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Yes the obvious answer is "all of them" but which ones could you really not stand... I see Jehovah Jireh has been given a dishonourable mention a few times elsewhere on the forum but for me the one that made me want to rip my ears off was Happy Happy Happy. Naturally we preferred to sing the unofficial alternative version but you had to keep your voice down and be careful about who was sitting nearby lest they faint at hearing the word "crappy".
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Re:Revival choruses you never want to hear again, ever.

Date Posted:24/02/2007 4:45 PMCopy HTML

Singing ' I love this family of god, so closely knitted into one'... 'So come and join this happy throng' in a group of 8 people who couldn't stand each other
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Won't go into specific songs, but I do recall a time where my child was being 'dedicated' and I was encouraged to invite family members to share in the 'auspicious occasion' (or should I say to be witnessed to).

Anyway, a brother-in-law came and sat through most of the meeting before the little ceremony. He is a professional session muso, runs a prestigious music school, and mixes with some of the world's greatest rock guitarists. He is a pretty cool dude. You get the picture!

Well I have to say I felt incredibly embarrassed. Muso's of his calibre have a feel for music running thru their veins, its just in them. To sit amid a bunch of automatons singing one bland durge after another with the enthusiasm of a zombie was just too much. He said nothing, but I know what he must've thought.

Oooooooo it makes my skin crawl, to think of the nonsense that I associated with, and how it alienated us from normal everyday folk.


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Re:Revival choruses you never want to hear again, ever.

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i still have fond memories of "dont knock noah" the first time i was dressed as a faun never forget that

and when they re-wrote it in brisbane it actualy was fun to watch and not just because you had a child or grandchild in the play

but the first time i went to meeting at annother church.. to feel the joy.. no wonder we wernt supposed to go to other churches, we would be able to see how much we were missing.

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i still have fond memories of "dont knock noah" the first time i was dressed as a faun never forget thatand when they re-wrote it in brisbane it actualy was fun to watch and not just because you had a child or grandchild in the playbut the first time i went to meeting at annother church.. to feel the joy.. no wonder we wernt supposed to go to other churches, we would be able to see how much we were missing.

    Agree with you about the joy, and not only joy, to my amazement this  place we had found was full of people showing the fruits of the spirit, there was so  much love and joy, so much peace, everything we saw and heard was contrary to what we had been led to expect. THis was one of the "dead", compromised churches we had been warned against for so long, rubbished from the front at every oportunity.

That was 3 yrs ago now, and nothing has happened to change our new found joy, we never have to sing " I've got the joy joy joy" to convince ourselves.

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Re:Revival choruses you never want to hear again, ever.

Date Posted:25/02/2007 5:59 AMCopy HTML

How about the proverbial R E V I V AL , where everyone is enjoined to shout  "for the work in____________ (insert your assemby) has just begun."  Dreadful...

Yeah, their work. not God's.

there were many tedious choruses, but I have one story to tell about chorus leading.  We were at a camp during the week having a mid-week meeting. We were all a bunch of newbies, without a clue of what was going on, and how to do things.

The meeting leader was late, as often the case, so we decided to start ourself.  We did not know who to let lead choruses so we asked one of the girls do it and off we went singing.

A few minutes later the leader showed up, mildly surprised to see a sister leading choruses.   He stated that it was probably the only time in the history of the Revival centres that a woman had lead choruses or done anything up at the front like that.  

A great moment in the history of the RCI

 

 

 

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Re:Revival choruses you never want to hear again, ever.

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Yes the obvious answer is "all of them" but which ones could you really not stand...I see Jehovah Jireh has been given a dishonourable mention a few times elsewhere on the forum but for me the one that made me want to rip my ears off was Happy Happy Happy. Naturally we preferred to sing the unofficial alternative version but you had to keep your voice down and be careful about who was sitting nearby lest they faint at hearing the word "crappy".

How about  "I'll never be the same again, oh no, no, no, no ,no no no"? 

Man, I never want to sing such 'uplifting' (NOT!!!) choruses ever again!!!!

Mind you, I AM feeling particularly 'saved and happy now' now that I fellowship elsewhere and let me just say the worship songs are nothing like the old RF. No wonder they told us never to go to Penecostal churches - we'd get far too uplifted and closer to God. Heaven forbid!

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I think happy happy happy was the WORST song to sing in the RF.

I just refused to sing it in the end. It's actually been the example chorus for us to sing to people we meet at our new church to give them an example of how awful the place is. We clap slowly and look miserable and mumble the words "happy happy happy, happy in the lord" and start snoring at the end - it cracks everyone up every time. gold.

As far as record breaking accounts - people nearly fell out of their shoes when i recounted stories of women (including me when i was still a teenager) opening and closing in prayer at housemeetings when there weren't many men there. Our houseleader (who is now a pastor) saw no problem with it.

Also, (some of you may not know this one) "They rush on the city"

It goes...

"they rush on the city, they rush on the walls
great is the army who carries out the call

they rush on the city, they rush on the walls
great is the army who carries out the call

For the Lord utters his voice before the army
For the Lord utters his voice before the army

Blow the trumpet in zion zion
raise the alarm in the holy mountain
blow the trumpet in zion zion
sound the alarm...sound the alarm...sound the alarm"

then you repeat it about 5 times! Everyone used to pick it because it had a catchy, upbeat tune - and i used to look around and ask people what spiritual relevance it had they just said they liked the song. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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Re:Revival choruses you never want to hear again, ever.

