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Date Posted：23/05/2007 9:30 AMCopy HTML

I was reading an article today about a young 17 yr old girl who was stoned to death for loving a young man from another religion. How sad! Religion... who needs it?!! And all this done in the name of God! Is this really what He wants? ( rhetorical ) I think not!http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21783123-2,00.htmlRegards... Bindi
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Re：God versus Religion

Date Posted：23/05/2007 10:16 AMCopy HTML

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How sad! Religion... who needs it?!! And all this done in the name of God! Is this really what He wants? ( rhetorical ) I think not!

But you know the God of the Bible not only allows this but also demands this. 

The question is does God actually exist.
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Reply to : bindiHow sad! Religion... who needs it?!! And all this done in the name of God! Is this really what He wants? ( rhetorical ) I think not!But you know the God of the Bible not only allows this but also demands this.The question is does God actually exist.
Allows what?? The stoning of young girls? Which testament are you living in??? Show me a verse in the NT that DEMANDS this kind of abhorant behaviour!! I'm curious to know! ( What a strange response to my post! )
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Date Posted：23/05/2007 11:03 AMCopy HTML

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Allows what?? The stoning of young girls? Which testament are you living in??? Show me a verse in the NT thatDEMANDS this kind of abhorant behaviour!! I'm curious to know! ( What a strange response to my post! )
Bindi, you did not read my post carefully.  I did not say God of NT, I said God of the Bible.  And the Bible contains both NT and Old T.  Yes the Bible allows and demands stoning.  if you are an exrev, you sure would know this.
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Reply to : bindiAllows what?? The stoning of young girls? Which testament are you living in??? Show me a verse in the NT thatDEMANDS this kind of abhorant behaviour!! I'm curious to know! ( What a strange response to my post! )Bindi, you did not read my post carefully. I did not say God of NT, I said God of the Bible. And the Bible contains both NT and Old T. Yes the Bible allows and demands stoning. if you are an exrev, you sure would know this.
Anon... I did read all of your post dear. My point is.. we live in the NEW testament era. Show me a verse in the NEW testament that condones this.
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Can you believe that the kid was stoned to death? Like with a rock or something. Those EVIL EVIL PEOPLE!!! Just think about the number of people the guy ummm what's his name that guy and the other guys with him who had GOD himself tell him talk to him as if having a conversation between two people and told this Damn what's his name? Anyway he told this guy to go and kill these people because "I want you too" Sure it's against the international laws and all that But I'M GOD!! and you will do as I command you to. Damn I can't think of this guys name. It starts with president something. President Gorge, Jorege, George that's it George George Bush. Yes Little Christian George Bush and his pals Tony and John went as Christians to Iraq because GOD!! talked to George this New Testament believing George Bush has killed at least 700,000 Iraq. And more to come GOD WILLING. I don't want it but a lot of people do. I'm so glad that George is going over there and don't forget Afghanistan and in the not too distant future GOD willing Iran. But he's killing those Old Testament stone throwers in the name of the New Testament GOD! Good on you George, Tony and John.
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I had a real good go at stoning myself to death from the mid seventies through to the early eighties. Was quite fun there for a while!

Now Bindi, what is it you're on? Old testament/new testament, why split straws?....... Irrespective of what era we are talking about, for those that want to adhere to (and revere) the bible as a reflection of a true God, it is inescapable that the book describes him commanding mass genocide on living human beings just like you and me. Go over there and slaughter them all, their children and their animals. You know the deal! [isgusted;]

And people expect this book to be taken seriously as an illustration ofd a benevolent God?

Clearly there is something drastically wrong with the thinking of those who stoned the girl you reported, just as there is something wrong with the thinking of people condoning genocide just because it was apparently decreed by some god to prove a point. It makes the book quite unbelievable if you ask me!

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Re：God versus Religion

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Irrespective of what era we are talking about, for those that want to adhere to (and revere) the bible as a reflection of a true God, it is inescapable that the book describes him commanding mass genocide on living human beings just like you and me. illustration ofd a ben

At least the God of the old testament didn't have a thing about punishing the transgressors of the Law for eternity. Punishment without ceasing is not actually punishment at all - it's pointless torture. The Hell concept was brought to the table by Happy Holy Jesus. That's if you read those scriptures with that view. I can easily sympathise with Universalists who believe the Hell Jesus spoke of is a metered out equilibrium.

But yeah, the God of the old testament and therefore the bible was one to give the thumbs up to some very serious immoralitiies, He:

  • Suggests rape was okay
  • states that genocide is fully reasonable
  • said the killing of babies has a place
  • Smearing faeces on people's face is sometimes warranted

Don't believe me? Well if you believe the bible, ask me which one you want backed up very clearly with scripture.

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Re：God versus Religion

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Ok.. point taken guys.. yes, God did indeed command autrocities in the Old Testament. No new news there. But the point of my original post was that we are no longer living in old testament times and yet, still, the abhorant behaviour continues. Its not about God, although they feel that they are doing God a favour by commiting such crimes. Suicide bombings, Terrorist attacks, stoning of people,... need I go on? My point is.. its 'religion' that is causing the wars of the world and the autrocities that go with it. Hey, I'm at the 'questioning' stage of the whole 'God' thing anyways. You should know that from my recent posts. ( If in fact you have been reading them of course! ) But.. Like I said.. this disgusting act of stoning a poor 17 year old GIRL, was done 'in the name of God'. If indeed there is a God, and the bible is the word of God, then we are living in the NT. Where such acts have been done away with. A new covenant has been brought in. Out of curiousity.. did anyone view the actual footage getting around on the net? Made me want to be sick!

Bindi

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