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Date Posted:12/12/2007 7:30 AMCopy HTML


An indepth ABC Radio interview with an ex-member (Sue D) of Revival Centres International.

"Very controlling lifestyle"

"Didn't allow a capacity to grow"

"Women were second class citizens"

"Ten percent tithing"

"allowed to socialize outside of the organisation but only to try and witness to them and bring them along to the fellowship"

"Learning finances, being educated and learning to socialise" were three main deficiencies brought about by life in the Revival Church.

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Re:I escaped from a cult (Sue D.)

Date Posted:12/12/2007 7:24 PMCopy HTML

How wonderful! She got out of a cult by adopting a new cult mentality and lost her marriage as a result. She obviously cared more about self than love and nurture of her family. Thank God my wife had more reason and respect for her marriage vows. I never cease to be amazed at people who deal with irrationality with a different irrationality. If one shoots one self in the foot, shooting the other foot might even things up but it doubles the pain.

Thanks for your posting.....it serves as a good warning for stupidity.

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Date Posted:13/12/2007 6:33 AMCopy HTML

Not every person has the same situation as you sir. Some wives stay with their jerk husbands and live a miserable life that affect their children deeply. Sometimes it's cruel to be kind but I doubt you're experienced enough in the wider world to understand that. It all comes with maturity.
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Date Posted:13/12/2007 10:03 PMCopy HTML

I am 59 and I have been married almost 37 years. When Jesus said We'd have abundance of life he wasn't fooling. I reckon we have had the equivalent life and experiences of at least six other people. In the day of judgement we sure won't be able to say we had a boring life! The cult tried its best to pull our marriage apart. I left the cult and my wife stayed. But she had the sense to realise that chucking in the marriage was not only stupid but unscriptual. Eventually she had enough of the ungodliness and left too. You have no concept of what we went through. Years of doubting and blaming (not each other, we weren't gong to fall for that). Sniping and hate from people we reckoned to be our friends. By now, by the grace of God we look forward to our final years together. And if God should part us by death, then He is in charge. He has the master plan.

You obviously ignore the scriptures of the two being one flesh etc and perhaps have no depth of understanding about forgiveness. Jesus made the ultimate forgiveness for not only those who crucified him, but for all our sins. Do you as a servant think you are greater than your Lord?

Life is a big test. God by His grace gives us the chance to re-sit the exams. Just like the Prodigal Son. But if you chuck it in and burn the exam papers, and never try again, you destroy your chance.

It's also all about taking responsibility for your own actions, very unfashionable these days. Wallowing in self pity is stagnation for the soul. I knew a woman that lost her husband in her 60s and started a very successful business on her own from scratch with nothing. She sure didn't wallow!

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Date Posted:14/12/2007 2:44 AMCopy HTML

 

 

How are they for some ensight on the destruction that the 'CULT' has done.. Reading these not only makes Me cry but gives me hope ! !

 

I joined in 2005 because my girlfriend at the time got sucked in.. We were advised not To speak or see each other for around 6-9 months.. Then in Novemeber 2006 we married in the cult.. 

 

I experienced all the Steps others have. Firstly, the doubt. then the confirmation that things do not add up.. I witnessed decet liars and double standards.

 Knowing that I wanted to leave but if  I did I would loose my wife and 10 yr old (step son).. I continued attending until I became suicidal.. I had to front my doubts and tell my wife that I couldNot attend any longer..

I was shown by unsaved family articles and print outs that proved it was a cult.. I left the Cult in early 2007.  By April my wife had kicked me out.. Because we did Not share the same faith.. I was consumed by satin..

In Sept 07 my wife took me back in the house and we just fitted.. I know she loves me and love conquers all..

 But then in Oct I was away on business and recieved a phone call. It was my wife telling me not to bother coming home. The Marriage is over.. I could not believe I was 8,000km away from home ina Motel room and listening to this.. I was powerless.  And that s how they do it. PREY on the weak and vunerable.

I could Not believe I was hearing my beautiful wife of 10 months saying that I am unsaved and going to hell And she does not want me to drag her to hell as Well.

Its almost unbelievable but when my wife went to hang up the phone on Me while I was pouring tears of a broken heart  -she didnt realise she had NOT humg up.  And then it happened I heard the pastor in the back ground talking to her telling her how evil I am and that I have mental problems and that if I call back to just say' I dont love you anymore and to leave me alone'  Quoting what the pastor was saying to my wife..

That was the last time i spoke or saw my wife.. The locks had been changed and I wasn't even aloud to say  'happy birthday or good bye to the little 10 yrold man in my life..

 The Revivalist movement cares only for themselves. They are evil and destroy marriages and families.. And they truely believe that they are right.