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I've been thinking a bit about the theme of this thread.........

You know, there's not really much wrong with many of these songs, its the association we have with them and the sentiment that we have had as we dutifully sung them week after week, year after year.

There was a certain 'deadened' spirit that was underlying the whole scene. This was the product of the suppressed regime that we existed in.

In contrast, watch someone that is truly 'one' with what they are singing or playing, maybe a seasoned jazz muso. There whole body is an instrument in tune with the music, they are moved by the sentiment of the song. This is someone truly 'in their groove' and in tune with the universe!!!

I cringe at the many moronic 'items' performed by folk who really would have preferred to be somewhere else, rather than standing statue-like singing a song that does not 'move' them


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Re:Revival choruses you never want to hear again, ever.

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I've been thinking a bit about the theme of this thread.........You know, there's not really much wrong with many of these songs, its the association we have with them and the sentiment that we have had as we dutifully sung them week after week, year after year.There was a certain 'deadened' spirit that was underlying the whole scene.

It's a funny ol' thing eh Dog? I look back and remeber a dozen adults standing in my living room crooning along to "There's a river of life". It just seems so lame... The rolling eyeballs and silent groans we shared when starting out another session. There was a strange niceness to it, but even around a campfire, it was just too damn corny.

When I used to think about bringing friends or family to a meeting I just cringed at the thought of making them stand in rows or circles and clapping along with me to "Light up the fire". Most chorus leaders made me cringe too (hey, Im just being honest), I used to try to do weird crap on stage all the time to try and get the audience to smile because the ditties weren't doing it.

I remember going to a chorus leader's meeting once and getting a huge typed list from 'head office' about all the dos and don'ts of chorus leading. Dang, I should have kept that thing. I remember it being a very long and serious list. It said we weren't allowed to harmonize, that was the job of the chorus line.

Ohhhh!!! and Tom, remember the chorus singers. We really stepped up the pace and allowed 3 singers sometimes. We even allowed men to join in. And you were on the roster too. hahahahha... you looked so proud to be there, singing with the girls. God that was funny and so many people sang that reallllly couldn't sing at all. Sounded dreadful, but how do you convince poeple who think they can sing that they can't. You can't.. they just can't see it, they can't!

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Re:Revival choruses you never want to hear again, ever.

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Reply to : dogmafreeI've been thinking a bit about the theme of this thread.........You know, there's not really much wrong with many of these songs, its the association we have with them and the sentiment that we have had as we dutifully sung them week after week, year after year.There was a certain 'deadened' spirit that was underlying the whole scene.It's a funny ol' thing eh Dog? I look back and remeber a dozen adults standing inmy living room crooning along to "There's a river of life". It just seems so lame... The rolling eyeballs and silent groans we shared when starting out another session. There was a strange niceness to it, but even around a campfire, it was justtoo damn corny.When I used to think about bringing friends or family





Yes Mothy you certainly were different, all the other chorus drones put me to sleep.I don't miss that bloody hot as a oven hall at camp Coolum lol
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Cause I'm so happy, so God damn happy!!

One song I really cringed wth was There's a new world order, I felt I should raise out my arm and yell Zeik Heil. It really did feel like an evil'cultish song to me.

The other was I love this famly of God......I couldn't stand 3/4's of them and the other 1/4 I wanted to run around yelling danger danger, danger Will Robinson!!

As I hear it, I'll repeat it, Its up to you if you believe it! Allegation big and small, soon revealed before us all. outa here- Outa Egypt!
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Yes the obvious answer is "all of them" but which ones could you really not stand...I see Jehovah Jireh has been given a dishonourable mention a few times elsewhere on the forum but for me the one that made me want to rip my ears off was Happy Happy Happy. Naturally we preferred to sing the unofficial alternative version but you had to keep your voice down and be careful about who was sitting nearby lest they faint at hearing the word "crappy".

The one that i found most unusual was to sing was about ""the trees of the field clapping their hands and going out with joy"

However they wernt all bad and for those current revival centre people who must watch this site just to find out what is going on around their assemblies as well as their own as i am sure they do what about this song.  I am sure that you all can imagine the tune in your head

To be like Jesus  To be like Jesus   All that i ask is to be like him   All through lifes journey

Through earth to glory   All that i ask   Is to be like him

           Just remember all those people who have left and now you ignore just because they dont go along anymore.      Is that what Jesus would do    As far as i can recall he didnt ignore anybody

He just helped anyone who needed help

 

 

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Reply to : misswootyYes the obvious answer is "all of them" but which ones could you really not stand...I see Jehovah Jireh has been given a dishonourable mention a few times elsewhere on the forum but for me the one that made me want to rip my ears off was Happy Happy Happy. Naturally we preferred to sing the unofficial alternative version but you had to keep your voice down and be careful about who was sitting nearby lest they faint at hearing the word "crappy".The one that i found most unusual was to sing was about ""the trees of the field clapping their hands and going out with joy"However they wernt all bad and for those current revival centre people who must watch this site just to find out what is going on around their assemblies as well as their own as

Very well said, but reading these threads, and from our own experiences, we know how unlike Jesus they are. Thy are good at talking the talk,( or singing the words)  but don't walk the walk that he commanded.  " Love one another as I have loved you ?" Forgiveness ? Turn the other cheek ?

"Judge not and ye shall not be judged, condemn not and ye shall not be condemned, forgive , and ye shall be forgiven ". "Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of  thine own eye, and then thou shalt see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brothers eye."      To quote but a few of the words they never sing, because they've forgotten them.

