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Am enjoying being challenged by John Beveres book 'Under Cover'.Iv'e never read any of Beveres work before has anybody got a comment on his credability as an Author? Iv'e seen 'Bait of Satan' b ut never picked it up.The book which speaks a lot about Gods authority and respect of the appointed authorities ie governments etc.........A good balance to the likes of 'Rethinking the Wineskin' Frank Viola.Love any comments.
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Am enjoying being challenged by John Beveres book 'Under Cover'.Iv'e never read any of Beveres work before has anybody got a comment on his credability as an Author? Iv'e seen 'Bait of Satan' b ut never picked it up.The book which speaks a lot about Gods authority and respect of the appointed authorities ie governments etc.........A good balance to the likes of 'Rethinking the Wineskin' Frank Viola.Love any comments.

JOhn Bevere, is not only an awsome author but an awsome preacher as well, have had the pleasure many times of hearing him preach.

I found bait of Satan especially good as it deals with taking offence.

As usuall you will finnd otheres on here who wont like him

 

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Am enjoying being challenged by John Beveres book 'Under Cover'.Iv'e never read any of Beveres work before has anybody got a comment on his credability as an Author? Iv'e seen 'Bait of Satan' b ut never picked it up.The book which speaks a lot about Gods authority and respect of the appointed authorities ie governments etc.........A good balance to the likes of 'Rethinking the Wineskin' Frank Viola.Love any comments.

Hi Frankie boy

Yes I've read Undercover as well as Bait of Satan, Drawing Near,  Driven by Eternity and Hearts Ablaze all by John Bevere. Also his wife Lisa has written a book titled Fight Like a Girl which I've bought but haven't started yet. We also have a stack of DVD's including the set of 4 Drawing Near DVD's.  If you have Foxtel they have (in SA) a program on Wed nights at 9.30pm where for the last 6 weeks Lisa has preached about relationships and marriage which has been awesome.  Everything they preach on is backed up by scripture and they are both qualified to teach. They always pray at the start for the Holy Spirit to annoint their preaching which He does.

 I would thoroughly recommend his books to anyone and have found them enlightening, uplifting and often very challenging to those who thought they 'knew' God in RF/RC & similar groups. I knew absolutely nothing at all compared to what I am learning and God is revealing to me now!!  My husband who was never a particularly avid reader before, now reads continually (lots of spare time between appointments) and is loving it and where God is leading him. I would encourage you to read as much as you can Frank as it does help you to think 'outside the RF box'.

God bless, urch

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All,

A brief word of caution: it would pay to be particularly discerning when it comes to the Bevere's published works. John Bevere was formerly part of Benny Hinn's entourage, with his teachings occasionally straying towards that 'weird' end of the theological spectrum (especially with respect to the 'name-it-and-claim-it' aspects of the so-called 'Word-Faith' movement, coupled with an over-emphasis on 'authority' and the value of 'tongues'). Of course, being discerning should be part-and-parcel of one's approach to reading all Christian writing: 'popular' and 'academic' alike

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Reply to : franks ghostAm enjoying being challenged by John Beveres book 'Under Cover'.Iv'e never read any of Beveres work before has anybody got a comment on his credability as an Author? Iv'e seen 'Bait of Satan' b ut never picked it up.The book which speaks a lot about Gods authority and respect of the appointed authorities ie governments etc.........A good balance to the likes of 'Rethinking the Wineskin' Frank Viola.Love any comments.Hi Frankie boyYes I've read Undercover as well as Bait of Satan, Drawing Near, Driven by Eternity and Hearts Ablaze all by John Bevere. Also his wife Lisa has written a book titled Fight Like a Girl whichI've bought but haven't started yet. We also have a stack of DVD's including the set of 4Drawing Near DVD

Thanks Urch I've been an avid reader for many years. Have never read any Bevere before.

Am enjoying Tozer, Spurgeon, Chambers of some of the oldies. recently it's been Boyd, Bevere, Viola. I tried Goglio but his video was better than his book, I gave it away.

I dont recall who wrote Repenting of Religion, but it was a beauty.

Any other worthwhile authors? 

