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Date Posted:25/04/2008 1:48 PMCopy HTML

Ian Gone hey?!

hip hip ......

so what happened... an internal implosion?

You guys have all be praying for this sort of thing to happen in revival churches - bet you didn't count on it happening right here hey?

Plenty to say but nothing to give - you guys are like everyone else.
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Date Posted:25/04/2008 8:38 PMCopy HTML

Ian Gone hey?!

hip hip ......

Has he indeed? Why hip, hip ...? Is it because you couldn't counter his points in your other thread?

You guys have all be praying for this sort of thing to happen in revival churches - bet you didn't count on it happening right here hey?

No one here thinks that Ian has left the 'best' church, and put himself in danger of hell-fire ... unlike what your compatriots in RF would think if you left there.

Plenty to say but nothing to give - you guys are like everyone else.

So saying you miss again the point of this site Cry. Even if it were true, so what? You as a professing Christian should be concerned that much, if not most, RF doctrine is what Paul of Tarsus called 'another gospel'. In believing it you have (like I did) quite missed the mark as far as what scripture really says and have adopted a way of looking at the bible that horrenously distorts it, putting you at risk.


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Re:Ian Gone

Date Posted:25/04/2008 10:31 PMCopy HTML

Reply to TBerry (25/04/2008 07:48:06)

Ian Gone hey?!

hip hip ......

so what happened... an internal implosion?

You guys have all be praying for this sort of thing to happen in revival churches - bet you didn't count on it happening right here hey?

Plenty to say but nothing to give - you guys are like everyone else.

Ian's gone? Guess there's no point me coming back here anymore Cry
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Re:Ian Gone

Date Posted:26/04/2008 12:50 AMCopy HTML

Talmid, are you going to now assume ian's position as the official responder to everything posted on this forum?
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Date Posted:26/04/2008 1:11 AMCopy HTML

Talmid, You seem to have fallen into a time worn ditch. I'll try to help you out, as others should, by prayer.

One doesn't need to be an academic to understand that combat was the downfall of the church within a short time after Jesus resurrection and his ascension to the right hand of God.

My first (and ongoing) reaction to Ian's departure was one of concern for his well being. Surprised? There are probably few others that have not been castigated as severely as I, by him. I reacted and it escalated. I tried to offer peace but Ian had the bit between his teeth and kept running with it. I paused to hear the "still small voice". Conclusion? Combat, internal or external for personal justification is not of Christ. I stopped posting for a while.

What happened between Ian and I was of no consequence per se. BUT it caused me to pray much about my position with God, Ian's position with God and the puerile nature of this forum, despite what is purported to be its purpose (sticking feathers in a weasel doesn't make it a duck).

I pray that God's will be done, not men's will. I pray for Ian and will continue so to do. And I pray for you.

At the least, there is a need to grow up and stop acting like infants in a sand box. At most, there are weightier things to pray and care for, other than egos and who is more important, more right and least to blame in the sandbox!

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Date Posted:26/04/2008 2:34 AMCopy HTML

Wise words fremde thank you
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Reply to TBerry (26/04/2008 10:50:45)
Talmid, are you going to now assume ian's position as the official responder to everything posted on this forum?
Aaaah ... the best defence is offence eh? Nice riposte ... "official responder" ... cool.

Would it matter if I did? But ...

Nope. Consider the evidence. Did I say anything to Fremde (before he addessed me directly)? Haven't got the time, energy or inclination, but out of politeness I'll tend to reply to comments addressed to me, when I drop in.

And I'll probably add the occasional other comment when I see fit.

You know there's a proverb that when the wise and the fool meet, the wise is the one who learns the most. Might I suggest therefore that in your wisdom you ponder my 'foolish remarks'.
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Date Posted:26/04/2008 5:27 AMCopy HTML

 Fremde,

I appreciate your prayers for me, and I shall pray for you too. Might I say that I think it might be wise if you follow the principles of Mt 18 regarding your interactions with, and opinions of, Ian. They're really none of my business.

To be honest with you, I must say that I seem to see some things differently from you e.g, whether, or in what way "personal justification" or "egos" *have* been an issue, and whether "a spade should be called a spade". But I have no desire to be involved in a drawn out discussion which I suspect will change neither of our perception.

So ... we journey on and throw ourselves on the mercy of Christ ... eh

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Date Posted:26/04/2008 10:17 AMCopy HTML

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Date Posted:26/04/2008 10:45 AMCopy HTML

All,

I think it was Mark Twain who once quipped, "...news of my demise has been grossly exaggerated!" I simply posited an absence as an idea (and one I am still humouring, more earnestly now); clearly some took my comments to mean much more than what I intended.

In any case, it has been enlightening to read the commentary of the past few days. I suppose one thing has struck me: that certain people have demonstrated themselves to be as I always imagined they were (both positively and negatively) Undecided

Anyway, clearly there are a few very fragile egos attached to some of the regulars here, and one or two whose penchant for boasting must surely make me look like a lesser form of Moses! Well, I suppose it pays to know where one stands.