"I'll never be the same again" that's my favourite now, since I've  (realy ) found the Lord, I am not the same, and I'll never be the same again," And all the ex revivalists said Amen.

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Reply to : tshazaaaarghReply to : misswootyYes the obvious answer is "all of them" but which ones could you really not stand...I see Jehovah Jireh has been given a dishonourable mention a few times elsewhere on the forum but for me the one that made me want to rip my ears off was Happy Happy Happy. Naturally we preferred to sing the unofficial alternative version but you had to keep your voice down and be careful about who was sitting nearby lest they faint at hearing the word "crappy".The one that i found most unusual was to sing was about ""the trees of the field clapping their hands and going out with joy"However they wernt all bad and for those current revival centre people who must watch this site just to find out what is going on around their assemblies as well as their own as
So old Holborn I take it now now you've really found the Lord I take it you walk in LOVE
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Stop and let me tell you!!! I am sorry but considering I was sent door knocking in primary school with only some teenager to supervise - and knowing now as an adult just how dangerous that is and how many really really messed up people there are out there....

Still I did like the words to a couple of songs and in my connect group at my new - Jesus / God based church we have started singing a few of the old scripture based songs because they have been brought up on lovey Hillsong style music and like the powerful scripture based songs - it is all perspective.




Yes the obvious answer is "all of them" but which ones could you really not stand...I see Jehovah Jireh has been given a dishonourable mention a few times elsewhere on the forum but for me the one that made me want to rip my ears off was Happy Happy Happy. Naturally we preferred to sing the unofficial alternative version but you had to keep your voice down and be careful about who was sitting nearby lest they faint at hearing the word "crappy".




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Now you are the light in the LORD
Live as Children of Light.
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I think a great chorus leader, that is someone who is gifted and this is their ministry and not just someone on a roster because we want to give them a go, will make the chorus/worship time something special regardless of the songs - well maybe not happy happy happy!

On the other hand you can sing hillsong, planetshakers, city church etc and if the chorus/worship leader stinks then so will the worship.

It needs passion, motivation, people need to beleive what they are singing, the leader will take them to a place closer to God than when they started. I am sick of the "chorus leaders" stuffing up songs EVERY week and laughing about it, saying "oh sorry guys", and talking about last nights activity during this "blessed" time. Although the reports of last nights activity is sometimes more exciting than the choruses.

Anyway, my choice is - it's bubbling! start slow and then get as fast as you can til we almost all start speaking in tongues

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Just thinking of choruses and also hymns at  grc. They try to claim such inspired writers as the Wesley's as some how part of their church yet they hate prodestents. I have even heard misled followers try to tell me such people as the Wesley's and John Bunyin must have spoke in tongues but never recorded doing so. Yeah of coarse they did but didnt think it was worth mentioning. No wonder I left, I hate bullshit. Thats all for now so theres a shout in the camp hallow...................................
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Reply to : old holbornReply to : tshazaaaarghReply to : misswootyYes the obvious answer is "all of them" but which ones could you really not stand...I see Jehovah Jireh has been given a dishonourable mention a few times elsewhere on the forum but for me the one that made me want to rip my ears off was Happy Happy Happy. Naturally we preferred to sing the unofficial alternative version but you had to keep your voice down and be careful about who was sitting nearby lest they faint at hearing the word "crappy".The one that i found most unusual was to sing was about ""the trees of the field clapping their hands and going out with joy"However they wernt all bad and for those current revival centre people who must watch this site just to find out what is going on around their assemblies as well as their own as

    Well I try Frank, dont claim to be perfect in that respect. But I can say I now have a clearer picture of what  walking in love  means. What it certainly does'nt mean is to turn away from, and shun anyone who for whatever reason decides to leave your church, or is asked to leave for that matter. It does'nt mean making judgements on who is, or is'nt saved based on dubious interpretations of scripture. And it does'nt mean bullying, and  harassing, the flock to keep them in obedience to petty rules and regulations, in fear of losing their salvation, and banishing any one who does'nt toe the party line. I could go on , but these threads are full of examples of the " love " many of us have received  by belonging to these organisations, and we consider it our duty, in love, to warn others of the danger. Jesus got stuck into the Pharisees over their judgemental, and legalistic practises, but he never turned anyone away, or shunned them. but laid down his life for all.

 

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Thanks, Old Holborn I feel the love.

I just ran a house meeting tonight, cancelled the talk. We had extended heart felt testimonies, sang 3-4 songs-no leader just good guitar, then into praying for a stronger understanding of what relationship is. JUST SCRATCHING THE SURFACE NOW. 


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Reply to : old holbornThanks, Old Holborn I feel the love.I just ran a house meeting tonight, cancelled the talk. We had extended heart felt testimonies, sang 3-4 songs-no leader just good guitar, then into praying fora stronger understanding of what relationship is. JUST SCRATCHING THE SURFACE NOW.

   Good on you, i would'nt knock that. after I left I did the same for a while. But at the same time I was searching for knowledge. For the first time in almost 20 yrs I was free to read other publications, bible commentaries, and yes this web-site. I had been a good rev. up till then, and obediant. It made me realise that I was a complete amateur, taught by amateurs, who had themselves been taught only by amateurs. I realised I was incompetant as a leader, my mind chock full of unsupported rubbish.

