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24/01/2010 +1 =YTD 1
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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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But how many have discreetly left after the Christmas break ?? ,  The time out from a few meetings over Christmas allows folk to quietly disappear.  J

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

Date Posted:25/01/2010 1:51 PMCopy HTML

I'm Out,

That is a good point!  The ever diminishing numbers at RCI over the new year break, those who did not attend the 'swamp' in Melbourne, had the chance to quietly slip away - it is not as if they will be noticed until a few months have gone bye!  Any baptism must be realistically met with a double amount of loss in numbers.

Let's hope more folk come to their senses!

And we will be there for them when they do finally realize the 'pup' they have been sold.

Keep up the good work,

Regards Mr K
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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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Good morning, Paul.

For a truly eye-opening look at the state of "diminishing returns" experienced by the various Revivalist sects in Australia over the past two decades, I'd recommend that you visit a university library and access the digested census data produced by the ABS. To suggest that the RCI, the RF and the GRC is in serious decline would be quite the understatement!

Simply put, the very few "baptisms" that these groups experience in no way, shape or form offsets the significant exodus that takes place from them each and every year! Anecdotally, most of the RCI and RF assemblies that I've visited throughout Australia have had less people in attendance than a number of informal church "home groups" and "Bible study groups" that I've been involved with! And the RCI and RF have less people in fellowship in the countries of Great Britain and the USA, for example, than attend my local church! And that in spite of them being "established works"!

Incidentally, I made a similar study of the New Zealand data a few years ago. Guess what was the outcome?

Blessings,

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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24/01/2010 +1 =YTD 1


Sorry Mole forgive my pessimistic outlook, but was that a true unknown person coming in not related to anyone getting baptised ? or is it a result of a members young one getting baptised at Freshwater swamp this Christmas ?? 

PS Happy 40th Birthday Mr K.


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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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 Sorry to rain on your parade.
A genuine, long time witnessed to, thrilled convert !

Maybe time to get back out there preaching Gods word yourself
and experience the joy of seeing someone find Truth in this cynical old world.
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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

Date Posted:27/01/2010 3:02 AMCopy HTML

Hello Ruth Boaz,

Thanks for the feedback.  Much appreciated, and welcome to the forum.

Please don't assume that we are not preaching God's word and seeing great results, as far as evangelism goes, we are having plenty of baptisms in the churches I frequent, and that is not confined to any age group, we are seeing converts of all ages not only coming to faith, but also in growing in maturity in Christ.  At my last vestry meeting we were all amazed at the sheer growth we have had in the last 12 months, almost a doubling of congregation, and much more expected throughout the year.

We also see a lot of the benefit of "preaching the gospel without words".  I am seeing an amazing working of His Spirit working in the community, and the Church, I think there is not much time to be cynical!

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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Good morning, Ruth.

Preaching God's Word? Is that what you think the RCI does? I put it to you that it's more accurate to suggest that your chosen fellowship preaches the Word of the Lloyd rather than the Word of the Lord.

Blessings,

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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24/01/2010 +1 =YTD 1


Sorry Mole forgive my pessimistic outlook, but was that a true unknown person coming in not related to anyone getting baptised ? or is it a result of a members young one getting baptised at Freshwater swamp this Christmas ?? 

PS Happy 40th Birthday Mr K.


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It was in the Box Hill tank as advised by Mrs Mole. She did not say whether it was a relation of an existing member or someone new who had been witnessed to.

Mrs Mole did not attend any of the camps and has not been told of any baptisms which may have taken place there.

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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 Sunday 31 January 2010

+1 =2

This was a young person who "received" at camp.

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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Hi, Mole.

I think with this issue, homophony is the key: it's not so much the case that the young lass/lad "received" at Camp, more so that s/he was "deceived" at Camp

Blessings,

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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 Sunday 21 February 2010

+1 =3

Another young person maybe 8 YO having "received"

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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Hi, Mole.

Another young soul deceived by a lie; bound to a life of heresy and disappointment. Very, very sad.

Ian

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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9 May 2010. Adult male mid twenties-early thirties.

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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4 July 2010  One baptism, age and sex not reported

11 July 2010  Male mid twenties.

However since the beginning of June there have been two funerals from Box hill, one from Tasmania and two from Warrnambool.

