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Date Posted:02/01/2009 3:22 AMCopy HTML

You know that God’s glory has departed don’t you?  You can feel it, that feeling that something is not quite right, something you can’t put your finger on… ichabod.

 

When God withdraws His Spirit from somewhere His judgment soon follows.

 

“For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God : and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?” 1 Peter 4:17

 

Read Ezekiel chapters 10 through 14

 

To the Shepherds of RCI:

 

Read Ezekiel chapter 34

All Jesus asked of you was to feed his lambs and to take care of his sheep (John 21:15-17).   Under your heavy shepherding many of his lambs have perished and his sheep are starving.

“You have killed many people in this city and filled its streets with the dead.” Ezekiel 11:6

 

Do you believe that all those sheep you threw out were the bones – and that you and the remainder left at RCI are the meat in the pot?

 

“Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: The bodies you have thrown there are the meat and this city is the pot, but I will drive you out of it.  You fear the sword and the sword is what I will bring against you, declares the Sovereign Lord.” Ezekiel 11:7,8

 

Many times God has sent someone to show you where you have veered off the path, to warn you to turn back to him, but you have covered your ears and hardened your hearts in pride. 

 

Open your ears and your hearts!  Repent!  Turn back to God, through the blood of His son Jesus and show yourselves to be merciful to His sheep.  “Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful.  Mercy triumphs over judgment.” James 2:12,13

 

Should you close your hearts and ears again to the warning of God Almighty, be prepared to have the sin of your greed, idolatry and pride brought down on your own heads.

 

To the flock of RCI:

 

Jesus said “I am the good shepherd.  The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep”  and   “ He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.  When he has brought out all his own he goes ahead of them and his sheep follow him because they know his voice.” John 10:3-5

 

“The hired-hand is not the shepherd who owns the sheep.  So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away.  Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it.  The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.” John 10: 12, 13

 

Consider the contrast: The good shepherd loves His sheep to the laying down of His own life for them, whereas the hired hand abandons the sheep when he sees the wolf approaching in order to protect himself.

 

Well, the wolf is coming.

What do you think your hired-hand shepherd will do?

 

Consider that God foretells Ezekiel the actions that their leader will take once judgment has begun:

 

“The prince among them will put his things on his shoulder at dusk and leave, and a hole will be dug in the wall for him to go through.  He will cover his face so hat he cannot see the land…” Ezekiel 12:12-14

 

Jesus commanded you to follow Him, not a hired hand, nor any man.  Disobey this command from your Lord at your own peril.

 

“Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy or me…. And anyone who does not take up his cross and follow me is not worthy of me.  Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.” Matthew 10:37-39

 

To sit under an aberrant ministry is to support it.

To put your social needs, your family life, your RCI status or even your doctrine before Christ is idolatry.  You too will share in the coming judgment of RCI unless you repent!  Give up your idolatry and follow Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep.

 

Listen to God’s promise when His people return to Him and remove their idols:

 

“I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them; I will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh.  Then they will follow my decrees and keep my laws.  They will be my people and I will be their God.” Ezekiel 11:19-20

 

To the perished lambs of RCI:

 

Don’t let the hard-hearted actions of the hired-hands turn you from the gentle shepherd of your soul, who has already laid down his life for you.

 

Read how much He loves you.

 

Luke 15:3-7

Matthew 15:11-24

Ephesians 3:14-19

Pray to Jesus and He will guide you.

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Re:Ichabod - Where the Glory of God has departed (RCI), His judgment is sent

Date Posted:03/01/2009 5:05 AMCopy HTML

Well done, well written, lets hope folk will listen and understand.

The AOGs are experiencing "some what" of a "Revival" (sorry for the term) J  in a resurgence of membership, due to the current mess Simon has got them into.

There are spiritual gifts happening, Tongues, Interpretation, Prophecies etc, loving caring shepards,  but without the regulated overtones and policy dominated Hitler style sense of leadership and uncaring wolves looking after the flock.
 

There is much more I could say but it’s a new year and one should move forward, and not dwell on the past, I have never been happier since leaving.

Remember that not all AOG's speak the same, but the name encompasses a whole range of beliefs. One just has to find one that does not display many of the excess found in American churches. They are there,  and if you're sincere, the Lord WILL guide you, and you will never be more happier.

 

http://www.aog.org.au/Find%20A%20Church.page

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Re:Ichabod - Where the Glory of God has departed (RCI), His judgment is sent

Date Posted:03/01/2009 6:27 AMCopy HTML

 Hi Im_out

From your post , RCI folk *do* seem to be seeing warning signs.

Might I suggest, though, that you consider carefully AOG/ACC's entry in their statement of beliefs that "speaking in tongues .. is the initial evidence of baptism in the Holy Spirit" (http://www.aog.org.au/What%20We%20Believe.page). One thing shown to me in my own journey out of "revival" is that that statement just ain't scriptural.The years of "revival" indoctrination on tongues seems to blind us to that point. We leave "revival", but stick with tongues, rather than see what "the apostles' doctrine" has to say.

