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Yes the obvious answer is "all of them" but which ones could you really not stand... I see Jehovah Jireh has been given a dishonourable mention a few times elsewhere on the forum but for me the one that made me want to rip my ears off was Happy Happy Happy. Naturally we preferred to sing the unofficial alternative version but you had to keep your voice down and be careful about who was sitting nearby lest they faint at hearing the word "crappy".
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just some more,

 

expect a miracle every day.

Some Golden day break Jesus will come

S A V I O U R (each letter was sung out)

God is good to me oh what love I see

got any rivers you think are uncrossable, got any mountains you carnt tunnel through

his alive his alive his alive for ever more

have you a saviour like this saviour of mine

get them out look them gone all the little rabbits in the field of corn, envy ,jelousy malice and pride they must never in my heart abide.

jesus keep me as the apple of thine eye

something beautiful, something good

lifr high the banners of love "hallujah"

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How about more action songs

I will make you fishers of men 

Stop and let me tell you

when the gates swing wide on the other side

and then joy is a flag flown high from the castle of my heart,

 

ps hang there break free not all pento churchs are bad and there are also some great tradional churches out there, my wife went to a baptist church the other day and found it very powerful and moving,

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Re:Revival choruses you never want to hear again, ever.

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How about more action songsI will make you fishers of menStop and let me tell youwhen the gates swing wide on the other sideand then joy is a flag flown high from the castle of my heart,ps hang there break free not all pento churchs are bad and there are also some great tradional churches out there, my wife went to a baptist church the other day and found it very powerful and moving,earth5

you forgot father abraham- but maybe that was just a sunday school song...

i know not all pentcostal churches are bad, and im sure there are alot of good churches here in perth, i know my sister loves her church which is penticostal and the biggest church here in perth, ive been but i think its too big for me- very easy to get lost and i think that is the last thing i need. i think what i realy want is a smallish church with a realy good grounding in the scriptures (cause there is alot i need to relearn without the revival slant) i also want something that doesnt have 1 leader held up on a pedistool- i dont know sometimes i read how happy and excited you, sea urchin, set free and old holborn and it makes me realy sad that i dont have that- but i get freaked out by full on christians (there are certen catchphrases that make me die inside) and i dont think i could deal with more people who judge peoples godliness/spiritualness/christianness on a sliding scale who think you shouldnt have friends who dont go to the church, or there is something wrong if you dont want to do street evangelisum.

i want my kids to grow up with a relationship with god but also the freedom to grow, make mistakes ect. without having to worry about how they will be judged by the church or to feel they have to hide what they do from me (my sister and i grew up keeping so many secrets it isnt healthy and it can be dangerous)

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Re:Revival choruses you never want to hear again, ever.

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i dont know sometimes i read how happy and excited you, sea urchin, set free and old holborn and it makes me realy sad that i dont have that- but i get freaked out by full on christians (there are certen catchphrases that make me die inside) and i dont think i could deal with more people who judge peoples godliness/spiritualness/christianness on a sliding scale who think you shouldnt have friends who dont go to the church, or there is something wrong if you dont want to do street evangelisum.  i want my kids to grow up with a relationship with god but also the freedom to grow, make mistakes ect. without having to worry about how they will be judged by the church or to feel they have to hide what they do from me (my sister and i grew up keeping so many secrets it isnt healthy and it can be dangerous)________________________________________________________________________

Hi Break Free,  your post brought tears to my eyes when I read it. 

You are quite right - we should be able to  (1) have friends not in the church and also friends that go to other churches (2) not be made to feel we are 'unspiritual' if we don't want to go door-knocking/outreaching and ramming  OUR beleifs down people's throats  (3) we should NEVER be judged by the church we go to as that is only God's role (4) we should NEVER have to keep secrets or feel that we have to 'hide' things, and I could go on and on.

I heard a story in church the other day, it was about the prodigal son and how, when he returns we should put our arms around him and love him and tell him and show him HOW MUCH we unconditionally love him.  However, some churches don't do the above - they STONE the prodigal son.   (sound familiar?)

Break Free, I understand what you are saying about being wary of going somewhere else, but I can tell you one thing I have discovered and that is, there are some AWESOME churches out there that DO NOT judge, they wrap their arms around you and show you the way back to God.  Oops, here I go again - tears come to my eyes whenever I think about just how much Jesus loves us and wants us to draw close to Him so that He can bless us and hold us close to Him.  My heart is so full of God's love that I feel I am overflowing with it and just HAVE to pass it on to others. No longer do I have to say to people  ' you MUST speak in tongues to be saved' etc  -  now I just tell them of God's love and I understand that it is all about our personal relationship with Jesus Christ  that matters.

Rather than be seen to be 'preaching'  on the forum, you are more than welcome to email me (addess at the top) or PM me if you want to talk anytime. 

Jesus loves you BF

Love from Sea Urchin xx


 

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Reply to : break freei dont know sometimes i read how happy and excited you, sea urchin, set free and old holborn and it makes me realy sad that i dont have that- but i get freaked out by full on christians (there are certen catchphrases that make me die inside) and i dont think i could deal with more people who judge peoples godliness/spiritualness/christianness on a sliding scale who think you shouldnt have friends who dont go to the church, or there is something wrong if you dont want to do street evangelisum. i want my kids to grow up with a relationship with god but also the freedom to grow, make mistakes ect. without having to worry about how they will be judged by the church or to feel they have to hide what they do from me (my sister and i grew up keeping so many secrets it isnt healthy and it can be dangerous)_____________________________

Your so right little sea urchin, where I go is completely unjudgemental. When I told them our story we were treated  just like the prodigal son, or the lost sheep that had come home.  