I joined an established church, one that has been around for 400+ yrs, \My eyes have been well and truly opened  to the hypocrysy, and the false gospel  I had recieved , and spread over those years. I attended bible studies, and only now some 3yrs later am I taking minor leading roles again, as a reader, and worship leader.  Repecting this sites rules, I'm not advertising that church, or making any claims for their superiority. I ve learned, and believe that it's just one part of the body of Christ, and as Paul tells us, a body is made up of many differing parts, and they all work differently, with different functions, but they all have the same head. I can happily worship, and we often do, with any denomination, without wanting to pull them to pieces, or insult them by telling them they are unsaved, because they dont speak in gibberish.

I often find myself singing in my mind the old Rev, choruses, I realy have nothing against most of them, they taught me many scriptures over the years, but I find many of them are the catchy bits from the hymn books of this old established church.

Dont just scratch the surface brother , dig deep, you've made a start by reading the stuff on here., may you uncover the truth, and come out from among them.

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Thanks again.

I'm an avid reader always have been and I'm not much of a follower of men. I am a business man, family man, son of God type of guy. My walks my own and I enjoy breaking up the fallow ground in me. I've pushed in a bit harder the last 16 months. yes 16 months, I actually know when I started to push in (even the night). Theory became practice. Book titles like "The Father Heart of God", "Whats so amazing about grace".

Something else I've done is been working with a mastermind group in Melb/ Syd for 8 years.

The facilitator was a 63 (70) Jewish Rabbi (spoke fluent Hebrew) and way he was clinical psych. and had been for 25 years. Man I have read some out there stuff over that time mostly left brain. Istopped last year I'd been opened up like a can of worms for 8 years I loved it.

I Love being challenged and shaking off rubish that holds us back. So with that background I've pressed into my relationship with my God. I guess I do come at the whole Church thing from a different perspective. Amatuers , with fear based walks that find themselves in leadership roles and cover up there own inadequacies by controlling, guilting sort of stand out to me. To that lot I'm not very forgiving or gracious. But I have had to learn to have a shepherds heart and love the sheep.

Yes I'm fascinated by the Forum and the diverse because if there is one thing that control freaks hate it's DIVERSITY. Diversity in people seems to bring out the worst is this crew. Being simple is one thing, being niave is something else. so lets see what unfolds!!!!!!!!!


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Hi frank, if your eyes have been opened and you are reading, seeking, praying etc as you say, what are your beliefs on no tongues no salvation?? I know that there is not one church that is perfect, but to stay at one that teaches biblically incorrect false doctrine astounds me. Jesus spoke of many gifts not just tongues and said that the gratest was professy. I am not saying that tongues don't exist, but to base your fath on only one facet of Jesus' teachings is biblically unsound.

Keep praying for revelation - I will pray for you and your assembly. I hope that you can act as a true agent of change and begin to strip the unGodly from that church.




Reply to : old holbornThanks again.I'm an avid reader always have been and I'm not much of a follower of men. I am a business man, family man, son of God type of guy. My walks my own and I enjoy breaking up the fallow ground in me. I've pushed in a bit harder the last 16 months. yes 16 months, I actually know when I started to push in (even the night). Theory became practice. Book titles like "The Father Heart of God", "Whats so amazing about grace".Something else I've done is been working with a mastermind group in Melb/ Syd for 8 years.The facilitator was a 63 (70) Jewish Rabbi (spoke fluent Hebrew) and way he was clinical psych. and had been for 25 years. Man I have read some out there stuff over that time mostly left brain. Istopped last year I'd been opened up like a can of wor




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Reply to : old holbornThanks again.I'm an avid reader always have been and I'm not much of a follower of men. I am a business man, family man, son of God type of guy. My walks my own and I enjoy breaking up the fallow ground in me. I've pushed in a bit harder the last 16 months. yes 16 months, I actually know when I started to push in (even the night). Theory became practice. Book titles like "The Father Heart of God", "Whats so amazing about grace".Something else I've done is been working with a mastermind group in Melb/ Syd for 8 years.The facilitator was a 63 (70) Jewish Rabbi (spoke fluent Hebrew) and way he was clinical psych. and had been for 25 years. Man I have read some out there stuff over that time mostly left brain. Istopped last year I'd been opened up like a can of wor

   I 'm beginning to get a clearer picture of you, and where your coming from. But I think you will  find your days are numbered. Before very long there will be a visit from J.K, who will no doubt  have read your comments, or they will have been reported to him. TWMBA will be pulled up short, and either conform or be liquidated, as have many assemblies here in the UK. in the last couple of years. You are flogging a dead horse all the time you remain under their control. Another method is to out the pastor, and replace him with a hardliner to sort out and get rid of all the liberal free thinkers. labeling them as backsliders,  It's the revival way. Read the Uk RF thread.

Maybe thats what you are  waiting for ?  If you all left RF, I wonder what gospel you would be preaching, somehow I suspect it would still be no tongues, no salvation, I may be wrong, but I get the feeling . And thats a doctrine  invented by Lloyd Longfield, who also  advocated  permanant excommunication, British Israel,  bible numerics.and no compromise, making his group separatist, isolated from the rest of christianity. Which of those will you continue to maintain, wether in ,or out.?  I notice you hold up your hands in horror at the treatment a young married man is recieving, recorded on another thread, apparently under the same RF banner. By their fruit shall ye know them, Jesus said, and Paul tells us what that fruit is. Not much sign of it in that place, but as long as every one speaks in tongues it's alright I suppose. thats the main thing.          It's indefencible, do yourself a favour, and leave now.

"But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord "
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I have asked the Guy on that thread to let me know what group, I suspect it's GRC of which I know very little about.