 

 

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A brief word of caution: it would pay to be particularly discerning when it comes to the Bevere's published works. John Bevere was formerly part of Benny Hinn's entourage, with his teachings occasionally straying towards that 'weird' end of the theological spectrum (especially with respect to the 'name-it-and-claim-it' aspects of the so-called 'Word-Faith' movement, coupled with an over-emphasis on 'authority' and the value of 'tongues'). Of course, being discerning should be part-and-parcel of one's approach to reading all Christian writing: 'popular' and 'academic' alike

Appreciate your comments, know nothing of him (will look further). A comment in the other Geelong section today 26th Sept 07 by you stated the over emphasis by Bevere in the idea of pastoral covering. I'm up to page 155 of Under Cover and the emphasis I continue to get is toward God as the covering , however to pray for all authority. From fathers through to to Kings and Governments and everything in between. A lot of scripture to back up the argument is always a plus. (which he gives). As far as the tongue thing, thats also new to me.

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Reply to : DidaktikonA brief word of caution: it would pay to be particularlydiscerningwhen it comes to the Bevere's published works. John Bevere was formerly part of Benny Hinn's entourage, with his teachings occasionally straying towards that 'weird' end of the theological spectrum (especially with respect to the 'name-it-and-claim-it' aspects of the so-called 'Word-Faith' movement, coupled with an over-emphasis on 'authority' and the value of 'tongues'). Of course, being discerning should be part-and-parcel of one's approach to reading all Christian writing: 'popular' and 'academic' alikeAppreciate your comments, know nothing of him (will look furthe
As opposed to Didi, I can totally  recomend John Bevere, his wife Lisa has also written some great books
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Reply to : franks ghostReply to : DidaktikonA brief word of caution: it would pay to be particularlydiscerningwhen it comes to the Bevere's published works. John Bevere was formerly part of Benny Hinn's entourage, with his teachings occasionally straying towards that 'weird' end of the theological spectrum (especially with respect to the 'name-it-and-claim-it' aspects of the so-called 'Word-Faith' movement, coupled with an over-emphasis on 'authority' and the value of 'tongues'). Of course, being discerning should be part-and-parcel of one's approach to reading all Christian writing: 'popular' and 'academic' alikeAppreciate your comments, know nothing of him (will look furtheAs opposed to Didi, I can totally recomend John Bevere, his wife Lisa has also written some gr

I bought Lisa Bevere for my 21 year old daughter.

Bait of Satan For the boyfriend

A Heart Ablaze for my 23 Year Old daughter

Yes I'm encouraging everyone around me to read.

I bought another copy of Under Cover for a pastor friend at the Goldy, I rang him yesterday I was so touched by the words and teaching.

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Reply to : earth5Reply to : franks ghostReply to : DidaktikonA brief word of caution: it would pay to be particularlydiscerningwhen it comes to the Bevere's published works. John Bevere was formerly part of Benny Hinn's entourage, with his teachings occasionally straying towards that 'weird' end of the theological spectrum (especially with respect to the 'name-it-and-claim-it' aspects of the so-called 'Word-Faith' movement, coupled with an over-emphasis on 'authority' and the value of 'tongues'). Of course, being discerning should be part-and-parcel of one's approach to reading all Christian writing: 'popular' and 'academic' alikeAppreciate your comments, know nothing of him (will look furtheAs opposed to Didi, I can totally recomend John Bevere, his wife Lisa has also written some gr

Good on ya bro, bought bait of satan for a lady down here who is the process of looking around/poss leaving, I know it will do her an amazing amount of good to read this book.

Keep up the fight fg,

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E5,

As opposed to Didi, I can totally recomend John Bevere, his wife Lisa has also written some great books

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha (...ha, ha, ha, ha)

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Reply to : earth5E5,As opposed to Didi, I can totally recomend John Bevere, his wife Lisa has also written some great booksHa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha (...ha, ha, ha, ha)Blessings,Ian

And lots of christian love to you to brother.

I have read a lot of John Bevere and have found it informative, thought prevoking challanging and HAS helped me in my christian walk with God.

Im sorry that you find this so amusing but sadly not surprised.

 

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E5,

I have read a lot of John Bevere and have found it informative, thought prevoking challanging and HAS helped me in my christian walk with God.