 Yes we  hear what is right, that Jesus payed our debt, we're no longer under the law of sin and death, but not to hide our faults, but to be open and admit them, asking forgiveness, from Jesus, and it will always be given .

Yes we hear that we should strive for a good walk, and not give in to the flesh, but no one pretends they are perfect, or holier than thou.We all need the same help, and should pray for each other.

Yes we call on the Holy Spirit to strengthen and guide us, and believe that he does, because thats the promise.

No  we dont tell anyone they are unsaved because they dont speak in tongues

No we dont have ridiculous rules on dress, length of mens hair,  courting,  etc  no one keeps a tally of how many meetings, events outreaches etc you attend , or not. Alchohol is'nt regarded as a sin, only drunkeness. Smoking is'nt a sin, it's a bad habit.,  They just are'nt concerned about these things. But of course in the revival churches they are all  means of  control by putting feelings of guilt on people. We are encouraged to have friends outside the fellowship, we do so many things together with other christians that we are all friends and help each other, visit each others churches etc. This is normal, we dont criticise, or try to change their way of doing things, because we do things differently to them. or the other way round.

Is'nt it wonderful to be free to worship and praise the Lord without fear ,and .to have that personal relationship with Jesus without guilt layed on you. Wanting to get to every thing , looking forward to the next meeting to feel the love and the joy. not from a sense of duty, but because you want to be there . Thats how I was when \I first went along to Revival, but over the years it was eroded away by legalism, politics and poor leadership. Praise the Lord for leading me to this place.

Have a happy Easter  Day, God bless.

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Is'nt it wonderful to be free to worship and praise the Lord without fear ,and .to have that personal relationship with Jesus without guilt layed on you. Wanting to get to every thing , looking forward to the next meeting to feel the love and the joy. not from a sense of duty, but because you want to be there . Thats how I was when \I first went along to Revival, but over the years it was eroded away by legalism, politics and poor leadership. Praise the Lord for leading me to this place.


 

Hi Old H - WOULD YOU GUYS STOP IT!!!!  My eyes keep leaking when I hear of so many people lately who are getting so blessed.  I LOVE IT!  If only I'd know sooner of the freedom, the liberty, the absolute joy of being able to praise and worship because we WANT to do these things because we LOVE GOD so much.  You're quite right old H, there is no longer a sense of obligation of 'having' to attend meetings. These days I get all excited on a Sat night cos I know it will only be another 12 hrs till I get to go and join with hundreds of other like-minded people who all WANT to get together and praise our awesome God. The 'legalism, politics and poor leadership'  sums it up really well.  Under the leadership we have now, we are all growing spiritually in leaps and bounds - I realise now that God doesn't want us to stay in a time warp as in RF where nothing changes and 'traditions of man' abound. They let fear of change hold them back from receiving God's blessings but they just can't see it.

Happy Easter to you and the mrs, old H - may you be forever blessed by the Lord,

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Hey Break free, understand your fear, please dont let this hold you back, satan really wants to keep us in a place of fear. Use the caution you may have though, there are some very safe places out there, go have a look, and God will lead you to the place that is right for you and your wonderful children. A place that is safe and secure a place of love and not judgment a place where you can meet the God who LOVES YOU break free because you are worthy of his love and you are worthy of his sacrafice on the cross, please know that I and Im sure others like sea urchin and Old H, set free are praying for you and will continue to keep you in my prayers.

Be Blessed

 

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just some more lol

have you been filled with the holy ghost and power, is Jesus real to your heart and life this hour?

Count your blessings name them one by one,

Cover me Cover me extend the borders of your mantel over me eeeee e.

The Windows os heaven are oprn the blessings are falling tonight

its the later rain its the later rain, its the later rain revival in me.

Dont stop praying the lord is nigh dont stop praying he'll hear your cry

reach our and touch the lord as he passes by.

 

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Hi Mailboy, well Im sure you would expect a "what the" response, however I will say again we are all part of the body and each part of that body has its function and place.

Hillsong is not for everyone and neither do they expect it to be, when songs of praise was all the rage the old elim song book people thought that this songs of praise wah an outrage and the good old hymnal singers thought that the elim song book songs where an outrage an thus it goes on.

I love some of the old hymnals and songs of praise and hillsong music. Mailboy it comes down to flavour , I have learnt awhile ago because it is not my "flavour" does not make it wrong its about what gets you me otheres into a place where we can allow God to come into our lives and meet with us there in the place of worship, where we can come as inderviduals and as a church before the throne room of God and bless his holy name and Glorify him.