 

I still live in hope that my wife calls, writes anything just to say 'hi' I love that woman and those assholes that think that they are doing Gods work, well yours will come....

You took everything in My life that I loved !!! My wife and little man.. I will never stop praying to the God my God not the GRC god for my wife To see the light..

 

such good stories I hope I have not rambled too much and not offended anyone.

NHH and ALL GRC Goons set the down trotten free !!! ! ! ! ! ! ! You have NO RIGHT TO BRAINWASH GODS PEOPLE...       

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Re:I escaped from a cult (Sue D.)

Date Posted:14/12/2007 8:51 AMCopy HTML

You obviously ignore the scriptures of the two being one flesh etc and perhaps have no depth of understanding about forgiveness. Jesus made the ultimate forgiveness for not only those who crucified him, but for all our sins. Do you as a servant think you are greater than your Lord?

Life is a big test. God by His grace gives us the chance to re-sit the exams. Just like the Prodigal Son. But if you chuck it in and burn the exam papers, and never try again, you destroy your chance.

Yeah... I'd ignore that scripture too under some circumstances... sheeshh, it's that mentality that has some women abused throughout their whole life as they endure mental or physical abuse. Obviously you weren't a drug addicted alcoholic mentally or socially maligned jerk. Lucky for your wife hey?

No, life isn't a test. That's stupid.. sorry, but it is. Step back and think about it. There are no exams to resit. There are just experiences we hopefully learn from. Sometimes the lesson is, 'Get the hell away from your husband or die being submissive'. Obviously the happy happy joy joy situations like yours aren't the same as everyone.

There's forgiveness and there's stupidity.

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Re:I escaped from a cult (Sue D.)

Date Posted:15/12/2007 1:26 AMCopy HTML

You don't ignore the scriptures, you gnash upon them. In your haste you trip over, go headlong over the cliff of self pity and land in the stagnant pool of stupidity.

Where did it say in the above article that her husband was drug addicted or alcoholic? You're also wrong about me. By reason of the fact I had been part of the cult for a long time, I was a maligned jerk, so was my wife. Your reasoning skills are pretty poor. Have you considered not behaving like a maligned jerk yourself?

I don't believe in luck. My relationship with my wife has nothing to do with luck. On both sides it has required a lot of love, patience, forgiveness, nurture, self sacrifice to name just a few things.

Sadly you also confuse forgiveness with submissiveness, which I neither suggested nor advocate.

Happy happy joy joy? A family member murdered. Robbed almost to ruin. Near death experiences. You again assume a lot. Do you think life is perfect and without trials for anyone that is positive? In the world I have tribulation, but Jesus said to be of good cheer because He overcame the world. He can and does for me too!

Perhaps if you watched less of Ren & Stimpy (though I do confess I think I know the entire words to "Happy, happy, joy, joy") and leaned some humility, you could understand that some have gotten on with their lives by looking forwards not wallowing or sliding into oblivion.

It is sad you are so bitter, but it is sadder that you want everyone else to be bitter. Grow up, for your own sake.

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Re:I escaped from a cult (Sue D.)

Date Posted:15/12/2007 1:06 PMCopy HTML

So if I call you stupid, you'll call me stupid. That's fair enough I suppose. Cheap, but fair.

My reasoning skills weren't factoring in the unknown facts about your life and I wasn't really focusing on the article either, so sorry about that. They were more general... you think the bible laws should be applied to everything, as if they were incantations... pffft. It aint all cut and dried and it seems you know that.

You don't believe in luck? I'm afraid you need to take a basic course in probability. If you roll a dice you have a one in six chance of rolling a particular number. Those basic rules apply in real life but not (apparently) in yours. My friend's sister died in a car accident recently... she was unlucky that the other driver on the road was a lunatic. Sheesh... you don't believe in luck. Try getting a clue and losing the bravado.

Yep, Jesus always comes through because in your mindset, everything works for a reason. Therefore Jesus always wins, no matter how messed up things get. We actually do have an ability to adapt and keep on keeping on. That goes for Christians and non-christians. Don't underestimate our resiliency as a species.

Here comes the bitter thing again. Yeah yeah whatever. Those sticks and stones have been bouncing off me here for years. Just because I call you a bit ignorant for lugging out your archaic submission forgiveness routine on the poor old battered wives (and husbands) of this world doesn't mean I'm screaming at my computer and self-harming myself while listening to Evanescence.

Now back to my Ren and Stimpy episodes... you really should download the uncensored episodes that never aired! Oh MY GOD... what the hell were they thinking, and what the heck were they ON.

Thanks for playing.

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Re:I escaped from a cult (Sue D.)