Accept a number of years ago  came across some in TMBA while driving around showing them some houses, when they discovered that I was RCI at the time they wanted out and would never return my calls.

Sorry Old Holborn my life experience is such that I see things very different to you. I mix with stacks of other christians who enjoy and embrase the Holy Ghost experience and their prayer in TOUNGES. If ever I prickle up it's when I here you describe it as GIBBERISH.

I recognise now that this is a community on this forum and I'm just visiting. I was shown that very clearly the other day.

For the record I love the fact that I have been baptised into the Body of Christ by water & Spirit, the contrast change for me coming out of the world, drugs the whole lot was sooo powerful. The walk has continued to be challenging at all levels whilst I married grew a family, built a business and did things as self development and generally lived my life. I have many examples of the power of God in my life.  As I may have mentioned a couple of times, I just stumbled on this site and I used it to download my dissapointment at the treatment of Steve. However that doesn't mean I have a heap of baggage or that I'm anti tongues, anti God or for that matter anti RF (shock horror).  My personal experience is not like yours or many others in this community, as I said this is laregely new to me.

So I'm not bitter don't have a particular agenda, accept perhaps to understand some of the people on the forum. For no doubt the stories are real. But I'm not a fan of generalisation, in that all we see is human nature at work.  For me if there's anything I have been working on lately (Dec 05, big time) it's judgement and how it has effected my life.  I've been riddled with it. So when I started to address that (in my life, not others) lots of things started to improve for me.

So if there one thing I am a little sensative to at the moment it's judgement and how it effects our thoughts and behaviours. So as people push and pull to grap your attention , this way and that the one thing the many realize is that I'm on GODS side. If he wants to direct my paths then I'll give hime plenty of time so that can if necessary can happen, hence I love prayer,  meditation and reading the WORD of GOD.  Even as I say these things I can almost hear the joint grown go up from some of the Forum members. This talk must sound just so niave to some.

So there it is , that another bit of me shared and bared.


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Like Franks Ghost I also still believe in tounges (not as a salvation thing) but as being part of the relationship with God and the holy ghost, I think people have a realtions ship with God outside of this also, however its a dimension to ones walk that is to powerful (for me)  to be with out, and Yes I would encourage those that have not yet recieved the baptisim of the holy spirit to do so, not under compulsion but in a ":wait there is more" Like I have found out sionce leaving the revers 10 years ago, there is SOOOOO much more to God , the Holy Spirit and the Body of Christ ie the church/believers etc.

Grace to all

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Hi, E5.

Like Franks Ghost I also still believe in tounges (not as a salvation thing) but as being part of the relationship with God and the holy ghost, I think people have a realtions ship with God outside of this also, however its a dimension to ones walk that is to powerful (for me) to be with out, and Yes I would encourage those that have not yet recieved the baptisim of the holy spirit to do so, not under compulsion but in a ":wait there is more" Like I have found out sionce leaving the revers 10 years ago, there is SOOOOO much more to God , the Holy Spirit and the Body of Christ ie the church/believers etc.

Whew! That was certainly a very long sentence.

FWIW I'm also one of the general ex-Rev crowd who maintains a 'belief' in 'tongues', although my own view goes something like this: (1) that there remains today such a thing as an authentic and valid gift of 'tongues' available to the Church. (2) That this gift remains available to, and is exercised by, some Christians in our day. (3) That, according to Paul, it's truly the 'least' of all gifts (which pretty much places it lower on the scale of spiritual "wizzbangery" than are gifts of service or the gift of helps, for example). (4) That not everyone who believes that they possess this gift actually does so (which is especially true of Revivalists). (5) That the gift of 'tongues', as we find described in 1 Corinthians, is completely separate from, and distinct to, the sign of 'tongues' mentioned in the book of Acts. (6) That the idea that the 'evidence' of having been "baptised in the Spirit" equals the Revivalist/Charismatic gift of 'tongues' is without any biblical warrant or support.

Oay, I'm one of those people who personally reckons that I have an authentic gift of 'tongues'. But is it a major part of my life, my prayer life, or my spirituality? In other words, does 'tongues' somehow define me and my Christian walk? Nope. Not by a longshot.

It's my considered opinion, that too many former Revivalists continue to retain too high an opinion of the general 'worth' of 'tongues' than is spiritually healthy. Such perceptions generally aren't helped by the fact that the vast majority of ex-Revs who move on to other churches end up in one or another of the Pentecostal/Charismatic variety.

Just my musings, which I'm more than happy to tease out with others if so desired.

Blessings,

Ian

P.S. Drew D. and I have prepared a few exegetical essays on this and related subjects, and which can be found at www.pleaseconsider.info
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The Revival fellowship and similar are only a small part of the church community that speak in tongues, there are many, some 600 million christians throughout the world  that speak in tongues.

There are 2 tongues mentioned in the bible one is essential, one is not. The receiving of the Holy Spirt with the evidence of speaking in tongues is essential, then one might receive the spiritual gift of tongues , which may be about 10 percent of the folk in any given church that understands and has the spiritual voice gifts. 

It is largely legalism in the revival churches that we dont like,as it doesnt allow us to work our our own salvation,with fear and trembling,but rather fear and tremble at the oversight.

Its hardly any credit to anyone to continually tell us that we should not or dont need to speak in tongues as we would like to have that choice.