If you dont like hillsong style of music dont go there, find a place to fellowship where they have a similair heart as you in the end its about the fruit what is the fruit of the music,is it leading people into a deeper realtionship with God if so dont condem it appreciatte that it is doing that as much as the music the you enjoy does for you, I rejoice with you that you love this music and i ask that you allow othes to do the same

 

God Bless

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$%*'`[Mojo]%*'`@

I just never want to clap again in my whole entire life

No clapping

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Hillsong obviously think God is deaf. I am perplexed as to why the music has to be so loud and we have to "Shout unto the Lord". Couldn't we sing in a normal voice, and hope by now God in His omnipotence has now created for himself a hearing aide?Don't get me wrong I grew up loving Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Elvis (before he started wearing Liberace's clothes and imitating the Michelin Man) and of course the Beatles etc. All very, very, loud. But imagine ballads of Simon and Garfunkel, songs with a story, being shouted. Ridiculous!We had all the banal songs from the Revival Centres, despite believing we were spiritually superior to them (I am ex Pentecost Revival Centre, the fanatic loonies, who made the Revival Centre loonies etclook tame).However having been a Prodigal for many years, I was disappointed that all the "Scripture In

Hi MB, I think I see where youre coming from, I do think there is a danger of the music becoming too important, of people forgetting their first love and transferring it to what is entertaining. Theres alot of power and influence in music, people can get carried away by the beauty of harmonious sounds, or worked up into a frenzy by others. It happens all the time in the world of Pop music, with all the swooning  and screaming etc. Theres also the tendency to make idols of the musicians, and singers, following them rather than Jesus.

Having said that  music has always played an imporant part in our worship,in our praise, and without it  church services would be very dull indeed, and more of us would likely doze off through sheer fatigue. The trouble is, there are so many styles, and fashions in music, While Jesus is the same today and for always, music styles change all the time,not always for the better if your an old fart like me. I think we should always have a good mixture of old and new otherwise theres a danger of the music becoming devisive, with Churches full of either old farts, or young trendies, and I dont think that would be a good thing. I cant comment about Hillsong, never having gone to one.

Myself, I'm happy to stand up and sing praises to God, and \I can do that  more easily if  its old familiar stuff, and the words are uplifting. ( and if the dear old pianist/ organist in our church is familiar with it )  If we only go to a place because the musics great, maybe we should think about that, it should'nt be all about music and entertainment .

\On the other hand , providing you are being fed with the word, and the Spirit is moving there , enjoy the music, and be entertained, we have that choice now  Praise God. Maybe we should swop meetings say once a month, so that we dont get in a rut, and learn to appreciate every kind of praise singing and worship. Wakka Wakka 





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Hi, Mailboy.

I tend to agree. There's not a whole lot about 'Hillsong' that personally does very much for me (music wise or teaching wise).

It never ceases to amaze me that most people will forget even the main point of a sermon one week later, but can somehow remember the words to a new chorus a good many years after first hearing it. The disappointing thing from my perspective, is that a fair bit of what's presented in 'Hillsong' music is absolute rubbish theologically, but most Christians don't even seem to notice. It almost seems to be the case that a 'catchy' tune will cover a multitude of 'sins'

Anyway...

When it gets down to 'brass tacks' worship isn't about emotions, it's not about being entertained and it has very little to do with us 'feeling good'. Worship, biblically speaking, is wholly about rendering due service to God whether we feel like it at the time or not. Sadly, I think a good many people tend to miss this fundamental aspect of what it is that we're supposed to be doing, most likely due to the all-pervasive influence of 'pop' culture. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being emotional in worship, but there's quite a bit wrong with equating emotion as a 'value' indicator to the worth of worship.

God bless,

Ian
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Sott you have an amazing ability to make every thread you enter depressing.

Not every topic needs to become a theological debate, surely?

Sorry if i've come across as too harsh, i just wish you could talk about uplifting things sometimes rather than all doom and gloom and be argumentative.

I know you must be a nice person, and surely you're not always like this in reality. Why don't you talk about more good stuff on here? I know you can do it, it must be in you somewhere.
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Hi, 'Set Free'.

Sott you have an amazing ability to make every thread you enter depressing.

Hows that? Is my penchant for seeking out the biblical teaching of a given matter inherently depressing? I always thought it was the truth which is what sets us free

Not every topic needs to become a theological debate, surely?

What debate? Am I not allowed to present my own personal opinions and views here because they might happen to differ from yours? Well, I hope not. The fact is that I exercise my freedom of choice when I choose to inject certain of my views here. And I do so because I sometimes sit back in my ivory tower and watch the odd person or two occasionally leap from one particular error straight into another

Sorry if i've come across as too harsh, i just wish you could talk about uplifting things sometimes rather than all doom and gloom and be argumentative.

So it's all 'doom-and-gloom' with me, huh?

I know you must be a nice person, and surely you're not always like this in reality. Why don't you talk about more good stuff on here? I know you can do it, it must be in you somewhere.

Good stuff? Well, I thought this was some of the good stuff! I hope you'll excuse me, but me agreeing with any and all kinds of weird and wonderful personal opinions aired herein because that's the 'nice' (or 'expected') thing to do here just ain't my bag (and nor is it why I was invited here). In any case, you're more than welcome to exercise your own right to choose by (a) ignoring what I have to say, or (b) disagreeing with what I say. But please, don't expect me to conform to your views and thinking should I find either to be lacking in any sort of biblical support or warrant. I've not been a Revivalist for many moons now, and I've no intention of resurrecting that particular mindset again in the near future

Blessings, youward.

