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Out of fellowship – Quotes from Revivalist ‘Pastor’, Anthony Johnston 15/11/08 – Audio available at:
http://www.rci.org.au/sydney/talks/Out%20of%20fellowship%20Pr%20Anthony%20Johnston.zip

“Bit of a reminder… someone leaves that you’re friends with… you have to cut the connection. Doesn’t just mean the meetings, you know, alright, it’s hanging out with them, facebook, msn, whatever. We’ve got to draw the line…

The ‘church’ needs to be on high alert on this one…

If you’re still in contact with people that have left, you need to cut ties, and if you’re having trouble doing that then you have to speak to the pastors… but you need to do it ASAP.

If you run into someone in the street, ‘g’day’, basically keep it short. You’re not to hang out with them. Sometimes, you don’t know the situation, ask them to speak to the pastor, whatever, but you’re not meant to be hanging out with them, ‘how you going’, emailing or whatever. They need to be warned.

And if YOU disregard the bible instruction you also jeopardise your position in the fellowship by being disobedient and rebellious in the sense that you’re not going to follow the instruction of the scriptures, and we don’t want that to happen now do we? Everybody amen?

“There were people who were with you but then weren’t with you. There were people who were good friends, and that you loved, but you have to cut ties because that is what the Lord would have you to do…”

“…The church has got to be on high alert, and we have to be on high alert together… and it doesn’t work, you know…”

… you can get drawn in emotionally by this and that, but you got to look at the spiritual application… they don’t love the Lord like you do… if they’re not here, where are they, and why? And if they’re not here with you then err… why. aren’t they in fellowship here.

“We have to be strong and tough, we have to be like soldiers… and stand up for the lord and not sympathetic to things, but gotta be strong… we have to be an example to our kids and make it clear at an early age, that if your frieds leave ‘the Lord’ and aren’t walking in ‘the spirit’ anymore, you’re just going to have to cut connections, for your safety, for your safety in the lord.”

Youngies have come into Sydney and leave. They leave to do what they want to do and people still want to be in contact with them, we gotta cut it. Recognise them and withdraw from them. Stand up for the Lord and the fellowship you love to be an example to others.

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Hi, "Unk".

Yes, this drivel of Johnston really sums up matters within "Revival", doesn't it? Relationship with "strings"; fellowship with "conditions". Which begs a rhetorical question, what can one really do when confronted by such ingrained, paranoid myopia?

Fear breeds ignorance; love dispels fear.

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An example of Spiritual Adultery at it's worse.

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Comments like "… you can get drawn in emotionally by this and that, but you got to look at the spiritual application… they don’t love the Lord like you do… if they’re not here, where are they, and why? And if they’re not here with you then err… why. aren’t they in fellowship here. are a disgrace, this so called Pastor is not Pastoring at all.

If I were told this by a Brother or Sister I would remind them of what the Bible says in Acts 10:15 "What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common."

We are not in any position, ever; to say this... "they don’t love the Lord like you do" again a disgrace!!!

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Thought Id copy this over from "Simon says" I thought relevent to this, some of my comments and some of OOE in response to mine, Obviously from this PSimon doesent agree with the talk !!!!!

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Simon Longfields own 'out of fellowship' son, socializes with RCI Youngies.
The point was addressed directly to Simon as inappropriate and the Please Explain????
Apparently not! Simon's has said he is allowed to socialize with the youngies ;because it's different!

I have also heard of members, wifes (related to the Longfield clan and Dynasty of cause.) mixing with Former out of fellowship RCI Pastors and their wife's, There really are two sets of rules, its sad.

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Just listened to it, boy am I glad I escaped all of that CRAP. What a novice.

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So I take it from this talk that
1. every one outside of Revival Centres is out of Fellowship with the Lord
2. There are no other fellowships other than RCI that are walking orderly
3. Christ died for this minority group
4. every one outside RCI is disorderly
5. RCi being the only ones obedient to Christ must then embody the closest resemblance to being in the image of Christ.

If thats being in Christ's image God help us all- defrauders and liars and non faithful enough to speak in Gods strength, cowering to the Likes of Victor Samoilenko a bully at best and Simon who cares little for the Word of God or the people he is suppose to care for.

Anthony Johnson: "They dont love the Lord or love the fellowship like you do"

What a statement to make and have to answer for, I may not be in RCI but I am 'wholly and solely' in fellowship and Love with my Lord Jesus Christ and have come into a fuller understanding and reality of walking in faith since leaving.

How can he judge me? he has never met me to know of my testimony or what fruit I bare in my life. Dangerous ground Pastor Anthony-very dangerous ground.

Anthony Johnson: "We have to be an example to our kids and make it clear at an early age, that if your friends leave ‘the Lord’ and aren’t walking in ‘the spirit’ anymore, you’re just going to have to cut connections"

What is heard here and is the underlying insecurity set deep in the heart of a child bought up in RCI -is you will be abandoned from the love and security of your family if you leave, you will be cut off from all you have known.
From birth a child is told they have no choice but to stay, no choice, believe or live a lie regardless or lose what every child feels is the most secure thing to them in the world the love of their Mummy and Daddy.
If he has children, I pray for their emotional well being and the escape for his family to fully know and be delivered to the freedom and liberty of no condemnation in when in Christ Jesus.

