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Date Posted:21/04/2015 12:26 AMCopy HTML

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RB3g6mXLEKk

Hardly exhaustive, but a bit of amusement nonetheless.
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Re:Contradictions in the Bible (a bit of fun)

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Ha ha, Don't worry, on the side of caution, I still go with the 'Jesus group'.
I believe in Christianity as I believe the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C.S.Lewis.
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Ah, Pascal's Wager (there's another thread on it.) What if Islam turns out to be the correct religion, and you're condemned to hell for not being a Muslim?
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Hypothetical question.

I could ask you the same; 

What if Christianity turns out to be correct after all and you're condemned to 'eternal darkness' for wilfully rejecting God's gift of eternal life.

I'd rather go with the sure bet than that which is obviously lame.

Pascal's Wager? yes I know it.


I believe in Christianity as I believe the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C.S.Lewis.
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 I've seen no evidence for god...unless you're promoting that he's really brilliant at the hide in the game of hide and go seek. So good he cannot be found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3AdXaefJ3M
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I've seen no evidence for god...

Matthew 12:38
Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from you."

Matthew 12:39
He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah;  It's easy to interpret this is referring to Christ's death and resurrection and there is plenty of 'writings' that did take place.

Maybe this is the 'crux' of the whole matter. You want to see something before you believe. It doesn't work that way until one believes and that by faith. 

Believing is seeing.

I believe in Christianity as I believe the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C.S.Lewis.
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Your argument has several flaws.

The first and most obvious is that the Pharisees were already god-botherers. What they were asking for (if we believe the bible) was proof about Jesus' claims. Your argument is false-equivalence. I have not seen any proof for god.

Secondly you've invoked the old testament, something you claim you're not an apologist for, but since you've invoked it, I get to use it. What fishy-whale existed to swallow Jonah, and more importantly allowed him to survive three days and three nights in its belly? Also, since it is the story of Jonah, can you please tell what beasts put sackcloth and ashes on themselves and worship Yahweh?

Thirdly, people like Dr Richard Carrier have brought into question whether there was even an historical Jesus. There's no historical or archaeological proof for him that he ever walked the earth. The Josephus claim is bogus for example.

I used to think Jesus was a composite character; made out of two or more actual people. This would account for Jesus being born while Herod the Great still lived, and being born after Herod the Great's death when the Romans took possession of Judea and called for a census (though why Joseph had to return to Bethlehem still requires explanation, since the Romans didn't care about birth origins when it came to census information.) It would also explain why Jesus has two different genealogical lineages and so forth. After listening to Carrier's arguments though, I would now also require proof that an historical Jesus even existed.

Fourthly I used to believe. I de-converted several years ago. Before that I believed in God and Jesus, and the oneness of the trinity. In fact my god glasses were so thick I couldn't see the contradictions, the wickedness of Yahweh or the outright ridiculousness that is contained in the bible. IOW your argument is hollow.
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You state that you 'used' to believe. The question has been asked many times; " Were you really a 'Christian' in the first instance"?


John 10:28-30


28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and the Father are one."


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I was wondering when you would use the no true Scotsman fallacy; some atheists want to update this fallacy to the "No true Christian" fallacy because Christians invoke it so much to once-were-Christian atheists.

Yes, I was once a Christian. I was a regular god-boy. I wrote and preached sermons from the pulpit on an irregular basis. I even tried to remain a Christian after I was excommunicated from the Revival cult.

Trying to quote a no true Scotsman verse at me does nothing to undermine the belief I once had.
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Yes, I was once a Christian. I was a regular god-boy. I wrote and preached sermons from the pulpit on an irregular basis. I even tried to remain a Christian after I was excommunicated from the Revival cult. You can't earn your salvation by those kind of works, by Grace are ye saved and that by 'FAITH' in Christ Jesus.




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 <You can't earn your salvation by those kind of works, by Grace are ye saved and that by 'FAITH' in Christ Jesus.>

OTOH some "works" are also necessary - Mathew 25 31-41
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D-T-M,

Absolutely, they are works of the heart, not works that one might think to gain 'brownie' points.

Rewards in the Kingdom of Heaven are given to those who serve without thought of reward.

There is no hint of 'merit' in these verses, for God gives out of grace, not debt which has already been paid for in Christ.

Grace and peace

Ralph.
 
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