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Predictably you gave me the line for line argumentative response as always - at least you didn't dissapoint.

I TOTALLY understand that you want to stand for the truth - I completely know where you're coming from, I've gotten in trouble before too for not keeping my mouth shut, I get TOO passionate about things sometimes. I guess I just disagree with your methods of communication on this forum and wanted to let you know how you come across. I was actually coming on here just now to remove the post and tell you in a PM however coz I realised it was innapropriate for me to voice my opnions in public. Sorry about that.

I realise that you are definitely free to voice your opinions - I just don't agree with all of them, which I guess is ok isn't it, coz I'm sure you're not asking everyone to be the same.

I'm not interested in arguing sott so lets just leave it at that ok? Please? I've said I'm sorry and I really don't want a step-by-step line-by-line response picking everything I say to pieces. You may have noticed I'm not as eloquent or well-educated as some, I'm only young ya know! I would like to remain friendly if possible.
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Hillsong obviously think God is deaf. I am perplexed as to why the music has to be so loud and we have to "Shout unto the Lord". Couldn't we sing in a normal voice, and hope by now God in His omnipotence has now created for himself a hearing aide?Don't get me wrong I grew up loving Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Elvis (before he started wearing Liberace's clothes and imitating the Michelin Man) and of course the Beatles etc. All very, very, loud. But imagine ballads of Simon and Garfunkel, songs with a story, being shouted. Ridiculous!We had all the banal songs from the Revival Centres, despite believing we were spiritually superior to them (I am ex Pentecost Revival Centre, the fanatic loonies, who made the Revival Centre loonies etclook tame).However having been a Prodigal for many years, I was disappointed that all the "Scripture In

I dont know whether this is worth metioning or not as I know that people have every right to their own personal opinions and preferneces

BUT ... Recently I was at the Hillsong Colour Womens Conference (which I try to get to evey year) and was very moved by something that Darlene mentioned (and I will say 'metioned' as it wasnt like she was preaching or anything at the time). She said that recently she went through a time when she felt a bit 'deflated' by the label that Hillsong had of being the "Singing Church". She said she was stirring on the inside, wanting to be so much more than just about music. With nations and generations being killed off by disease and poverty, with so much injustice still in the world, she found herself crying out to God about these things. It was in prayer that God said to her that BECAUSE of their music, they now have so much influence in the world, they have the ability to go into places where others may not be able to to.  God urged her to now connect the music with the plight of humanity. It was then that Darlene said it all just clicked, all the music so far has been a small part of Gods plan for much bigger future.

You know, we can critisise their music and challenge them about the 'biblical content' and so on (although I have to say that I find that a lot of their songs come straight from scripture, it is probably more the musical style that people dont like) but I think we have to see beyond that. Who are we to say what God's plan is for Hillsong in this area. God sees a much bigger picture than we do (thank goodness for that) and if their music is a vehicle to bring change and hope ... and dare I say it ..... financial help into areas that we only see or read about on the news, then I say AMEN!

We all acknowledge that we are one body with many different parts - YET we still wish the we were all 'feet' or whatever. Just like anyone else, I can go to a place like Hillsong  and sit and critise their music, preaching etc. or I can go in with an open heart that is ready to except people/churches for their uniquness and their special journey that God has them on. I can go back to my own church afterwards and say things like "They don't do this right, they ar totally off the track in that area", or I can take home a piece of something special that I got while I was there - the message that      "It is sooooo much than about just little old me ...... it is about a Fathers heart that is breaking over a lost and broken generation"

Like I said before, just my opinion, thats all.

Take Care

 

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Ladies,

I think I'm on record somewhere on this site, for stating that worship styles are, bye-and-large, cultural constructs. That sort of puts my recent comment into its proper perspective, doesn't it? Further, I qualified what I had to say by very clearly indicating that 'Hillsongs' didn't do much for me. I nowhere said that what they did was "of the divel" (in my best Scots Presbyterian accent)

Now you two bonny lasses (there's that Scots Presbyterian thing-ie happening again) clearly get something out of what 'Hillsongs' does, whereas all that I seem to get out of 'em is gas! So I say, "more power to you!"

Blessings,

Ian
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any of you guys remember "Central's never busy" or "The shepherd's footsteps"[isgusted;]
I was always amused to sing " living on the shore I'm living on the shore I'm Living where the healing waters flow " followed by that other great hymn " launch out into the deep, launch out launch out in the ocean divine". Man I used to get confused. I actually picture a Gilbert and Sullivan type of scene with half the church singinging  'lauch out launch out" and the other half of the church facing the first group responding with " Im living on the shore I'm living on the shore" and back and forth and so on. Aaaagh sorry sick mind. Years of rf you know !
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 I don't care if I never see another little blue book again!!!!  my favourite chorus to hate was The King and I for it's scriptural inaccuracies it annoyed me so much that when I got my chance I tore the sheet music out of the book and threw away the slide with much ceremony !!   never never again (((((shudder)))))) oooohhh
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Has anyone heard a talk given at the Edge church in adelaide regarding worship? it is amazing. The original hebrew has about a dozen words for praise. one of which means all shout to God at once !! (like at Jerricho) it signifies God's power and that He should be praised like this..  God is not deaf but loud is a type of praise. Cool huh?
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Hi, Xplod.

