epi

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Epi

You've reminded me of the time we were watching an animation slide of Moses holding back the sea. Really old, old drawings from maybe the 50's. The Pastor asked to explain who the guy with the staff was - derrr!!

I couldn't help myself - I called out 'Charlton Heston'. (Who else would have been chosen to portray Moses in epic films). The place erupted and nothing was taken very seriously afterwards. Poor dood presenting the slideshow lost control and gave up half way through.

Last Pastor D's presentation I saw (only LAST YEAR) fell a bit flat. No surprises there for us 'oldies' who'd been round the traps too long.

Chips
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Reply to spitchips (01/02/2009 17:50:51)

Epi

You've reminded me of the time we were watching an animation slide of Moses holding back the sea. Really old, old drawings from maybe the 50's. The Pastor asked to explain who the guy with the staff was - derrr!!

I couldn't help myself - I called out 'Charlton Heston'. (Who else would have been chosen to portray Moses in epic films). The place erupted and nothing was taken very seriously afterwards. Poor dood presenting the slideshow lost control and gave up half way through.

Last Pastor D's presentation I saw (only LAST YEAR) fell a bit flat. No surprises there for us 'oldies' who'd been round the traps too long.

Chips

Chips, 
Just adding a little more on Pastor D;  I remember in one of his away with the butterflies presentations he somehow digressed onto the subject of heaven and his expectation of how it would be.  He said his idea of heaven was to be knee deep in pavlova so that all he need do was to scoop a handful up into his mouth whenever he felt inclined.  Simple tastes - if you like pavlova that is.   

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Glenn Duker starring in those skits on how to give a good testimony. Four or more people  would take it in turn to  present a different style of  testimony.
Firstly there was the rambling monologue with useless  detailed trivia.
There would be one about how they had lived a hard life of drugs, alcohol etc came to the Lord then  fell away for a while and then came back
Another was full of the Assembly jargon e.g.  seekers meeting , in the tank, the Lord helped me through school,etc
And of course the  perfect  RCI one.
Finally a house leader  would tell us what was right or wrong with each one.

 

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        The Saturday feelings of dread as Sunday approached.

        Leaving a crying child at home with my husband as I drove off to the meeting.

        Because of the above, often coming up with an excuse why I should stay home instead.

        Feelings of guilt brought on by the above excuse.

   Realising that the best part of the meeting was the drive home to my family again.

       Singing loud and clapping hard to whip myself into a frenzy in order to listen to a talk that was  inadequate and unenlightening.


I intended this post to be amusing and entertaining. But I will cut it short for now as I realise each point above is very sad and almost humiliating for an adult of some sophistication to admit.

Maybe you can remind me of more lighthearted ones?

Chips



Chips,

I know exactly what you mean. I cant believe how great my weekends are with no "meeting" to attend.

My wife and like to throw in some RCI cliches every now and then (we both "grew up in the lord") we have our own rating scale  For eg: If we were to see someone having a drink, I might make mention of how "worldly" it is... that would wouldn't get many points but slipping into conversation something like... "Do you want to go out for dinner tonight?"... OKAY, "SHOULD THE LORD TARRY" that would incur double points....

Sometimes I think back on some of the sh1t we put up with at that place and it makes me cringe.. most of the time I am just so glad to be out... Some of my family still go so I get to hear plenty of what is still going on and it makes me laugh. When you are immersed in that culture it is amazing how totally abnormal things seem ok.

 



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Tommo

Yep - I can relate to your 'inside' jokes. We can turn a revival phrase around at any point in the day and get a laugh. "I have never heard whether there by any ......" in any conversation will get a laugh (even though this is at the expense of a real scripture). It's therapeutic to laugh at our old selves I believe. Better than getting angry and bitter.

Do you fellowship anywhere now? How long ago did you leave?

I keep putting off making  contact even with good friends from rf because I can hear the cliches before they're spoken, and I really don't want to hear the pity in their voices. To have to say I'm happier and more free and more content will be taken the wrong way, and so I never make the call.

Chips

 

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Our past Pastors were/are so unequipped to truly shepherd, we thought ourselves to be so close to Christ but we were so far from reflecting Christ.
A Form of Godliness denying the Power.
I as most would thought that power to be the Holy Spirit undeniably by the evidence of Tongues,
now I see that denying the power is not recognizing the greatest of these(powers) is love.
Any one can ramble in tongues if they so chose but how many can truly reflect Gods love, selfless, forgiving, compassionate, chastising in love, being the example of the Image of God - them's big boots to try to even fit, but little by little we will grow and there will always be plenty of room left in the toe....(heel,arch...) 


Brilliant! Just what I was looking for. Faithful Shadow
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I like that, this scripture really stood out after leaving, and put things into perspective.

1Co 13:1
If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.

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Yes, that scripture has been repeating itself in my head for a long time now. It is one of the key scriptures that challenges the RCI standards. FS
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