Lurpak is the best thing that came from Denmark!  Isn't there an additional Lurpak Lite now?

"Revival World" is a way of life, but it is not real life. Nor is it biblical life. The scenario played out truly does become "Goodies vs Baddies" with dangers and problems seen absolutely everywhere.

My incredulity at my own previous stupidity is known by those who visit this website and used to know me, so no more self flagellation now.

The imaginary dangers extend out even further, and problems are seen amongst even those who believe the same things - RF see dangers with RCI/CAI and GRC, RCI see dangers with RF/GRC/CAI, GRC see dangers in RF/RCI/CAI, and CAI.......do you see what I mean? Each group knows they are right, and can articulate why. This graceless disease of the mind really knows no bounds.

I was in RF. It was always RF vs The World. When a small group breaks from the main body of which ever branch, it can become Small Group vs Revival vs The World - an immediate increase in perceived problems, compromisers and potential enemies.

Goodies and Baddies, a symptom of Revival World. It can extend out as far as any person wants it too.

I get pm messages from current and ex-members, and with current members I notice the same thing. They make contact, I reply, and then the fear grips them, it can almost be smelt through the computer. They become aware of transgressing expected behavioural requirements of the cult. They are on the verge of starting up a correspondence with a "fall away". They then disappear into the night.

I remember a London RF'er telling me that although we had left, he was going to keep in touch no matter what, and hang the consequences! Very brave, I thought at the time. Weeks later the "pastor" of his group said he wished to speak to him. My friend pre-empted the reason, called me, and said "I'm phoning to say that I'm breaking contact with you..and I'll be telling the pastor this"

Revival World had gripped my mate. It turned out to be nothing to do with him talking to me, but he never did make contact again. What did he think God would do to him, and what kind of life is this?


 

Tarquin,

What you describe is as you say not limited to any sect or assembly or anything like that - it is symptomatic of an attitude that you define as 'revival world'.  It reminds me of the scene from Life of Brian where John Cleese is trying to explain that his group are the Judean People's Front (or is it the Popular Front of Judea? I can never remember but that's the point).

I lasted a lot longer than I might have done in the assembly by separating out all the problems I had with the dysfunctional structure of the fellowship and the doctrine that I felt transcended any admin issues.  However the two are entwined.  The controversy of the doctrine creates the siege mentality and the paranoia that everyone is relentlessly fighting against you and you can’t trust anyone… except people in the Revival Centres –I mean people in the Revival Fellowship –I mean people within the Revival Fellowship who are not corrupted – I mean people in the non-corrupted group who hold x opinion about the latest internal controversy –I mean … well I guess I can only really trust myself … then again…

This is what I experienced – an extremely low trust culture for such a supposedly close fraternity.  It is funny how we thought that our assembly ties were much stronger than our ties with friends in the world because we shared a creed.  I guess the guy who called you truly was your friend and for a moment it seemed that this would continue despite your difference of opinion on whether Lloyd was right or wrong about one of his ideas.

Jeremiah99: "oh and lurpak is with us"

he/she is with US.  He/she is with THEM.  us vs them it is exactly what T was talking about.  As I understand it L wants to be able to do her own thing with her own life.  If she feels that being with you is right than great but watch the pressure ok?