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Hmm... i just came across this thread and found it quite fascinating.  I grew up in the RCI with Sue Durrants children and knew her husband who has re-married since they split.  Some things about it annoy me though, i mean under RCI doctrine you can't divorce your partner unless they have an affair, plenty of people i know in the church across numerous assemblies have been told they are obliged to stay with their partner and not allowed to leave them no matter how unhappy they are, the only way they can seperate via a divorce is if their partner is unfaithful.  My mother had to go through this also, it wasn't enough that we were raided by the police weekly and had our possesions destroyed because of my fathers extracurricular activities.  Nor was it enough that our home was a warehouse for illicit drugs.  Another woman in my local assembly was told she couldn't divorce her husband despite the fact that he was a violent alcoholic who beat her when he got drunk (and this had gone on for over 15 years and they had 4 children together throughout it).  Nothing like going to a Sunday meeting and seeing your friends mothers pitiful attempt to hide a black eye.  I know the bible says turn the other cheek but there's such a thing as common sense.

  In regard to whether she should have stayed with her husband...I was told by (her daughter) Chloe when we were young at a kids camp (not long after her parents break up) that she remembered her parents agruments vividly and still had nightmares about them.  Although she didn't like the fact that her father eventually re-married i'd say given the hurt i saw her go through it was probably better off they never stayed together anyway. 

There's so much talk of staying together for the childrens sake and as much as i'd love to have grown up in a family with two loving parents that certainly wasn't going to happen in my situation.  Sometimes there are irreconcilable differences...it is somewhat of a utopian ideal to entertain the illusion that no matter what happens a couple will strive on and over come all adversaries and tribulations. Sometimes people get to a point in a relationship where they hit a wall, where they are so ridiculously unhappy or simply just refuse to make compromises anymore.  Why subject your children to a display like that? Is bringing them up emotionally impotent with warped ideas of how a marriage or loving relationship is to be really better than splitting up and conveying to them the importance of exercising more caution and tolerance than you did regarding marriage?

Anyhow they're all hypothetical questions and i don't have the answers you just have to take it on a case to case basis and there's no point being judgemental about this womans situation or anyone elses eve if you DO know all the circumstances surrounding the affair.  I for one am glad my parents split up, they certainly weren't made for eachother and as i am told they were herded into marriage at a Brisbane RCI meeting as it was the right thing to do given my mother had just fallen pregnant with my oldest sister.

"That's right love, marry the drug dealer who has just turned up drunk to your own wedding, have this ring someone else in the crowd kindly donated because your boyfriend never bothered to buy one and you will be doing the right thing" Hallelujah Praise the Lord etc.

My father didn't last long in the church following that incident (no suprises there).

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Re:I escaped from a cult (Sue D.)

Date Posted:26/06/2010 6:17 AMCopy HTML

 What I read too much of on this aimoo site are people picking apart others for what they would or would not do. And just by posting this I am part of the problem but as least I know this.

Why can't we just listen to others stories and leave it at that?
Why can't we all group together and fight the powers that be and not each other?
Why can't we do more to help each other and not pick apart what mistakes we feel others have made in the cult or now having left?
I am getting tired of feeling that some of us need to attack others to make us feel better about what we might or not might have done.

Life is short make the most of it and be of good cheer not bitterness
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 What I read too much of on this aimoo site are people picking apart others for what they would or would not do. And just by posting this I am part of the problem but as least I know this.

Why can't we just listen to others stories and leave it at that?
Why can't we all group together and fight the powers that be and not each other?
Why can't we do more to help each other and not pick apart what mistakes we feel others have made in the cult or now having left?
I am getting tired of feeling that some of us need to attack others to make us feel better about what we might or not might have done.

Life is short make the most of it and be of good cheer not bitterness


Good post. I agree. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

It's nice to be reminded that we should be here for one another, not in spite of one another.

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 I was in RCI and am so glad I left. I had had enough of leading a life that was not true for me. I was married in it and left the man and he remarried and divorced me there was no adultery and he then remarried again after that. I am so glad I am out and not involved with this and totally understand the courage you have to have to stand against this group. what hypocrites. Darryl Williams told me I had to stay with my husband or I would be tempting him?????? What about me do I just forget i don't love this man and let him have sex with me so he is not tempted I am not responsible for his life.Have to go to bed but have more to say. It is interesting to recently revisit all these feelings and experiences as I left a long time ago. It is not a healthy place and am glad I am out and survived.
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Date Posted:31/08/2010 11:23 AMCopy HTML

Thanks for sharing your story. It must have been so hard for you. It's great to hear that you are happy now! You had a lot of courage to leave. I respect that.

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