 

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Hi Ian

I completely agree with you!! I received the gift of tongues when I was 5, not through dilligent seeking but in Bali when I was dying of food poisening. A bit graphic I know, but I had thrown up so much it practically filled the bathtub in the hotel we were staying in and my parents were extremely conserned about me and praying. I suddenly burst into tounges and stopped being sick altogether. Since leaving the RC / RF I have regularly prayed to my God in tongues, but I do not think this defines my salvation. I know some amazing christians with many other gifts that do not speak in tongues and I would defy anyone to challenge their relationship with God.




Reply to : earth5Hi, E5.Like Franks Ghost I also still believe in tounges (not as a salvation thing) but as being part of the relationship with God and the holy ghost, I think people have a realtions ship with God outside of this also, however its a dimension to ones walk that is to powerful (for me) to be with out, and Yes I would encourage those that have not yet recieved the baptisim of the holy spirit to do so, not under compulsion but in a ":wait there is more" Like I have found out sionce leaving the revers 10 years ago, there is SOOOOO much more to God , the Holy Spirit and the Body of Christ ie the church/believers etc.Whew! That was certainly a very long sentence.FWIW I'm also one of the general ex-Rev crowd who maintains a 'belief' in 'tongues', although my own view goes something like this: (1) that there remains today such a thi




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Live as Children of Light.
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I'm sorry could you please give me exact scriptures where it says that the when tounges are mentioned they are not the same???? People like to feel like they are the only ones who have got it right - 1 Cor talks about us all being seperate parts of the one body with Christ as our head etc. Tounges are a true spiritual gift but to say they are the key to salvation discounts that Jesus said that he was the way the truth and the life.

GET OVER YOURSELF




The Revival fellowship and similar are only a small part of the church community that speak in tongues, there are many, some 600 million christians throughout the world that speak in tongues.There are 2 tongues mentioned in the bible one is essential, one is not. The receiving of the Holy Spirt with the evidence of speaking in tongues is essential, then one might receive the spiritual gift of tongues ,which may be about 10 percent of the folk in any given church that understands and has the spiritual voice gifts.It is largely legalism in the revival churches that we dont like,as it doesnt allow us to work our our own salvation,with fear and trembling,but rather fear and tremble at the oversight.Its hardly any credit to anyone tocontinually tell us that we should not or dont need to speak in tonguesas we would like




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Like Light and Dark I do not think tounges define out salvation, we can speak in tounges till the cows come home and not be saved. If tounges was the "magic answer" we would never have sin again in our life in any form, nor struggle with issues that we all do from time to time. as I said in an ealier post I feel that this is a part of our relaltionship/walk with God but certainly not the end, for in that last day will they not say lord lord did we not etc etc
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Reply to : ChartdoctorWow what happened to this thread about lets bag the revival songs???? Dear Chartdoctor I'm not sue whether your for or against , I don't quite understand the last sentence.At any rate I have an authentic tongue, authentic walk & my family are an authentic blessing.Ian I'll pass for now

     It's my experience on this site that whatever the thread starts off at, the subject of tongues will rear it's head, and there will be fierce debating. All the same arguments will be set forth, for and against. The subject has been fully covered again, and again. I'm not anti tongues myself, because that would be a denial of the word, but like Sott 1 I believe it to be a minor gift. The scriptures dont refer to it as " the evidence " of salvation. In fact Paul states quite plainly that God has appointed some in the church to do this, he goes on to speak of a better way, that is more excellent than all,. Elevating the gift of tongues above all the other many gifts, and making it the key to the kingdom is an invention. The claim that  all the gifts are given to evey one is not supported by scripture.

But this argument will still be raging when that trumpet blows, did I realy recieve the gift of tongues 20 yrs ago, or was I urged and fired up until my allelujhas became gibberish I would be more certain, had it come at  the moment, some time before when \I made my decision to get baptised and to walk with Jesus., as I was driving to work. Had I recieved a recognisable language that I had'nt learned I would be totaly convinced.

Any one out there who that happened to?,  If there is ,I've never heard of it.

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Let the spirit of the lord saturate your soul, (if they only meant what they where singing about)

Jesus is the joy of living,

Theres a million sons in my heart,

The windows of heaven are open,

Theres revival in the air today,

We recomend christ, our lord and master 

Come bless the lord, all you servents of the lord

When the gates swing wide on the other side,

Halulujah I want to sing all about it,

rejoice in the lord always and again i say rejoice,

Some bodys here and i know it is Jesus,

Like honey in the rock,

Lift high the banners of love halelujah,

Behold the tabernacle of God,

Stop and let me tell you what the good lords done for me,

I can run through a troop and leap over a wall,

Silver and Gold have I none (its all in the tithe bag)

But wait theres more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will leave that for another day

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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centrals never busy ie telephone to Glory

the other never heard of???

Make my life to be (oh glory) like a melody

jesus keep me as the apple of thine eye righr under the shadow of thy wing....

heavenly father I appreciatte you

just one day nearer home

the steps of a goos man are ordered by the lord

how great is our God

move move move oh move with God, Glory halleujah

Im save and happy now

mine eyes have been enlightened to now the hope

 

any more?????????????????????

 

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I have the official music book somewhere. I am going to have to find it because there were some good ones we would all remember.

He's my rock my sword my shield
The Old Old Story
This is the day
Jesus Loves Me This I Know
Press Down Shaking Together

Oh there are so many more that I can't think of right now... where did I stash that book??




centrals never busy ie telephone to Glorythe other never heard of???Make my life to be (oh glory) like a melodyjesus keep me as the apple of thine eye righr under the shadow of thy wing....heavenly father I appreciatte youjust one day nearer homethe steps of a goos man are ordered by the lordhow great is our Godmove move move oh move with God, Glory halleujahIm save and happy nowmine eyes have been enlightened to now the hopeany more?????????????????????