How can a parent be so cruel and abusive, it is plain threatening emotional blackmail.

I thank my God for every trial that has set me free from the clutches of such an abusive distortion of your love and Word.
I am blessed in the knowledge of your love and Grace and that you hold me in your precious hands. AMEN.

As I hear it, I'll repeat it, Its up to you if you believe it! Allegation big and small, soon revealed before us all. outa here- Outa Egypt!

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Reading this childish rant reminds me that each young 'pastor' coughs up the same, sad spiel.

Listening to the tape confirms that they are still trying to ape the founder (LL) in their delivery, falling very short in confidence and self-belief. I find it sad to listen to. I can still project myself into the audience (RCI, RF - same difference) and see myself nodding in agreement: a sad admission/confession.

With every day I'm away from this sort of talk and mindset, I breath the fresh air of freedom.

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Hi there Chips,
You are so right, there's not much free will for those in Revival. No freedom and the will is squashed completely.

As long as RCI and RF continue, Lloyd's legacy will live on. Most, if not all of the senior RF pastors are Lloyd's past appointees with his same approach, most in their talks even use the same voice inflection. Yes, each young 'pastor' does cough up the same sad spiel as they emulate the senior man in every way, in fact it might even be a prerequisite!

Epi

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I have heard about this Johnstone cat, he is alledged to have stood some young bloke up at a young peoples meeting and leveled all manner of accusations at him in regard to, shall we say, "after hours activities".. the young bloke had the good sense to tell him to Jam it and promptly left.

These kind of bullies make me sick, I would love to have a face to face with the likes of Ian MacGreogor, Geoff Hulme, Bruce Judkins Victor S... the list goes on... Terribly insecure little men who take great delight in lording their ill-gotten power over church members. During my 25 years (growing up) in RCI none of these weak minded fools came anywhere near me because I was not an "easy mark"... I saw this crap going on then and it still goes on now... To all you Revivalists allowing your life to be dictated to by these pathetic men... LEAVE NOW! Honestly you won't believe how happy it will make you.... and if people shun you then cut them loose they are not worth your friendship.... trust me your family members who choose to stay will come around eventually.

