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LeeLee41
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Date Posted:11/12/2015 8:40 PMCopy HTML

I've met people who belong to the CAI in USA. My experience is that the people are totally brainwashed into believing the founder is innocent of all charges simply because of bible prophesy.
It alarms me how brainwashed they are. Am I right to worry that they're vulnerable to other forms abuse within the "church" even now that the founder is gone. Will they wake up from the lies they've been fed?
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Re:How bad is the CAI in other countries?

Date Posted:15/12/2015 8:03 AMCopy HTML

 Dear LeeLee41,

I will try to answer you briefly. To your heading: About the same. Scott was - as you may know - rather "militaristic" in the way he organised the "church". It may be "worse" in the countries near pastors/"senior officers", who may be more keen to "set the teaching through". Those countries would be Australia and Scotland primarily, but also Germany (where several members tend to be very loyal to "the teaching") as well as north America due to the work of the "teaching department head" who is residing there.

Yes, they are brainwashed and so was I. While one is in it, one tends to blame oneself when being rebuked by the leadership, tinking one is at fault of have approached them in a wrong manner. It took some study of what Jesus did for us and that most "churches" get it wrong in applying Old Testament teaching which has been replaced by the new Covenant of faith in Him alone, being transformed from inside out.... and with that conviction, it still took quite a streak of "rebellion" (their definition) to go against their teaching. Their teaching is held above the Bible itself. I am in prayer that The Lord will open the eyes of them one by one. Book tip: "Twisted Scriptures" by by Mary Alice Chrnalogar.

My personal opinion is that "abuse" seems to have quitened down after the revealing events of 2006, the trial, the ABC documentary and all that followed. People still within are making comments like "things have changed now". The current leaders seem happy to settle at a lower standard as long as people are loyal and the money is coming in. This is only my personal thoughts though, and I may be wrong. I believe some will wake up from the lies they've been fed, but some may not. Let's pray for each invididual loved one still in there.
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Re:How bad is the CAI in other countries?

Date Posted:15/12/2015 2:43 PMCopy HTML

 I will pray for them. I feel I have to remove myself from their lives at times but I am close enough to help if the need arises. They are my neighbours.

I worry that they are easy prey for other abusive types.
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Re:How bad is the CAI in other countries?

Date Posted:15/12/2015 4:32 PMCopy HTML

Thanks! Being there for them in time of need is the best you can do - apart from praying. But naturally, keep the distance when need be ;-). 

It may not benefit you to worry about their vulnerability to other potential abusers, though.

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Date Posted:16/12/2015 1:54 AMCopy HTML

 To be honest I mostly keep my distance. I worry about my own safety sometimes. I figure staying out of it as much as I can is best for both of us.
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Re:How bad is the CAI in other countries?

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Reply to TwikieB

Book tip: "Twisted Scriptures" by by Mary Alice Chrnalogar.

Hi TwikieB

Does this book speak about such scriptures s Hebrews 13"7 & 17 ?

If it does then I would surely buy it. These were scriptures (as you most likely do know) that were heavily used in the past.

Sincerely

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My personal opinion is that "abuse" seems to have quitened down after the revealing events of 2006, the trial, the ABC documentary and all that followed.

Did the big stroke not stop all the homo stuff ?
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The current leaders seem happy to settle at a lower standard as long as people are loyal and the money is coming in.

sorry TwikieBI hope you do not think I am picking on your comments that is not my intention in any way I promise you.

They cannot have much money now surely, with so many people left and with stopping mandatory tithing I wonder how they manage at all. A guy that I am in touch with who is still in the group told me there is only around 200+ adults left - is this true ?
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Re:How bad is the CAI in other countries?

Date Posted:13/09/2016 8:38 AMCopy HTML

 Hi Flatearth,

Apologies for this late post. I've not been on the site for a long time.

1. Yes, "Twisted Scriptures" deals with Heb 13:7 & 17. As does for example this: http://www.awildernessvoice.com/GEC-Chapter2.html

2. Not at all.  Your comments are fine. I don't know how many are still in it. It is now over 2 years ago since the wave where we/I left. I would guess many still "tithe" - the "instructions" on the change in teaching on tithing was a clear as much of the other CAI teaching (i.e. mud-like ;-) )... I keep praying and am more than willing to help/give answers to anyone interested to leave.  

Take care,

TwikieB

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