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Reply to : earth5I have the official music book somewhere. I am going to have to find it because there were some good ones we would all remember.He's my rock my sword my shieldThe Old Old StoryThis is the dayJesus Loves Me This I KnowPress Down Shaking TogetherOh there are so many more that I can't think of right now... where did I stash that book??centrals never busy ie telephone to Glorythe other never heard of???Make my life to be (oh glory) like a melodyjesus keep me as the apple of thine eye righr under the shadow of thy wing....heavenly father I appreciatte youjust one day nearer homethe steps of a goos man are ordered by the lordhow great is our Godmove move move oh move with God, Glory halleujahIm save and happy nowmine eyes have been enlightened to now the hopeany m

     In the twinkling of an eye ( another assembly will have gone )

         Be strong, and of good courage. ( theres life after revival )

        Are you discouraged,and are you blue. ( leave now)

         Move , move, move, (right out of there )

         Be gentle, be kind, ( Dont do as I do, do as I tell you.)

         Life is wonderful  ( now that I've left. )

         Humble youselves ( keep away from christians)

"But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord "
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just one day nearer home

heaven is better than this

have you been filled with the holy ghost and power

some golden day break

pressed down shaked together (with actions)

there is a saviour and he died for me

jesus is the joy of living

he is my everything he is my all

my god is able his able I know his able

turn your eys upon jesus (still like that one)

heavenly father I appreciate you

father in heavein I adore you (blessed be the lord God almighty)

Jesus christ of nazereth walked by the sea ( sung to puff the magic dragon tune)

his alive his alive his alive for evermore jesus is risen from the dead

how great is our God

when the gates swing wide on the other side

where is all this stuff comming from, the deep dark recesses of my tiny wee mind

 

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Thanks earth 5 for getting us back on the topic. Old Holb and Frank need to learn how to play catch up and hows the family via private email!

Anyway, can sleep now after getting that off my chest.

Or maybe I should have said I can rest now...... There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God (repeat) - really high now - He that is entered, into his rest, he also has ceased, from his own works, (first line and sing it deep) there remaineth zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Thanks earth 5 for getting us back on the topic. Old Holb and Frank need to learn how to play catch up and hows the family via private email!Anyway, can sleep now after getting that off my chest.Or maybe I should have said I can rest now...... There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God (repeat) - really high now - He that is entered, into his rest, he also has ceased, from his own works, (first line and sing it

deep) there remaineth zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

 Snot  me , tis im. I've put it back on thread  Sleep tight .

This is the day ( for getting out of there )

Hes able ( to carry you through if you do \)

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Reply to : Nahum 1v7Thanks earth 5 for getting us back on the topic. Old Holb and Frank need to learn how to play catch up and hows the family via private email!Anyway, can sleep now after getting that off my chest.Or maybe I should have said I can rest now...... There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God (repeat) - really high now - He that is entered, into his rest, he also has ceased, from his own works, (first line and sing itdeep) there remaineth zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzSnot me , tis im. I've put it back on threadSleep tight .This is the day ( for getting out of there )Hes able ( to carry you through if you do \)

  How about

There is no condemnation   ( Unless you leave )

All over the world, the Spirit is moving (RF havent got the monopoly on it )

Every body ought to Know ( RF IS A CULT )

The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases  ( even if you leave )

NO 478. I'ts good to be free. ( come on out )

No 489. I'm free free free. ( best move I ever made )

Life is wonderful ( now I'm freeof the CONTROL )

God is good to me  ( even tho I've left )

Glory be to God, He lifted me up ( and I recovered from years of oppression )

His name is higher, than any other, His name is Prince of peace, the mighty God. ( we dont believe that  in RF, but the tunes catchy, so what the heck)  

"But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord "
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Reply to : Nahum 1v7Thanks earth 5 for getting us back on the topic. Old Holb and Frank need to learn how to play catch up and hows the family via private email!Anyway, can sleep now after getting that off my chest.Or maybe I should have said I can rest now...... There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God (repeat) - really high now - He that is entered, into his rest, he also has ceased, from his own works, (first line and sing itdeep) there remaineth zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzSnot me , tis im. I've put it back on threadSleep tight .This is the day ( for getting out of there )Hes able ( to carry you through if you do \) How aboutThere is no condemnation ( Unless you leave )All over the world, the Spirit is moving (RF havent got t

Beautiful, old holborn!!  You hit the nail on the head - when we ' come out and be separate'  suddenly the choruses make more sense - how come?? 

Now I can sing because I'm happy, I can shout because I'm free, I've been changed into His likeness, He has given me liberty............

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Reply to : set freethen you repeat it about 5 times! Everyone used to pick it because it had a catchy, upbeat tune - and i used to look around and ask people what spiritual relevance it had they just said they liked the song. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.well it stood out and it was a great one for waking people up lol





How about ' we've got a great big wonderful God' I felt like i was at kindy listening to that crap
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Re:Revival choruses you never want to hear again, ever.