Yes, no doubt

Im sorry that you find this so amusing but sadly not surprised.

Me neither. Spiritual discernment isn't really your strong suit

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Reply to : earth5E5,I have read a lot of John Bevere and have found it informative, thought prevoking challanging and HAS helped me in my christian walk with God.Yes, no doubtIm sorry that you find this so amusing but sadly not surprised.Me neither. Spiritual discernmentisn'treally your strong suitBlessings,Ian
and grace and humility isnt yours
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E5,

and grace and humility isnt yours

*snicker* To quote Jack Nicholson when playing USMC COL Jessup in 'A Few Good Men':"The truth?! You want the truth?! You can't HANDLE the truth!"

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Reply to : earth5E5,and grace and humility isnt yours*snicker* To quote Jack Nicholson when playing USMC COL Jessup in 'A Few Good Men':"The truth?! You want thetruth?! You can't HANDLE the truth!"Blessings,Ian
Ain't that the truth
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Reply to : earth5E5,and grace and humility isnt yours*snicker* To quote Jack Nicholson when playing USMC COL Jessup in 'A Few Good Men':"The truth?! You want thetruth?! You can't HANDLE the truth!"Blessings,Ian

What is your issue ian, you state you opinions and I can state mine, however it seems that what ever i say even when asking a serious question from your vast amount of knowledge of scripture you do nothing more that flick me of with  a HUH?? of some derogortory comment

We have had our differences and yes theology is not my strength, however i thought that you may be a little more mature and show the way rather than to delve into schoolyard snide remarks.

Sea urchin has been a supportor of john Bevere and yet I see no comments to her post  like you do to mine.

Time to grow up Ian and be the teacher not the school yard bully

 

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E5,

What is your issue ian, you state you opinions and I can state mine, however it seems that what ever i say even when asking a serious question from your vast amount of knowledge of scripture you do nothing more that flick me of with a HUH?? of some derogortory comment

Well, a strong case might be made to suggest that you're really not entitled to holding many of your 'opinions', given that they're often absolute 'bunk' and nonsense (placing them in the same category as many Revivalist beliefs). I choose to respond to them accordingly. Now I will admit that I have previously labeled you 'ignorant' with respect to a variety of content and context specific biblico-theological subject matter, and as I recall, it caused you to have something of an extended 'hissy-fit'. But I've got to be brutally honest with you, 'Earth', you've not provided very much of late that challenges me to reconsider my original assumptions concerning you

We have had our differences and yes theology is not my strength, however i thought that you may be a little more mature and show the way rather than to delve into schoolyard snide remarks.

I can't really help myself, the truth be told You do say some pretty stupid things, from time-to-time And I do find reading and responding to your offerings enjoyable

Sea urchin has been a supportor of john Bevere and yet I see no comments to her post like you do to mine.

And?

Time to grow up Ian and be the teacher not the school yard bully

Not yet, although I would suggest that perhaps it's time for you to stop playing the 'goose' In closing, it's not just theology that isn't your strength, bro' Among other things, you present as being overly... how shall I put it?... 'precious'.

Blessings,

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Reply to : earth5E5,What is your issue ian, you state you opinions and I can state mine, however it seems that what ever i say even when asking a serious question from your vast amount of knowledge of scripture you do nothing more that flick me of with a HUH?? of some derogortory commentWell, a strong case might be made to suggest that you're really notentitledto holding many of your 'opinions', given that they're often absolute 'bunk' and nonsense (placing them in the same category as many Revivalist beliefs). I choose to respond to them accordingly. Now I will admit that Ihavepreviously labeled you 'ignorant' with respect to a variety of content and context specific biblico-theological subject matter, and as I recall, it caused you to have something of an extended 'hissy-fit'. But I've got to be brutally honest with you, 'Earth',
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E5,

yea thanks sott

You're welcome. Now try pouting a little less, and thinking a little more and let's see what happens

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Reply to : earth5E5,yea thanks sottYou're welcome. Now try pouting a little less, and thinking a little more and let's see what happensBlessings,Ian
But Ian I hear pouting lips are all the rage, I mean some people pay lots of money to have that look
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