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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And how many young folk have left recently?, I'm told that quite a number have moved on after becoming disillusioned. Richmond AOG isn't a bad spot for them to recover in, there are plenty of youngies and things to do. They look after the young folk there.  It served us for a while.


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 18 July 2010. Female late twenties.

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How do you know she's a mole? She might be a very nice lady.
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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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Mrs Mole has not reported any baptisms lately but there is another funeral on Friday.

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 I know of some bad vibes between some RF members that want to attend and the RCI who are doing the funeral.  Bad taste IMO, but that's the way it is! :-(
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I'm not sure if it has occurred to anyone, but this is all a bit pathetic... You people are like a bunch of crows hanging around some lame animal waiting for it to hurry up and die so that you can go peck at its carcass.

I get that you're all pissed with the gospel according to Simon, but really, it would seem a more fulfilling existence if you went and found bettering things to do with your wonderfully enlightened and, may I say, liberated little lives.

No disrespect, but some of you need a job, and probably, some need to simply visit a house of ill repute and be done with it. It doesn't matter what it is, as long as you move on.

Finally, while most of the stuff in this forum is complete crap (in my humble opinion), I did enjoy when Ian took his little respite from wizard school earlier this year to go and kick up Troy's atheist’s convention.

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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 Thanks for visiting!
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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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Well, I'm glad to have been able to entertain you. However, I'll let you in on a little secret: I would've "kicked up" Troy's nonsense whether you were here to witness (and enjoy) it or not smiley9

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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 Well Guest if you're so "moved on" and not interested in the state of the revival clubs what are you doing visiting an EX-REVIVAL  discussion forum......

Personally, I spend about a millionth of a percent of my time thinking about RC, however, occasionally when bored I spare a thought for the place I spent some years... does this mean I need to go and get laid to over it..

and....... welcome back Ian I missed you.

Tommo


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Thanks, Tom.
Long time, no hear from you too, fella

Blessings,

Ian

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does this mean I need to go and get laid to over it..

any port in a storm m'man
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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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10/10/10

Four baptisms.

Three young persons who "received" at the school camp and one "öff the street"

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31/10/10

One baptism - a female who was witnessed to at Ringwood.

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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Ahh Mole  but how many have left ?? Im hearing Bridge Street (former Richmond AOG),  Has become a haven for many many ex-rciers, I know personaly of a few familys double dipping for a while and trying the waters in both camps until a decision is made, including many who have reciently left, and have found solice there. Personaly we are not involved there, due to the distance in travel,  but we have many friends who are and have heard good reports. Personaly one tends to shy away from ex-rciers now due to all baggage that comes with them, having spent the last 4 years dealing with our own. And believe it or not this site and reading what many have written has helped;

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14/11/2011

Middle aged female - a relative of an assembly member.

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 21 November 2010

Middle aged female.

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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Well, there was a baptism less than 48 hours ago at a house meeting. By the way, that was a Christian full immersion baptism of a believer with the expectation that he would receive the Holy Spirit, not an Ianist infant christening.
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Sardius,

Well, there was a baptism less than 48 hours ago at a house meeting. By the way, that was a Christian full immersion baptism of a believer with the expectation that he would receive the Holy Spirit, not an Ianist infant christening. Well, given that you've identified what took place was an RCI 'baptism', you can rest assured that it doesn't count for Christian baptism. What took place at your gathering was a public bath with clothes on.

By the way, I think you need to refresh yourself on your own sect's teaching. You stated, above, that the person in the bath was a 'believer', who expected to 'receive' the Holy Spirit. According to what your sect promotes, 'no tongues = no Holy Spirit = not a believer'.

Goose.

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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Well, there was a baptism less than 48 hours ago at a house meeting. By the way, that was a Christian full immersion baptism of a believer with the expectation that he would receive the Holy Spirit, not an Ianist infant christening.


Hi Sarius: Might I enquire why you call yourself "Sardius" 

Also you made reference to infant sprinkling as "Ianist"

Is that because Ian thinks that the sprinkling ritual is actually baptism?

