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Re:Rowan Williams

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Re:Rowan Williams

Date Posted:29/04/2011 7:06 AMCopy HTML

 

Eric,

I personally don’t go much for this type of music (just an old “stick in the mud” I guess) but at least the emphasis (lyrics) is on the Lord and not on 'I'...'I'...'I'..., as most of these songs are about today.

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Re:Rowan Williams

Date Posted:30/04/2011 5:39 AMCopy HTML

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Eric,

I personally don’t go much for this type of music (just an old “stick in the mud” I guess) but at least the emphasis (lyrics) is on the Lord and not on 'I'...'I'...'I'..., as most of these songs are about today.


In that case Ralph, here's another one for trying

Blessings


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Re:Rowan Williams

Date Posted:30/04/2011 7:45 AMCopy HTML

Eric,

 

I…yi yi yi I got….! Just because ‘I got’…  is that; what makes God  higher than any other, a healer, more powerful, greater, I think not.

 

I believe there is too much emphasis placed upon what we, as Christians, are supposed to receive from the Almighty and can be a bit delusional to what God’s intention for us how we should ‘worship’.

We all are sinners and will continue to sin regardless of what we may think of ourselves up on a high pedestal, being more powerful, and better than anyone else (I speak in terms of Revivalist thinking).

  

For sure, we are to worship God in “psalms, hymns and spiritual songs, singing and……….” giving praise and glory to Him and that is how it is meant to be, but ‘worship’ is all about God, not “ME/I”  Not about what God can do for us but what He has done for us through Jesus. When we pray and have communion giving thanks that He no longer imputes sin upon us, having faith and giving Him the glory that death has been conquered and because of the resurrection the possibility of the redemption of all things created, you and I included.

 

In today’s society it’s “All about Me!” attitude, and this produces lack of empathy and no consideration for the needs of others. Not the Christian position I’m afraid.

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Re:Rowan Williams

Date Posted:30/04/2011 8:54 AMCopy HTML

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Eric,

 

I…yi yi yi I got….! Just because ‘I got’…  is that; what makes God  higher than any other, a healer, more powerful, greater, I think not. <!--?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /-->

 

I believe there is too much emphasis placed upon what we, as Christians, are supposed to receive from the Almighty and can be a bit delusional to what God’s intention for us how we should ‘worship’.

We all are sinners and will continue to sin regardless of what we may think of ourselves up on a high pedestal, being more powerful, and better than anyone else (I speak in terms of Revivalist thinking).

  

For sure, we are to worship God in “psalms, hymns and spiritual songs, singing and……….” giving praise and glory to Him and that is how it is meant to be, but ‘worship’ is all about God, not “ME/I”  Not about what God can do for us but what He has done for us through Jesus. When we pray and have communion giving thanks that He no longer imputes sin upon us, having faith and giving Him the glory that death has been conquered and because of the resurrection the possibility of the redemption of all things created, you and I included.

 

In today’s society it’s “All about Me!” attitude, and this produces lack of empathy and no consideration for the needs of others. Not the Christian position I’m afraid.


Yes but the context is 'our' first person plural, not 'I' or 'me' first person singular .. and I think it fair that God belongs to His people because that is the element of covenant..

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Date Posted:30/04/2011 9:12 AMCopy HTML

Eric,

That may be so but isn't it fair to say a lot of this type of "worship music" does nothing more than cater for the entertainment of the flesh? Selah
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Re:Rowan Williams

Date Posted:30/04/2011 10:16 AMCopy HTML

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Eric,

That may be so but isn't it fair to say a lot of this type of "worship music" does nothing more than cater for the entertainment of the flesh? Selah
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Re:Rowan Williams

Date Posted:30/04/2011 12:33 PMCopy HTML

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Eric,

That may be so but isn't it fair to say a lot of this type of "worship music" does nothing more than cater for the entertainment of the flesh? Selah
Ralf
What would you know about the flesh?You now have a heart of stone.



Feelings, nothing more than feelings,
trying to forget my feelings of love.
Teardrops rolling down on my face,
trying to forget my feelings of love.



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Re:Rowan Williams

Date Posted:01/05/2011 3:30 AMCopy HTML

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Eric,

That may be so but isn't it fair to say a lot of this type of "worship music" does nothing more than cater for the entertainment of the flesh? Selah

That is VERY subjective.


Doesn't matter whether you sing new or old stuff at church.
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Re:Rowan Williams

Date Posted:01/05/2011 4:00 AMCopy HTML

Seems like you’ve missed my point entirely, the emphasis needs to be upon glory to the Lord and not entirely on ourselves so that we may “feel’ good. Go attend a service at an orthodox church and actually ‘listen’ to the words of the hymns that are sung, not so much the music. It is about God not us.

When there are lots of ‘I’s in the verses, I believe one is thinking of oneself too much and not placing their faith in God.

Hebrews11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

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Re:Rowan Williams

Date Posted:01/05/2011 10:26 AMCopy HTML

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Seems like you’ve missed my point entirely, the emphasis needs to be upon glory to the Lord and not entirely on ourselves so that we may “feel’ good. Go attend a service at an orthodox church and actually ‘listen’ to the words of the hymns that are sung, not so much the music. It is about God not us. <!--?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /-->

When there are lots of ‘I’s in the verses, I believe one is thinking of oneself too much and not placing their faith in God.

Hebrews11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

You have missed the POINT,WORSHIP songs,what has faith got to do with singing to God and Jesus and telling them how much you love them and and giving them praise?
Engaging your heart your with the Lord,but no you guys are too busy studying greek.
David danced before the Ark of the Covenant and was despised for it.Do you despise those who wish to Rejoice and praise God?
"feel"good,you are a dry old fart,
Php 4:4  Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I say, Rejoice!

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Re:Rowan Williams

Date Posted:01/05/2011 11:02 AMCopy HTML

So you are still willing to quote scripture and 'defend' Christians hey? even thou you confessed you're no longer one. Hypocrite.
 
You really are a sad case, at least we are still engaging as Christians can't say the same for you. All you seem to be hell bent on is calling people names.

( No need to respond any more as you will be ignored by at least me from now on. Complying to Moddy's request to ignore trolls.)


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Re:Rowan Williams

Date Posted:01/05/2011 2:14 PMCopy HTML

Isn't it true God knows our heart without making a big deal out of it?

This type more to my liking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoNmSytCQKU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtxmSAqMtDA&feature=related

and one for the road
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKmTdskCWPg&feature=related
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