Has anyone heard a talk given at the Edge church in adelaide regarding worship? it is amazing. The original hebrew has about a dozen words for praise. one of which means all shout to God at once !! (like at Jerricho) it signifies God's power and that He should be praised like this.. God is not deaf but loud is a type of praise. Cool huh?

Well, it probably pays to be just a little cautious when assuming the 'meaning' of specific Hebrew words, and certainly so if one hasn't first checked the particular contexts in which they appear within Scripture (and, of course, it probably helps if one actually understands Hebrew to begin with when making pronouncements of this sort). Consider, the Israelites were also 'praising/worshipping' God when they put to death their enemies by the sword! Should do that as well?

Blessings,

Ian
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Reply to : xplodHi, Xplod.Has anyone heard a talk given at the Edge church in adelaide regarding worship? it is amazing. The original hebrew has about a dozen words for praise. one of which means all shout to God at once !! (like at Jerricho) it signifies God's power and that He should be praised like this.. God is not deaf but loud is a type of praise. Cool huh?Well, it probably pays to bejust a little cautiouswhen assuming the 'meaning' of specific Hebrew words, and certainly so if onehasn'tfirst checked the particularcontextsin which they appear within Scripture (and, of course, it probably helps if oneactually understandsHebrew to begin with when making pronouncements of this sort). Consider, the Israelites were also'praising/worshipping'God when they put to death their enemies by the sword! Should do
yeah ian I think that would be appropriate. somehow as I behead my enemies, singing seems just right somehow............... enlighten us as to the true meaning of praise???
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Hey, Xplod.

yeah ian I think that would be appropriate. somehow as I behead my enemies, singing seems just right somehow............... enlighten us as to the true meaning of praise???

I'll give you a little hint: biblical 'praise' (which is a concept) doesn't equal 'singing'

Blessings,

Ian
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Are we to Praise the Lord?

Praise, mostly of God, is a frequent theme in the psalms, the Hebrew title of which is "Praises" Yet praise is a theme that pervades the whole of scripture, Genesis 1 is indirect praise: direct praise is found in hymns scattered throught the books of Exodus, 2 Samuel, Isaiah, Daniel, Ephesians, and Revelation.  Words that are often used as synonyms or in parallel with "praise" and so help point to its meaning, are "bless", "exault", "extol," "glorify," "magnify." "thank," and "confess." To praise god is to call attention to his glory.

Prasing God is a God appointed calling. Indeed, God has formed for himself a people "that they may proclaim my (Gods) praise" (Isa. 43.21, Jer 13:11) Gods actions, such as Israel's restoration from the exile, are to result in God's "righteousness and praise springing up before all nations"

In the light of this calling to praise God, the often declared intention, "I will praise you O God" and the exhortations for others to praise God take on additional meaning. In giving oneself to praise the worshiper declares his or her total alignment with God's purposes. The environment of those gathering for worship, judged by such admonitions, was one of lavish praise to God. Since God is holy and fully good, God is not to be faulted, as some do, for requiring praise of himself. Praise is fitting for what is the highest good, God himself.  Praise is both a duty and a delight (Pslam 63; 3-8)

REASONS FOR PRAISING GOD,

In addition to being the fulfillment of a calling, praise is prompted by other considerations, chief of which is the unique nature of God (1 Chron, 29;10-13) One genre of the psalms, the hymns, is characterized by an initial summons, such as 'Praise the Lord" which is followed by a declaration of praise, introduced by the word "for," which lists the grounds for offering praise, often God's majesty and mercy. The shortest psalm (117) a hyumn, offers a double reason for praise; often God's merciful kindness (loyal love) is great, and his truth endures forever" Other hymns point out that God is good (Ezra 3;10-11; Pss, 100;5; 135;3) or that his ordinances are just  Ps,119:164) , that he remembers his covennat (Ps105:7-8), that his love is enduring (Ps,136), or that he is incomparable (Ps,71;19), A basic understanding in the hymns, if not in all the psalms, is captured in the theme. "THE LORD REIGNS"  Gods kingship is pronounced both in his majestic power displayed through the creation of the world (Pss, 29, 104) and in his royal rule, often as deliverer, over his people (Pss 47, 68, 98, 114) As king, God is judge, warrior, and shepherd.

Unquestionably the Book of the Psalms is centerpiece for any discussion about praise, In it the believer's vocation to praise is wonderfully modeled, so that even laments (one third of all the psalms) contain elements of praise. As a book of praises, the psalms build to a remarkable crescendo of praise (Pss 145-150) in which all creatures are summoned to incessant praise of God, as are the stars and planets in the heavens, and even the angels.

 

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That's cool, SU can probably hook me up with the disc set, plus i've just completed both the full length DNA and the Express DNA (DNA packed into one day aimed specifically at volunteers) courses. I'll see if it says anything about it in the manual.

Problem is that every different class is different from any before it, especially when there are different people presenting it.

Hey Sott - here's a concept for ya - praise and worship is not just singing (in that part you were right) it is how we live our entire lives to God. Following Jesus is worship, going to work is worship, singing praises to God from your heart is worship, keeping yourself pure from the world is worship..etc..

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Brian D. McClaren (paraphresed)

Heal my heart and make it clean
Open up my eyes to the things unseen
Show me how to love like You have loved me
Break my heart for what breaks Yours
Everything I am for Your Kingdom"s cause
As I walk from earth into eternity
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Hi, Set Free.