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Rank：Noobmeister Score：421 Posts：13 From：Australia Register：29/08/2007 7:54 AM	Re：Out of fellowship (shunning) – Talk by A Johnston Date Posted：08/06/2009 5:45 AMCopy HTML Hi, "Unk". Yes, this drivel of Johnston really sums up matters within "Revival", doesn't it? Relationship with "strings"; fellowship with "conditions". Which begs a rhetorical question, what can one really do when confronted by such ingrained, paranoid myopia? Fear breeds ignorance; love dispels fear. Blessings, Ian email: didaktikon@gmail.com
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Rank： Score：0 Posts：0 From：Unknown Register：21/09/2018 12:36 AM	Re：Out of fellowship (shunning) – Talk by A Johnston Date Posted：08/06/2009 7:19 AMCopy HTML An example of Spiritual Adultery at it's worse.
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Rank： Score：0 Posts：0 From：Unknown Register：28/05/2009 5:09 AM	Re：Out of fellowship (shunning) – Talk by A Johnston Date Posted：08/06/2009 9:00 AMCopy HTML Comments like "… you can get drawn in emotionally by this and that, but you got to look at the spiritual application… they don’t love the Lord like you do… if they’re not here, where are they, and why? And if they’re not here with you then err… why. aren’t they in fellowship here. are a disgrace, this so called Pastor is not Pastoring at all. If I were told this by a Brother or Sister I would remind them of what the Bible says in Acts 10:15 "What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common." We are not in any position, ever; to say this... "they don’t love the Lord like you do" again a disgrace!!! Blessings Demetrius
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Rank： Score：0 Posts：0 From：Unknown Register：21/09/2018 12:36 AM	Re：Out of fellowship (shunning) – Talk by A Johnston Date Posted：08/06/2009 11:44 AMCopy HTML Thought Id copy this over from "Simon says" I thought relevent to this, some of my comments and some of OOE in response to mine, Obviously from this PSimon doesent agree with the talk !!!!! Reply To outaegypt (Date Posted:31/03/2009 21:36:53) Reply to outaegypt (31/03/2009 20:35:48) Simon Longfields own 'out of fellowship' son, socializes with RCI Youngies. The point was addressed directly to Simon as inappropriate and the Please Explain???? Apparently not! Simon's has said he is allowed to socialize with the youngies ;because it's different! I have also heard of members, wifes (related to the Longfield clan and Dynasty of cause.) mixing with Former out of fellowship RCI Pastors and their wife's, There really are two sets of rules, its sad.
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Rank： Score：0 Posts：0 From：Unknown Register：21/09/2018 12:36 AM	Re：Out of fellowship (shunning) – Talk by A Johnston Date Posted：08/06/2009 12:24 PMCopy HTML Just listened to it, boy am I glad I escaped all of that CRAP. What a novice.
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Rank：Poster Venti I Score：6570 Posts：312 From：Unknown Register：22/06/2006 3:38 PM	Re：Out of fellowship (shunning) – Talk by A Johnston Date Posted：09/06/2009 2:00 AMCopy HTML So I take it from this talk that 1. every one outside of Revival Centres is out of Fellowship with the Lord 2. There are no other fellowships other than RCI that are walking orderly 3. Christ died for this minority group 4. every one outside RCI is disorderly 5. RCi being the only ones obedient to Christ must then embody the closest resemblance to being in the image of Christ. If thats being in Christ's image God help us all- defrauders and liars and non faithful enough to speak in Gods strength, cowering to the Likes of Victor Samoilenko a bully at best and Simon who cares little for the Word of God or the people he is suppose to care for. Anthony Johnson: "They dont love the Lord or love the fellowship like you do" What a statement to make and have to answer for, I may not be in RCI but I am 'wholly and solely' in fellowship and Love with my Lord Jesus Christ and have come into a fuller understanding and reality of walking in faith since leaving. How can he judge me? he has never met me to know of my testimony or what fruit I bare in my life. Dangerous ground Pastor Anthony-very dangerous ground. Anthony Johnson: "We have to be an example to our kids and make it clear at an early age, that if your friends leave ‘the Lord’ and aren’t walking in ‘the spirit’ anymore, you’re just going to have to cut connections" What is heard here and is the underlying insecurity set deep in the heart of a child bought up in RCI -is you will be abandoned from the love and security of your family if you leave, you will be cut off from all you have known. From birth a child is told they have no choice but to stay, no choice, believe or live a lie regardless or lose what every child feels is the most secure thing to them in the world the love of their Mummy and Daddy. If he has children, I pray for their emotional well being and the escape for his family to fully know and be delivered to the freedom and liberty of no condemnation in when in Christ Jesus. How can a parent be so cruel and abusive, it is plain threatening emotional blackmail. I thank my God for every trial that has set me free from the clutches of such an abusive distortion of your love and Word. I am blessed in the knowledge of your love and Grace and that you hold me in your precious hands. AMEN. As I hear it, I'll repeat it, Its up to you if you believe it! Allegation big and small, soon revealed before us all. outa here- Outa Egypt!
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Rank：Rookier III Score：2050 Posts：98 From：Australia Register：25/10/2008 4:59 AM	Re：Out of fellowship (shunning) – Talk by A Johnston Date Posted：09/06/2009 3:00 AMCopy HTML Reading this childish rant reminds me that each young 'pastor' coughs up the same, sad spiel. Listening to the tape confirms that they are still trying to ape the founder (LL) in their delivery, falling very short in confidence and self-belief. I find it sad to listen to. I can still project myself into the audience (RCI, RF - same difference) and see myself nodding in agreement: a sad admission/confession. With every day I'm away from this sort of talk and mindset, I breath the fresh air of freedom. Chips
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Rank： Score：0 Posts：0 From：Unknown Register：21/09/2018 12:36 AM	Re：Out of fellowship (shunning) – Talk by A Johnston Date Posted：09/06/2009 4:35 AMCopy HTML Hi there Chips, You are so right, there's not much free will for those in Revival. No freedom and the will is squashed completely. As long as RCI and RF continue, Lloyd's legacy will live on. Most, if not all of the senior RF pastors are Lloyd's past appointees with his same approach, most in their talks even use the same voice inflection. Yes, each young 'pastor' does cough up the same sad spiel as they emulate the senior man in every way, in fact it might even be a prerequisite! Epi
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Rank：Rookier Score：1640 Posts：82 From：Australia Register：06/10/2008 5:55 AM	Re：Out of fellowship (shunning) – Talk by A Johnston Date Posted：10/06/2009 2:25 AMCopy HTML I have heard about this Johnstone cat, he is alledged to have stood some young bloke up at a young peoples meeting and leveled all manner of accusations at him in regard to, shall we say, "after hours activities".. the young bloke had the good sense to tell him to Jam it and promptly left. These kind of bullies make me sick, I would love to have a face to face with the likes of Ian MacGreogor, Geoff Hulme, Bruce Judkins Victor S... the list goes on... Terribly insecure little men who take great delight in lording their ill-gotten power over church members. During my 25 years (growing up) in RCI none of these weak minded fools came anywhere near me because I was not an "easy mark"... I saw this crap going on then and it still goes on now... To all you Revivalists allowing your life to be dictated to by these pathetic men... LEAVE NOW! Honestly you won't believe how happy it will make you.... and if people shun you then cut them loose they are not worth your friendship.... trust me your family members who choose to stay will come around eventually.