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http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=192Depending on which denomination of Christianity one subscribes to, any combination of the following bible verses can be used to justify how one is saved:By Hearing the Gospel & Belief in God:John 5:24: "He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life."By Baptism:John 3:5: "Jesus answered, 'I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.'"By Grace & Faith, not Works:Ephesians 2:8,9: "For by grace are ye saved through faith ... not of works."By Faith & Works:James 2:17: "Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone."By Keeping the Law:Matthew 19:17: "... if thou wilt enter unto life, keep the commandments."By Belief in Christ:John 3:16: "... whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."By Belief and Baptism:Mark 16:16: "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."By Words:Matthew 12:37: "For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned."By Calling on the Lord:Acts 2:21: "whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."Not Works but by Grace & Baptism:Titus 3:5: "Not by works ... but according to his mercy ... by the washing of regeneration." (Note: some denominations will say the washing refers to Christ's blood and sacrifice.)According to Proverbs 16:4:God made the "wicked" for "the day of evil" (i.e. judgment & damnation). Of course, this makes no sense in light of passages that confirm or suggest that Jesus died for a small number of the elect; or that suggest all will be saved: John 1:29, 4:42, 1 Corinthians 15:29, Hebrews 2:9, 1 John 4:14.Salvation Available to the Chosen Few:Matthew 7:14, 22:14, Luke 12:32, 13:24, John 6:37,65,15:16,19, Romans 8:29, 9:11-23, Ephesians 1:4.Salvation Available to Those Who Desire it:Matthew 7:7-8, 11:28, John 3:16, 5:40, 7:37, Acts 2:21, Revelations 3:20.Now I'm sure some critics will say I'm taking those verses "out of context." Well, to those critics I ask that a "context" be clearly defined and followed among Christians before you criticize my observations. If these rules were clearly defined among Christians, one would not see various Christian denominations debating the ritual of baptism, women as preachers, interpretation of scripture, and the Trinitarian concept. Putting those critics aside for the moment, this leads us to the present day state of affairs among the various denominations of Christianity. Granted, I'm no theologian, but one would think a perfect God who knows "everything" would have foreseen what these contradictions would do to his followers' faith. One would think that a perfect God would have directed His followers to writeonesacred book. One would think that this one book would detail just exactly how one is to be "saved" and that this plan would be uniformly followed--at least among Christians. More importantly, one would think that Christianity would agree on just exactly how one is "saved." Of course, once again confusion reigns!
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Christian Denomination
Authority
How one is "saved"
Can Women Preach?
Number of Members
Southern Baptists




(Endnotes 1, 2 & 17)

Southern Baptists generally subscribe to a literal interpretation of the Protestant Bible; some liberal sects do not. Authority is left to each local church.
Baptism (by immersion) seen as a public testimony to the commitment to Christ (infant or preconversion baptisms not practiced); some require baptism, some do not. Belief in God, eternal covenant between the Father and the Son about the redemption of the elect, repentance of sin. Communion is seen as symbolic.
Conservatives say no, liberals say yes. Currently subject to much controversy.
15,619,912

(USA)

Christian Science






(Endnotes 3, 4, & 17)

Interpretation of Scripture and rules outlined by Mary Baker Eddy in the Manual of The Mother Church (1895) and Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures (1875).
Salvation is seen as rescue from materiality. They deny the existence of sin and think Jesus was a man. Communion is taken to be the union of God through prayer, and baptism the continual presence of regeneration.
Do not have ordained ministers. Women can help conduct services.
Exact numbers not available per founders' instructions
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod

(Endnotes 18 & 19)

Literal interpretation of the Protestant Bible. Lutherans stress education through adherence to doctrine.
Grace alone through faith, belief in Christ's sacrifice; baptism is "generally" required. Lutherans believe that Christ's body and blood are present "during" communion (i.e., consubstantiation).
Missouri Synod, no. Some liberal sects, yes.
Missouri Synod: 2,582,440

(USA)

Eastern Orthodox

(Endnotes 20 & 21)

Bible, tradition, and the first seven Church Councils up to Nicea II.
Christ's resurrection and purity of faith, baptism, but not works. The Holy Eucharist and confession are seen as acts of worship and spiritual healing.
No
225,000,000

(World)

Oneness Pentecostal

(Endnotes 3, 6, 22 & 36)

Literal interpretation of the Bible with a focus on New Testament salvation.
Accepting Jesus; baptism in the name of Jesus; speaking in tongues, and adherence to the rules of the "community" essential. One must also be "born again." Oneness Pentecostals do not affirm the traditional notion of the Triune God.
Some liberal sects yes, most no.
Conflicting data, over 1,000,000 estimated

(World)

Roman Catholic





(Endnotes 7, & 23)

Pope, church councils, and the Catholic Bible which contains seven additional books compared to the Protestant version. Truth is found in scripture, as interpreted by the church.
Merit gained through God's grace, belief in Christ's sacrifice, and baptism. Good works performed under the influence of the Holy Spirit. Believes the Eucharist becomes the body and blood of Christ and the change is permanent (i.e., transubstantiation).
No
1,043,000,000