Hey Sott - here's a concept for ya - praise and worship is not just singing (in that part you were right) it is how we live our entire lives to God. Following Jesus is worship, going to work is worship, singing praises to God from your heart is worship, keeping yourself pure from the world is worship..etc..

Yep. What you've said is SPOT ON, and the very point that I wanted Xplod and others to grasp!

Blessings,

Ian
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YAY!! A spiritual comment that wasn't pulled to pieces theologically for once!

*spins around in office chair doing a little dance*
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Brian D. McClaren (paraphresed)

Heal my heart and make it clean
Open up my eyes to the things unseen
Show me how to love like You have loved me
Break my heart for what breaks Yours
Everything I am for Your Kingdom"s cause
As I walk from earth into eternity
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Hi, Set Free.

YAY!! A spiritual comment that wasn't pulled to pieces theologically for once!*spins around in office chair doing a little dance*

Well, I didn't have to because you got this one correct

Blessings,

Ian
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settle down mailboy

i think you may have misjudged me. I'm not all that bad.
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Brian D. McClaren (paraphresed)

Heal my heart and make it clean
Open up my eyes to the things unseen
Show me how to love like You have loved me
Break my heart for what breaks Yours
Everything I am for Your Kingdom"s cause
As I walk from earth into eternity
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Set Free,

settle down mailboyi think you may have misjudged me. I'm not all that bad.

Pot, this is kettle...black, over.

Blessings,

Ian
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Weve got  great big wonderful God "hallelujah" great big wonderful God,

Jesus Christ of nazereth walked by the sea, he saw some men a fishing there and said come follow me ( to puff the magic dragon)

Some  bodies here and I know it is jesus, somebodies here and I know it is the Lord

I' ll never be the same again oh no, oh no no no no no

come bless the Lord, all ye servants of the Lord.

running over running over my cup is full of running over,

HEY who remembers the band from melbourne "creation" I  think was there name had Peter De Monk and some of the Longfield and Vanderstadt family very spunky girls from memory.

 

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to Mailboy

Tammy,

Jesus my savouir looked down from above watching ,waiting, looking with love  / this is the one you meant Oh yes i remember it well

Puff

Jesus christ of nazareth walked by the sea,

 he saw some men a fishing there and said come follow me

they left there nets and followed, disiples they became,

they healed the blind the lame the sick the dumb the deaf the maimed

Oh, Jesus Christ of Nazereth repeat above

 there may be more will need to find an old book, this is from memory so not bad for an old fellow

 

earth5 

 

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Every time we sang "The Lion of Judha", I could hear Bing Crosby singing "the Bells of St. Marys" Really spoilt it for me. I prefered BIngs version LOL
"But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord "
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Reply to : old holbornEvery time we sang "The Lion of Judha", I could hear Bing Crosby singing "the Bells of St. Marys" Really spoilt it for me. I prefered BIngs version LOLNow everyone join in and sing to the tune of "The Green Grass of Home"Old Holborn I feel your painAs I remember once againBeing asked to sing those songs, by some deluded pastorDown the aisle came the men, with their tithe bag waivingsInto them went my savingsIt was no good, to be touched by Pentecostal con-menYes they all loved to see me,Licking all their lips so greedy,It was no good, to be touched by Pentecostal con-men


ROTFL
Con men is right ,

 You've got me at it now, sing this to " Ive been a wild rover"

I'd been in Revival for many a year, not mising the drinking of whiskey and beer,Cussing and swearing just  went by the board, I was happy and full of the joy of the Lord

But now I'm an outcast, and judged to be damned, for ignoring their legalist extreme demand.

And it's no, nay. never, no nay never no more, will l  bow to Revival, no never , no more

The henious sin that I chose to commit, was neither blaspheming , nor gainst Holy Writ, But a habit no worse than say , excess of food, but was ruled a no no in that legalist brood.

                                    My imperfection could not be allowed, twas fouling the Temple they swore and avowed,Yet did'nt our saviour say this didn'mean, it's what goes in our mouths that makes us unclean,

                               Chorus 

Now once more I'm happy,and so full of joy,and no one is judging this wandering boy, I roll my Old Holborn tis my great delight, and I/m praising the Lord now with all of my might. To all you revivalers still  under the law, come out and be free now, just walk out the door.

                          Final chorus.

Blessings



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Hey old H, I didn't know you had it in you -  - only problem is that I can't get the tune out of my head now, keep whistling it at work LOL.  

Isn't is absolutely amazing & liberating that we now understand God's love and do not have to fear judgement of men any longer. I was saying to some friends who all left same time as me, that I feel so blessed and privelged that God saw fit to 'transplant' us - he just picked us up and put us down in a fantastic church where God's love rules. I have finally found an incredible personal relationship with Jesus that I just didn't have in all my 24 yrs in RF.  Maybe I should have posted this in the Empowerment thread? So, I'll finish with a 'chorus' so I don't get into trouble for going off topic..

