Last Sunday was the Box Hill Market aka the church fete when you are not having a church fete.

The sausage sizzle was run by RCI and the rest seemed to be external stall holders of the type that you see at most markets.

The weather was fairly ordinary and consequently the passing trade was non-existent.

Even the faithful did not seem to turn up until about 1PM, coincidentally the usual time for the first service.

A number of the stallholders that I spoke to were not happy about the lack of customers although the current economic climate must have had something to do with it.

The first service was scheduled for 2.30PM and the usual chants and testimonies started on time. It appears to the Mole that this is an optional part of the performance judging by the number of people that drifted in during the half hour.

I noted that in his testimony Pr Geoff Beggs referred to speaking in "other languages"

Simon was the main celebrant and he referred to "tongues" several times in his homily.

There were no baptisms and judging by the turnout at the fete/market no visitors at the service.

We may not see this function next year.

The Mole  

This Sunday, Paster Simon appears to be taking very much a back seat to the meetings now, just taking part in the odd communion. Geoff Beggs appears to be taking the main lead in running Sundays.  I have no doubt Simon is trying to distance himself almost as "head figure" of RCI due to the soon comming court proccedings. which begs to ask the question "how far with this go" I also know and can confirm that the "Follow the star" has along with the "Carols concert" have also been cancelled, and with the above fete being a total flop things are indeed looking drab for the place. 

Please keep us updated in the GD affair as there are many folk here showing a lot of interest in the proccedings.

This information only elaborates what a dysfunctional organization, that professes to have the true knowledge of God, can be. The bible is quite specific in it’s guidelines in matters of office and ministry of finances. A tree has to be good to bring forth good fruit. There has to be a sound knowledge of scripture, in which, sadly, Revivalist movements are lacking. Without correct knowledge there is no appropriate ground for faith to build upon.

brolga

On 22 March 2009 Mrs Mole reports that Simon is alleged to have said:

Last Monday morning he spent an hour on the phone talking to "that reporter" who included nothing that Simon told him in the segment. Simon said that it was not convenient to talk at the time as he was trying to prepare his talk for a funeral that day. (The Mole understands that the funeral took place at 11AM)

Simon then said that the Duker affair had nothing to do with RCI and was a matter between him (Duker) and his God.

Mole

And we will all soon find out !!

blessings

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"You should preach from the heart, scripture is not necessary you should feel lead."

I can go with that, I was annoyed with all the rubbish hypocrisy, etc etc etc, X 1000 so I prayed sincerely and the Lord led me OUT. We have never ever been happier but I regret saying as long as I did, as DR Phil says, "whats worse then being in a bad relationship (in this case the relationship between oneself and the church, not God "there is a difference !!") is being in it one day longer that you have to be.
 
After reading the above, if that doesn't make folk wake up, what will ???????    RCIers there is a life to had outside, I know so many including ourselves who have and many on this site who have

Oh another question if "this preaching from the heart" is OK ,
and "The bible is obsolete for today's preaching" does this mean that

A) The scriptures that supposedly supported the Morals policy and all the controlling rules and regulations ,(oops sorry I mean GUIDELINES)  are no longer relevant ??

B) If your heart tells you to let someone back into fellowship who has breached the Fornication or in fact any silly dogmatic authoritarian controlling policy, that's OK can they return?? 

If that's the case and if they are to move forward in this direction does that mean all the folk who have slipped up can then come back and the policy made obsolete???  

Or as they said in 95, "From this point forward" this will happen, so does that mean from "this point forward all those who give in to temptation are OK to stay in fellowship"?? but meanwhile they have destroyed and torn apart many many many families because of this fabricated policy which we know was politically based rather than scriptually. The other question is because your heart determines the Pastors direction will they then discriminate between cases??? I'm sure it will be one rule for oversight and one for the plebs as has been the case in the GD affair,  remember folk were put out for attending Amway meetings, not more that 20 years ago, my how things have changed.
You could go on for ever bringing up possibilities, and more hypocritical judgements but Ill stop there.

What Simon didn't say (or cause to be written)

The local area newspaper has a half page of advertisements from the mainstream denominations including the Salvos (great bunch the Salvos) announcing the times of the Easter services.

Most have Maundy Thursday, Good Friday and Ressurection Sunday services on offer and the Micks are throwing one in on Saturday night as well.

No mention of Revival Centre International or any other Pentecostal group for that matter.

Mole

Thks for the correction.

On reflection, as those in leadership positions undergo generational change, the leaders will lack the unconscious imbibing of Christian theology by their Rev forefathers in their pre-Rev churches. Or to put it more simply, those of LRL's era will have accepted certain aspects of theology b/c they were taught them in the churches of their childhood, but their offspring won't even have that to counter the Rev heresies and and act as part of their grid for interpreting the bible and "christianity". Thus, excepting of course the influence of the Spirit, I can now see the new generation of leaders are likely to come up with stuff even more whacky than the organisations' founders. Combine that with the arrogance and ignorance of some of them, dropping scripture as "their rule of faith" is plausisble (and has historical precedent with other groups). I wouldn't be surprised to even see dropping of things such as their (nominal) affirmng of God being triune (and yes I do recall "that" interview with LRL).

Let's hope that those "dissenters" you mention find what's needed to move to biblical orthodoxy. I'm too cynical to hope that the organisations' leaders will find what's needed to move that way, but I'd love to be proven wrong.