Please explain

mj

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Jingles,

I'll respond to this one. 'Sardius' has adopted his n-d-p from the KJV's translation of one of the stones in the High Priest's breastplate, so I guess he believes his opinions are imbued with some sort of 'godly' authority. Second, given that I fully accept sprinkling as a right and proper mode of Christian baptism, he's apparently chosen to 'name' the practice after me. I should be surprised at his level of ignorance, but as he's a Revivalist, I'm not. Sprinkling is an accepted mode of baptism for the overwhelming (a pun) majority of the world's Christians, and has been since 'forever'.

Now how are you getting on with squaring your silly allegations about the Roman Catholic Church against the facts?

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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Ianism is clearly founded on practices which are not found anywhere in the Bible. Sprinkling is not baptism, and nowhere at all is it ever applied to (as yet) unable to believe infants.

The pompous twit fool of a major claims that such practices are acceptable in the church. Well, maybe, but what he completely overlooks is that what counts at the end of the day is what the Lord accepts, and He has given us clear, precise instructions which in no way relate to the false heresy of Ianism.
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 Mrs Mole hasn't reported any baptuisms recently but she has expressed concern about two families that she knows leaving.

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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It seems that no-one is reporting baptisms here any more, and this thread is well out of date. They certainly are happening. More than you think. I know. I was there. Not just at Box Hill. Healings are happening too...
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Good morning, Guest.

It might pay to review the latest census data when it becomes available. I've been an interested observer of such material for the past 20-odd years, and the simple fact is the RCI has been in serious decline since at least the "Great Schism of '95"; more people are exiting the door than are entering by way of it.

For what it's worth the Australian branches of the Jehovah's Witnesses baptise more people each year than does the RCI worldwide, and the Sydney Anglican Diocese experiences considerably more healings. Most tellingly of all from my perspective is that noone is being saved because of the RCI. Those who become Christian whilst in the fellowship, do so despite the misguided efforts of the organisation itself.

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Good morning, Guest.

It might pay to review the latest census data when it becomes available. I've been an interested observer of such material for the past 20-odd years, and the simple fact is the RCI has been in serious decline since at least the "Great Schism of '95"; more people are exiting the door than are entering by way of it.

For what it's worth the Australian branches of the Jehovah's Witnesses baptise more people each year than does the RCI worldwide, and the Sydney Anglican Diocese experiences considerably more healings. Most tellingly of all from my perspective is that noone is being saved because of the RCI. Those who become Christian whilst in the fellowship, do so despite the misguided efforts of the organisation itself.

Blessings,

Ian 
hi ian i have been in two of revivals i am not in any more just wanted to ask you does a person have to be baptised to be saved would be greatful for your reply thanks

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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Hi, Guest.

hi ian i have been in two of revivals i am not in any more just wanted to ask you does a person have to be baptised to be saved would be greatful for your reply thanks. The short answer is, 'no', baptism is not necessary in order to be saved. Baptism is one aspect of Christian discipleship; in other words, it follows salvation rather than salvation following it :)

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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Once more the wolf speaks from his backside and not according to the Word of God.
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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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Good morning, Guest.

Once more the wolf speaks from his backside and not according to the Word of God. How very cryptic. As it is I addressed this very matter in another thread, replete with biblical references, and so saw no need to revisit the detail afresh here. But, given that you believe me to be wrong, why don't you have a crack at demonstrating where, why, and how?

You might like to use the following as your point of departure http://forum1.aimoo.com/revival/Please-Consider-An-examination-of-Revivalist-teachings-and-doctrines/Baptism-in-Water-Ian-Thomason-1-1020829.html

I will probably enjoy this conversation, that is if you have the 'agates' to engage ;)

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Re:Box Hill Baptism Register 2010

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Comming from Doctor Darcy's assembly, and I pass that way every now and then these day, I can say that it is going down the hill with attendance, every time i pay a visit, there is less seating, very few new faces, plenty of the old salt worths from 25 years ago still hanging on, some well grounded oldies who children have all gone the way out, Pastor Backy son & daughter gone a long time ago, 1 failed marriage 1 boom boom before marriage, last visit July2011 this visit 12 seats removed, now only 168 seats in total.

I'll get back for my winter visit and see if any more seats gone, Doctor  Darcy was away up PNG.
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 Simon is alleged to have said last Sunday that there have been five baptisms in the last five weeks.
Five more deluded souls.
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