A chorus I NEVER want to hear again -  do you know 'Happy Happy Happy'? At RF we would sing it not all that happily and a lot of us sang our own version,

'appy, 'appy, 'appy,

'appy in the Lord

praise God I'm bored (born) again

sleeping (trusting in His) through the word

I want you to know

how 'appy I am (now the meeting's nearly finished)

cos I am 'appy, 'appy, 'appy in the Lord

 

 

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Reply to : old holbornHey old H, I didn't know you had it in you -- only problem is that I can't get the tune out of my head now, keep whistling it at work LOL.Isn't is absolutely amazing & liberatingthat we nowunderstandGod's love and do not have to fear judgement of men any longer. I was saying to some friends who all left same time as me, that I feel so blessed and privelged that God saw fit to 'transplant'us - he just picked us up and put us down in a fantastic church where God'slove rules. I have finally found an incredible personal relationship with Jesus that I just didn't have in all my 24 yrs in RF. Maybe I should have posted this in the Empowerment thread? So, I'll finish with a 'chorus' so I don't get into troubl

Or..

Sappy sappy sappy
Lukewarm in the Lord
Praise god but not too much
KJV is the only annointed word
I want you to know
How lukewarm I am
For I am sappy, sappy, sappy
Don’t praise the Lord

Or to the tune of Sing unto the Lord a New Song (and yet they never do - apparently only music on the 50's was blessed)

Sing a boring song with one line
Sing a boring song with one line
Sing a boring song with one line
Sing a boring song with one line

The Line is great, and greatly to be praised
The Line is great, and greatly to be praised 

Sing a boring song with one line
Sing a boring song with one line
Sing a boring song with one line
Sing a boring song with one line

 

I know mine aren't as good as some of the others on here, it's just the way we used to sing them at chorus time. I don't know any of the people or songs you've talked about (except puff the magic dragon) and I dunno if you guys would really recognise much of the secular stuff i like, so that's as good as it's gonna get.

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Brian D. McClaren (paraphresed)

Heal my heart and make it clean
Open up my eyes to the things unseen
Show me how to love like You have loved me
Break my heart for what breaks Yours
Everything I am for Your Kingdom"s cause
As I walk from earth into eternity
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We hear the hevens ringing, ten thousand voices singing

All saints and angels bringing praises to Go,oo ,oo,ood,

 

I want to sing I want to dance I want to clap my hands and shout, for he filled me with his holy ghost and set me on fire with love, mighty love

 

God is good to me oh what love I see,

 

 

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Old Holborn
... Hey that's very clever!  I like what you've done... maybe this could be a new career for you!
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Hi Miss Indy girl,

Just for the record, we haven't heard from Old H for a very long time now, in case you think he's being rude & not replying to you. Last I heard though he was doing real good & is in fellowship in a good church over in the UK.

Personally I can't think of anything worse than some of those choruses we used to sing - man, were they bad! And the poor old chorus leaders would try everything to get people enthusiastic but nothing really worked. I mean, how enthusiastic can you get about the same songs sung over and over and over and over and over.........

Heard a talk (about a month before we left) about WHY we had to have simple choruses and simple tunes. Apparently it was because then we'd remember them and the tunes would stick in our heads (cos they were more like little ditties or jingles). He also said something about kindy kids and how they really remember the repetitive stuff better.
Pretty insulting actually!!

Catchya, Urch
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Hi Urch and Indy,

Reading this section again has just brought back some frightful memories.  At one of the house meetings soon after joining the then RCI two of the first choruses I heard were :-
     Then shall the virgin rejoice in the dance,
     both young men and old together.
     La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la.
     etc.

This was followed by everyone standing up and singing, with the actions,
       "I want to (wanna) be a channel"
Some of the ladies giggled all the way through and everyone present had big, broad, funny smiles on their faces.

At a later house meeting I (and family) encountered another shocker "It's bubbling, it's bubbling"  I had never heard anything like any of these before - ever.  I wish we had decided then and there that this was definitely not our scene and left, never to return.  Have never felt comfortable about singing any of these three crazy choruses.

God Bless.

Epi 
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Wow.  This is a great and terrible thread.  Great because it's nice to know i wasn't the only one suffering in silence and terrible because at least half a dozen songs i never wanted to hear again are reverberating around the walls of my skull.

I was in a rural assembly and we still sang out of old red hymn books when city groups seemed to have new fancy choruses.  Ones with revolutionary beats that strayed from the old double clap.  I really disliked any song that just required double clapping.

The horrors i would like to add to the above ones (and forgive me because i didn't read them all) are:

*The Windows of Heaven are Open (double clap)
*Lets talk about Jesus - now this was a convention theme song a long time ago and if anyone remembers it you'll also recall that it has fifty million versus, everytime someone requested this song i wanted to cut their wrists and then mine.
*The Shepherds Footsteps - I think my main dislike for this song derives from memories of the facial expressions of those around me who clearly struggled to reach the higher notes.  And if you don't mind me saying, alot of those songs went places most peoples vocal chords couldn't follow...unfortunately that never stopped people from trying.
*Let the sun shine in - ahhh yes "let the sun shine in, face it with a grin, smilers never lose and frowners never win, so let the sun shine in, open up your heart and let the sun shine innnnn" totally scriptural and relevant.

Sometimes i made up actions to songs to make them more interesting, perhaps when i finish my uni exams i'll make it my holiday project to youtube a video of the following song.  I have become quite adept at conveying its meaning through means of interpretive dance much to the delight of my sister and her children (who left RCI to attend RF).