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Reply to : illegal alienHow about ' we've got a great big wonderful God' I felt like i was at kindy listening to that crapyeh.... but its alot more fun in kindy
Not only a lot more fun in kindy - the ' teachers'  are smarter and more kind!!
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Reply to : break freeReply to : illegal alienHow about ' we've got a great big wonderful God' I felt like i was at kindy listening to that crapyeh.... but its alot more fun in kindyNot only a lot more fun in kindy- the ' teachers' are smarter and more kind!!

    Heres a few more to bring comfort and hope to those struggling to come to terms with their new found freedom.  Thanks RF for teaching us these things. Why dont you practice them?

Where there is faith there is a voice calling, keep walking,  youre' not alone in this world..  ( But if you leave you will lose your salvation )

For Christ is the head of the church   ( But we reserve the right to make our own rules )

The Lord has given a land of good things   ( but most of them are now fobidden under our rules)

Jesus is my saviour  .  ( but only if you speak in tongues.  Rule No 1.)

The few hymns I can recall were old tried and trusted ones from the established churches, and they are'nt included in thisRevival Fellowship Chorus book I'm looking at. Too wishy washy, and liable to give people liberal ideas. I guess.    In the early days of RCI , and later RF here in UK, we had no official Chorus or Hymn books, and we used books from other Pentecostal churches. as well as any other hymns deemed suitable by our pastor. He favoured  old Pentecostal  stuff like Amazing Grace,  I'm living,on a mountain,  Bread of Heaven, Mine Eyes have sen the Glory, and many old Wesley ones. Life in revival then was much different.

We all thought we had found something good, with a wonderful message, Repent, be baptised , and recieve the gift of the Holy Spirit, as Peter proclaimed., nothing wrong with that, who would'nt want to start over  and rise up a new creation.  But of course very subtley it became more hard line,  without you realy noticing , until you became brainwashed, and accepted all the other rubbish. Later still came official music books, approved by head office, and old established Hymns were excluded.

I made out a 2 foolscap list of choruses and hymns that had been dropped, and gave it to the o.site requesting they werent alowed to die, it was ignored of course, The head office,  in Adelaide by this time , was excerting its control., and we had to toe the line

Excuse the history lesson folks,  but  "every body ought to know"

 

 

 

 

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I dunno if it was just me, but it seemed like SO many of the choruses and hymns sung in Adelaide were about war and being soldiers etc? I found we sung a lot more war stuff in adelaide than in other states that I visited. I didn't like it one bit, it always felt so doom and gloom and conformist. (is that a word?)

I used to ask for one called "I love you Lord" coz it was the closest to a worship song we had. I asked for it as the last chorus at my very last meeting in fact, was a nice goodbye tune. And "It's beginning to rain" every time I asked for that one I prayed for it to be true that Holy Spirit "would pour his Spirit out on his sons and his daughters"
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its beggining to rain, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, if only we knew what we where sing about back then

let the spirit of the lord saturatue your soul

let the spirit of the lord saturate your soul

he'll fill you up and over again , he'll fill you over again

so let the spirit of the lord saturate you soul

then move onto hill song

holy spirit rain down, rain down,    man i cried and cried when we sang that one in my new church

 

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Do you sing a song that goes "rain down, rain down" at hillsong?
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yes, its an older hillsong one. I was living in NZ when this one came out.

Hill Song music really opened up the flood gates for me re worship and intimate moments with God

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oh ok. the reason I ask is because the place I attend sings an AWESOME song called Rain Down. Well, i dunno if it's actually called that, but if it's not it should be!  

Yeah, worship songs have played a big part in breaking off the cement that was encasing my heart. i love being able to pray to god through these awesome songs and sing loudly and really geniunely praise the Lord with EVERYTHING within me.

 

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Brian D. McClaren (paraphresed)

Heal my heart and make it clean
Open up my eyes to the things unseen
Show me how to love like You have loved me
Break my heart for what breaks Yours
Everything I am for Your Kingdom"s cause
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Fun things to do in Church

Pull aside an unruly child in a preschool Sunday School class and say: "If you're bad in here, you'll go to Hell".

Going through all the hymnals, mark song 666.

Hide copies of Hustler inside the pulpit. Point them out.

Start a wave.

Make up your own words to the songs.

Dress all in black. Or in camo.

At a church dinner, scoop up a forkful of mashed potatoes. Announce that you can see an image of Jesus.

Mark places in the Bible or hymnal with religious-themed Far Side cartoons.

Turn in the Bible to the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:3-17). Draw in asterisks and write exceptions at the bottom of the page.

During the service, play with plastic dinosaurs. If someone asks what you're doing, tell them: "These are dinosaurs. They ruled the Earth over 65 million years ago".

Snicker every time the preacher talks about someone being stoned.

Dip communion wafers in communion wine. Eat it and exaggerate on how good it is.

Fake a possession.

Distribute condoms.

Write on the bathroom wall: "The eyes of the LORD are upon you!"

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have you been filled with the holy ghost and power

is jesus real to you heart and life this hour

tarry before him until the lord of glory

sends down from heaven the shower of later rain

its the later rain its the later rain its the later rain revival in me..........

jesus is the joy of living his the king of life to me

now unto him who is able to keep able to keep you from falling

blessed be the lord god almighty

How great is our god how great is is word

life is wonderful yes lifes wonderful life is wonderful now to me

some fine mornignwhen this life is over Ill fly away... ill fly away oh glory I'll fly away

his the christ of yesterday today for ever and his mine oh yes his mine

make my life to be oh glory like a melody ever telling out the message of the cross

over in glory over in glory after a while, all my joys will be complete when i sit at jesus feet ......

everybody ought to know  (ladies repeat)

 

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