(World)

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

(Endnotes 3 & 8)

Literal interpretation of the The Book of Mormon which was written by Joseph Smith after receiving knowledge from an angel. Future revelations through modern day prophets.
Christ's sacrifice saves all who obey the law. Baptism and obeying the law (10 Commandments). Baptism is considered essential for the dead and the living, even though the rites will not finally save them. Communion is symbolic and Mormons do not believe in the Triune God.
No
11,300,000

(World)

Jehovah's Witnesses

(Endnotes 3, 9, & 25)

Literal interpretation of New World Translation of the Bible (their own translation).
Faith and works, 144,000 "elect" will be saved. Non-elect must earn salvation via works; baptism seen as symbolic. Only those who believe they are of the 144,000 "elect" may partake of communion; therefore, the instruments are just passed around but no one partakes because the elect are not known at this time.
No
14,800,000

(World)

Quakers

(Endnotes 26 & 27)

The Holy Spirit inspired the writing of the Bible and the Holy Spirit will help you to understand it.
Some "Friends" believe Christ was divine; some do not. All emphasize Christ's teachings. Friends do not believe in sacraments or baptism. Salvation is not through Christ's sacrifice; rather, it's through spiritual growth and the emulation of Christ.
Yes
Conflicting data, over 1,000,000 estimated

(World)

Church of Christ



(Endnotes 10 & 15)

Literal interpretation of New Testament Scripture only, Old Testament is used for historical reference.
To be saved one must hear the word, believe in Christ, repent, confess, & be baptized--God's grace is also key. Baptism is practiced at adulthood and the Lord's Supper is an act of thankful remembrance to be carried out weekly. Musical instruments are prohibited by scripture.
No
2,000,000

(World)

Disciples of Christ

(Endnotes 12 & 16)

Adherence to New Testament scripture only, Old Testament is used for historical reference. Some sects believe in literal interpretation, some do not.
Salvation is similar to the Church of Christ though the Disciples will accept transfer baptisms. The Lord's Supper is an act of thankful remembrance to be carried out weekly. (Disciples of Christ broke with the Church of Christ and generally are more liberal. Neither sect affirms creeds or doctrine.)
Yes
Conflicting data, over 1,000,000 estimated

(USA)

Episcopal Churches

(Anglican or Church of England)

(Endnotes 11, 28 & 29)

Catholic or Protestant Bible interpreted through church authority and the rule of faith.
Salvation through grace as well as personal responsibility; belief in Christ's sacrifice and baptism. The Lord's Supper is seen as symbolic.
Some yes, some no.
68,000,000

(World)

Methodist






(Endnotes 30 & 31)

Founded by Reverend John Wesley; desire to follow the Protestant Bible interpreted by tradition and reason; worship varies by denomination.
Both faith and good works belong within an all-encompassing theology of grace; communion and the baptism of infants and adults are practiced though not necessarily essential to salvation.
Most allow women as pastors
11,708,887

(World)

Seventh-Day Adventist





(Endnotes 3, 13, & 32)

Literal interpretation of Scripture, prophecies and writings of founder Ellen White. Seventh-Day Adventists observe Saturday as the Sabbath.
Generally, baptism via immersion is essential; also works via "investigative judgment." God reviews each persons' works and each person is judged for faithfulness or unfaithfulness. Jesus does not forgive their sins, but shows their penitence and faith to God. The Lord's Supper is a participation in the symbols of the body and blood of Jesus, though Christ is present.
Most no, some yes.
11,300,000

(World)

Presbyterian Church



(Endnotes 17 & 33)

The reformers based all of their claims on "sola scripture," the scriptures alone; therefore, the Bible is the inspired and inerrant word of God and guides all.
Baptism seen as symbolic ritual; salvation through God's Grace; belief in Christ's sacrifice, emphasis on works and "The Great Commission." Believe that The Lord's Supper is seen as symbolic though Christ is present in spirit. "The doctrine of predestination frees us from speculating about who is saved and who is not. God has already taken care of these matters in the mystery of God's own being." (see note # 33)
Yes
3,700,000

(USA)

United Church of Christ

(Endnotes 34 & 35)

Scripture is inspired in thought and word and is the supreme and final authority, though most do not subscribe to a literal interpretation.
Baptism seen as symbolic; faith in Christ's sacrifice and God's grace. The Lord's Supper is also seen as symbolic.
Yes
Conflicting data, over 1 million estimated

(USA)

According to the 2001 edition of the World Christian Encyclopedia, there are 33,800 Christian denominations around the world. Just trying to research 16 such denominations was extremely challenging. Not only did I find variation between denominations, but also many times I found conflicting information within the same denomination on how one is saved. If these various groups cannot even agree (and believe me, some argue among themselves!) on a few basic beliefs, how can they seriously expect any outsider to consider their claims as valid?

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Take the time to read this one too.  It will really do your head in.

 

How To Be Saved (1880)

Robert Green Ingersoll

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/how_to_be_saved.html

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in reply to the first post.

 

How about doing them all! at least you know you are doing what God expects..

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