In the stars his handi-work i see
On the winds he speaks of majesty,
Though he ruleth over land and seaaaa
What is that to meeee
Until oneday i saw him face to face (woah-woah)
and i sought the wonder of his grace (woah-woah)
and i knew that there was more than just a god who didn't care
Who lived way up thereeeeeeee.....AND i am going to stop now.

I was getting all excited and uplifted.

I wish i was where i used to be when i wanted to be what i am now.
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 Hey thanks dosk, forgot about that one ------shudder---------


get them out, look them gone, all the little rabbits in the field of corn,
envy, jealously malice and pride, they must never in my heart abide.


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  • The reason the chorus sessions were so pathetic in the meetings is because they were 1000s of miles away from even comprehending the joy of the Spirit. They are in bondage to the traditions/legalities and formalities of TRF Euro 'super leader PP' who gave a very large mis-truth on the subject of 'love' at the England camp 2008.

    I am finally free from that bondage and will be rejoicing in a meeting tomorrow that is full of God's power.

    The worst songs are pretty much all of them, but a few do stand out.

    'Stop and let me tell you'

    'I'm singing Lord, Lord, Lord, you have been so good to me' (Mirror breaker!)

    'Victory, victory shall be mine' (monotonous and morbid)

    'Well ,you've heard of little David' (EEEKKK)

    As it happens, the newbook came in TRF and the 'Euro-super' pastors have decided to scrap most of the songs, which are not the dutch RF written ones.

    Shine Jesus Shine, is now omitted because it is deemed as 'pentecostal'.

    Essentially, the Robin Mark, Matt Redman, Graham Kendrick, Tim Hughes are scrapped!
    They will now be monitoring, very closely all songs they sing and quite simply will stick to their 'old-guard' full of nothing songs. This was determined at the pastor's meeting last Saturday.

    Praise God I am finally out of there after confronting the PB about his very unscriptural teaching on love, which was a carbon copy of PPs talk from Holland!

    A personal study of the Greek and Hebrew is the way forward, friends in Christ, for all those who wish to know the truth. If you rely on TRF for teaching, then the blind lead the blind!


    1Jn 2:27 But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie--just as it has taught you, abide in him.




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I think Graham Kendrick was pretty much blacklisted when I was in London.  Strange though - the lyrics are about as comprehensive and orthodox as you can get.  I cannot think of any Graham Kendrick lyric that conflicts with RF teaching anyway --- I think it was the style and tone that pastors would object to.  That and the March For Jesus movement connection.

And here I sit so patiently waiting to find out what price / I have to pay to get out of going through all these things twice
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after 10 years I still remember every word to "the old old story"

It still gets stuck in my head sometimes

lol
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Haha one time me and a brother were taking the mickey haha:

"Brothers and Sisters, lets get together *Teeth Gritting*"

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beula-land Dutch version PP favourite very weird song hahah
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 I once heard a guy who was leading the chorus session refer, with a straight face, to "Jeho the Giant" anyone out there able to "interperet" which chorus he was referring to?
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Pre-RCI et cetera, but the one time I went to an RCI meeting and they raped me spiritually, the song they were in the middle of when I arrived was

At the cross at the cross where I first saw the light
And the burden of my heart rolled away
It was there by faith I received my sight
And now I am happy all the day

For weeks afterwards I was feeling the exact opposite. I was told that my church were leading me to hell for not having a "two or at the most three" session every week (though there were tongue-speakers and plenty of prophecy) and for only having communion once a month.

It didn't take me long to see that most of the church leaders from history they extolled in Speaking In Tongues Is Bible Evidence Of Holy Ghost Baptism didn't fit certain of their criteria. But it took me years to get past their accusation that the reason I didn't understand Scripture the way they did was that I hadn't asked the Spirit to interpret it to me. When I challenged them about where did it say to do communion every week, they referred me to the last chapter of 1 Corinthians. "And now regarding the collection for God's people do as I told the Galatian churches. On the first day of the week..."

"You see" interrupted the young man who'd invited me along, it says "On the first day of the week".

"But he's moved on from communion, he's talking about something else" I replied.

"Oh come on" the man retorted "it's the last chapter, he's summing up, he's not just going to suddenly say 'Oh by the way take up the collection every Sunday". So the vast majority of professing Christians were going to be damned just for not picking up on a subtlety in the closing chapter of an epistle!!!!!!!!!!

If Christ's response to my alleged misinterpretation of the Bible was to speak to me like that... I knew deep down it wouldn't be. But within a few weeks I'd written these lines

Well my knees are knocking
And my throat's gone tight
When the Lord told me that the yoke was easy
And the burden was light
Well if you've got the truth
And you're walking in the light
You'd better ask yourself why what you're preaching
Sends so many back into the night

Funnily enough, I've just found an mp3 of Chris Kernahan who told me my church were leading me to hell. He doesn't sound as harsh as I remember - but I've been pretty disturbed by other stuff I"ve read about him on these forums.

I ought to add that this was in 1992 prior to the RF split.
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Reply to tommo

 I once heard a guy who was leading the chorus session refer, with a straight face, to "Jeho the Giant" anyone out there able to "interperet" which chorus he was referring to?

Uh would that be Jehovah Jireh?
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