I doubt that I'll be as active here into the future as I have been in the past. I think I'd rather drink from less bitter waters
Laughing

Cheerio,

Ian

P.S. It was interesting to 'hear' from a very few who have taken the opportunity to share of their opinions, all of a sudden. Very interesting indeed!
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Date Posted:26/04/2008 1:11 PMCopy HTML

Ya gotta find this pretty funny hey? A few shoutbox talkbackers comment on Ian's writing style here and random blah blah follows... He leaves the convo with a wink, and that's about that.


Tberry starts rejoicing and complaring the momentous occassion to a Revival church 'split' no less. As if this forum is a church or something that could internally implode. This forum is but a handful of regulars, with a similar background (to a degree) but very different 'foregrounds' from the countless number of people that have turned their backs on Revival due to its falsity and/or cult like tendencies.

Fremde starts with the "told you sos" and lets us know he's been personally communicating with God about the various individuals involved, in the hope that 'gods' will will be done, which is pretty much a 'given' in regard to this sort of prayer petitioning... (I posted a pic earlier that I thought was kinda funny).


Episkopeo (what is it with all the cryptic names?) had some friends pop into the forum for the first time and thought, "well I never..." when perhaps discovering that ex-Revivalists are as imperfectly human as they were while in the house of tongues. Which brings me to the puzzling TrollBerry quote, "Plenty to say but nothing to give - you guys are like everyone else." - and yes always plenty to say; and no, always heaps to give; and yes, pretty much like everyone else... all out of Revival (whew) but no better than anyone in or out of it.
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Date Posted:26/04/2008 5:25 PMCopy HTML

Hey, Moth, 
Have noted your above remarks with interest - and humour.   What about self in this little circus?    ( Likened to a little boy enjoying the schoolyard fight while it's on, eh - prancing around and interjecting on the periphery)

Then when it's all over we have - quote from Shoutbox:-
Moth:  Heck, MS - not a leader in any shape, way or form.  I just host this little shoutbox, but am thinking it might have been wise to get rid of it if this is the result.

This in reply to MS - quote:-  Boy what a day, Mothy, you as the leader did your job.  Thank you.  That was a great team effort.  We need to as a team pull together to make this forum a friendly, helpful haven for all to grow and move forward to help heal the needy,,,,,,,etc.

God's blessing to you

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Date Posted:26/04/2008 8:56 PMCopy HTML

 Yo Moth,

re: the pic

I figured I'd been pwned. While as you would expect I think prayer-petition *is* doing something, I actually reckon that action is generally needed too.

Ian

"... as often .." - eh. I for one hope you'll at least post when Rev'rs try to defend their doctrine, even though we ex-Rev'rs take less well to challenging our own beliefs.
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Date Posted:27/04/2008 1:35 AMCopy HTML

Have noted your above remarks with interest - and humour.  

Thanks for the interest, and glad you found some humour.

What about self in this little circus? ( Likened to a little boy enjoying the schoolyard fight while it's on, eh - prancing around and interjecting on the periphery)

Yeah, these girly hissy fit playground fights are always fun to poke at, but who really wants to throw in slaps amongst them eh? And then about the melodramatic exchange between myself and M.S.? What is interesting about that?

As for the prayer petitioning, Talmud, do you think nagging works with this god?
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Date Posted:27/04/2008 7:08 PMCopy HTML

As for the prayer petitioning, Talmud, do you think nagging works with this god?

Nagging per se - nope. Asking according to His will - yep. As I'm sure you could point out, that of course leaves me with a convenient excuse for not getting what I'm asking.

BTW Talmid/Talmud = 2 different animals. I guess it was just a typo. Undecided
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Date Posted:27/04/2008 10:39 PMCopy HTML

God's will is that His kingdom be established on earth as in heaven, we pray for this.
The scriptures already tell us what His will is for those that believe in Jesus, all we need to do is give thanks for that.
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Date Posted:29/04/2008 9:46 PMCopy HTML

Good morning, TBerry.

Ian Gone hey?!
Well, clearly I've not gone anywhere Wink And, just as clearly it seems that you are back! (Did you ever really leave? I do wonder)

Plenty to say but nothing to give - you guys are like everyone else.

Then perhaps you can rectify matters? Now that you've decided to re-surface here (the timing of you doing so was a little saucy, though), why don't you resume where you left off in our other discussion? Or could it be a case of you having "plenty to say but nothing to give", hmmm?

Let's see, shall we?

Ian
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Date Posted:02/05/2008 2:06 AMCopy HTML

If Ian leaves then the whole world outside Revival Fellowship implodes.  Ian represents all the 6 billion people (minus a few) who are not Revival members.  He is our GOD.

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Reply to is_aimoo_guest (01/05/2008 20:06:31)

If Ian leaves then the whole world outside Revival Fellowship implodes. Ian represents all the 6 billion people (minus a few) who are not Revival members. He is our GOD.

I don't know that he's that but I do get the impression he makes Revivalist leaders very, very nervous!
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