When our understanding of the bible supports that type of tongues doctrine, it is so faulty that we're asking to be misled in other areas too.
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Re:Ichabod - Where the Glory of God has departed (RCI), His judgment is sent

Date Posted:04/01/2009 1:07 AMCopy HTML

Hi, 'I'm Out'.

Hmmm. I suppose the question needs to be asked, 'why on earth would you wish to exchange one error for another of the same kind?'

Blessings,

Ian

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Re:Ichabod - Where the Glory of God has departed (RCI), His judgment is sent

Date Posted:16/05/2009 1:41 AMCopy HTML

"Might I suggest, though, that you consider carefully AOG/ACC's entry in their statement of beliefs that "speaking in tongues. is the initial evidence of baptism in the Holy Spirit" (http://www.aog.org.au/What%20We%20Believe.page)."

I know that’s why I joined. (Your opinion, my opinion each one to their own). I believed this long before I had even heard of the name or of a church called Revival Centres,
The new Head Pastor of the AOG's in Brisbane is very much in favour of this direction now, Our Pastor gave a talk that would rival anything Lloyd has said, and it was spoken in love compassion, forgiveness and understanding. It seems where Rci have now fallen short, by supporting those who indulge in unethical business practices the Lord has now raised up the AOG's to continue the good work.

It is nothing like the church Geoff Beggs described one Sunday in January 08 as he held up the AOG handbook. And for what its worth five years ago, I was the last person on earth who would have imagined being as involved in the AOGs as I am now. J


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Re:Ichabod - Where the Glory of God has departed (RCI), His judgment is sent

Date Posted:16/05/2009 2:55 AMCopy HTML

Good morning, 'Out'.

Well then, having read such an admission, all that's left to say is, "more fool you".

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Re:Ichabod - Where the Glory of God has departed (RCI), His judgment is sent

Date Posted:16/05/2009 3:04 AMCopy HTML

Hi IO

I stand corrected. You believed in a "baptism of the Spirit with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues" *prior* to coming into contact with Revival Centres.

I have visited a number of AoG's over the years and found them to be full of wonderful, admirable people showing a terrific "Christian" ethic towards their fellow man, towards both believers and unbelievers and believing much of what the bible says. (I didn't come across the Hill$ong dudes/mentality.) Unfortunately, the Pentecostal (not just AoG) take on tongues and the Spirit contradicts (as far as I can see) what the bible says, so it's another gospel, and the scripture twisting necessasy to do so makes them ripe for extremes ranging from the pietistic/holiness end of the spectrum to the currently more popular "health, wealth and prosperity" end of the spectrum. That's why, as I untangled myself from the RCI/RF world, I took the decision to fellowship in a non-cessationist, non-Pentecostal church, even though it would have been far easier to simply move to a middle-of-the-road Pentecostal group.

As you intimate ... we each answer to the Lord, and I've sounded my "warning"
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Re:Ichabod - Where the Glory of God has departed (RCI), His judgment is sent

Date Posted:02/06/2009 10:14 AMCopy HTML

Revivalists,

God has already warned you above that there is a judgment coming to Revival Centres.  If you choose to stay at RCI you too will come under His divine judgement.  But the Lord is merciful and does nothing without warning His servants first.  If you seek His mercy and repent He will forgive you for your complacency.  Seek His will for your life - ask Him where HE wants you to attend church, where HE wants you to be for now.  Be assured He has a plan for your life and when you are walking in His will, rather than self-will, you will be abundantly blessed.

If you stay, then listen to the prophetic warning above - your leader will abandon you when the judgment begins.  He will " put his things on his shoulder at dusk and leave, and a hole will be dug in the wall for him to go through ". 

I believe that he may already be getting everything in order to pack onto his shoulder and leave.

"You turn justice into bitterness and cast righteousness to the ground.... you hate the one who reproves in court and despise him who tells the truth.  You trample on the poor and force him to give you grain.  Therefore, though you have built stone mansions, you will not live in them; though you have planted lush vineyards, you will not drink their wine.  For I know how many are your offences and how great your sins..... Therefore this is what the Lord, the Lord God Almighty, says:
"There will be wailing in all the streets and cries of anguish in every public square.  The farmers will be summoned to weep and the mourners to wail.  There will be wailing in the all the vineyards, for I will pass through your midst," says the Lord..... Let justice roll on like a river..." Amos 5



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Re:Ichabod - Where the Glory of God has departed (RCI), His judgment is sent

Date Posted:02/06/2009 10:34 AMCopy HTML

Zeik,

"Prophetic" warning? smiley17

Blessings,

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