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Hello my name is Tony Lucas, most would know me as bones.  So it seems this site, which i thought was an open forum for ex grc members to express views about their dealings with the grc and noel herbert hollins has been hijacked by a meglomaniac named ian, who never went to the grc, but seems to have all the answers for people who have been badly burned by hollins and his attack dogs. 

I spent 15yrs in that cesspool, the last 10yrs lying to myself about "what is the truth"

Ian, you will embrace all denominations, which is not what the bible says, "one church one faith" there is no two churches in the bible (not that i put any credance in that work of fiction anymore).

I have nothing to hide, my integrity is sound and life now is good. It cost me a lot to leave the grc but the conclusion i came to was, can i swallow the lie anymore or am i going to be true to myself, i chose the latter.

There is a saying "walk a mile in my shoes" well for someone who was never bound up in the grc to speak from any point of understanding what any ex grc member is going through is arrogant to say the least.

We were the "only true church on earth" not affiliated to any other group.

What's your background ian? Some theological college somewhere?

So i have my detractors, of that i have no doubt, the lies that have been spoken against me, and even told to my daughter about me as to why we divorced were very indicitive of how morally corrupt the grc and it's members have become, i am sure motmot i can attest to that and many others also.

Anyway enough for now, i have not experienced the seven times worse scenario that is suppose to happen to anyone that leaves hollins little group, my life is so much better now than it was in that place, even though it cost me a lot.

The anger i had is long gone and really all i feel is pity for those who (willingly) delude themselves to the will of another meglomaniac noel hollins who unlike me has an asio file on his organization has had today tonight, a current affair, knocking on his door (there not knocking on mine)

The sad fact is as long as there are vulnerable people there will be parasites like hollins who will pray on them, i guess this is the price we pay for democracy.

I am sure there is more to come.
Bones

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Re:A few words from bones.

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I agree 100% with bones regarding this Ian bloke.

I have for some time visited this site and while I have not felt the need to post I have found some of the content from ex grc members useful as I can often relate to it. Lately since Ian appears to have taken control I have found that all posts seem to somehow be turned into a soap box for Ian to parade his self professed 'intelligence', 'class' and 'character'.

I find that a self indulgent ramble is among the last things I want to hear, I would much rather hear from 'normal' people who have found a way to move on with their life having EXPERIENCED the brutality of the grc.

What Ian needs to understand is that his interpretation of the bible is no more valid than anyone else, yes he may have spent much more time studying it but I believe one doesn't need to be learned about these things to have a real experience with God and I am sure the Bible would validate this.

The lack of action on this site recently would indicate that people have voted with their feet and I can't blame them, most have already had enough of being talked down to by a self-righteous fool.  
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Re:A few words from bones.

Date Posted:08/12/2011 9:15 AMCopy HTML

Ian you have no idea... The grc is the "branch dividian" of australia or maybe even the Jonestown. who knows the future, i am sure you don't.  Just stop trying to understand what ex grc members are going through as you definately have no idea, and every ex member will see you as just some airless christian (which hollins would have called a false prophet anyway) We use to sing a song "your in your out, your in your out there is no inbetween, so no middle ground of embrassing everyone. Let me take something from "landmark forum" another cult in some ways, "there are things we know, there are things we know we dont know, and there are things we dont know, we dont know, the grc is something you may think you know but the reality is you just don't know. 

So tell the god that you know so well to call past and show me the error of my ways and i will happily bend the knee, which is what i said to hollins in one of our last conversations.  Alas so far......

You say you know me i don't think so prove me wrong.

And what is it with the picture of a moses lookalike with the tablets as your avatar?  Are you the new apostle?  I thought hollins thought he was. 

I am free of the grc and THAT you can never understand.

Bones
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Re:A few words from bones.

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Just one more thing about the government looking at hollins and the grc.  I have no doubt the government has a file on hollins and the grc, other people know this too, but again we live in a democracy. If you are really interested ian try freedom of information, as a democracy we have freedom to plunder also.

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Re:A few words from bones.

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i didnt even bother reading all your post ian, you are a tosser just full of your own self worth, how about you do all the ex grc members a favour and leave this grc link aloneand  go play with all the other "lukewarm" christians.  I will not be replying to anymore of your postings. but i will be relating my accounts of dealings with the grc and hollins. Now do me a favour and go away
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You need help ian go seek it and i i dont mean on your knees unless you are in front of your gay lover,....  I am in your space you say?  just watch your emails you may get a cold smartarse...
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You need to seriously look at your firewalls, and proxy servers, you underestimate who you are dealing with ian i have spend 20 yrs in this world and you call it yours just look for an email "happy to meet you" open it and we go from there or delete it and it wipes your harddrive maybe, you crossed a very bad line ian do you open it? or do you delete it?
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Re:A few words from bones.

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Reply to bones301260

You need to seriously look at your firewalls, and proxy servers, you underestimate who you are dealing with ian i have spend 20 yrs in this world and you call it yours just look for an email "happy to meet you" open it and we go from there or delete it and it wipes your harddrive maybe, you crossed a very bad line ian do you open it? or do you delete it? Bones

Wow Bones, that was a pretty stupid line to get me perked up and posting a reply. I'm glad I use a Mac to save me from these magic terrorist emails. If it weren't for Ian keeping this forum alive there wouldn't be any chat here at all.
You guys know that forums are a little more than passé these days. The hits this place gets is still a great thing for an 'old time' forum. The information available on this site is still tremendous and easily found in a google search, which I think it brilliant. The conversation has dried up, but then most social media has moved onto more 'social media' ala facebook nowadays. 

Ian was off the site for about a year and apart from the 'excitement' about the 'Australia's Got Talent' the place was a ghost town. You guys 'could' ignore Ian and have your conversations about Noel, but instead most of you seem happier to attack Ian for posting here. Case in point: You just started two separate threads on a GRC forum about Ian. I just read through other threads in the GRC room and Ian isn't as prolific and intrusive as you're promoting. Chill out dude. 
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Re:A few words from bones.

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I run into someone the other day.  They told me a story.  According to my sources it seems that the moderator of this grc site is someone called Ian and apparently he has been threatening people in here saying he knows everyones address and phone numbers who log on and post anything in here, my sources also say that the telecommunication ombudsman is very interested in this. Not sure what to make of it, but i think maybe Ian may need to be careful as i think aimoo may be looking at him also, and it does sound like cyber terrorism is not looked upon favourably by the government, again i can only speculate, so who is ian? and who is the moderator? Are they one in the same, threatening people who dare to hold a differing opinion i guess only time will tell. But my sources do say that people are looking at this.
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backsliderme,

 

I’m not defending Ian but when someone makes an outright threat to crash someone else’s computer for no reason other than payback for certain comments, I would be the first to report such to the authorities. I’m not a moderator but I happen to know the name and address of the person concerned. I think it a ‘storm in a teacup’; besides, most people that make those sorts of threats openly are full of wind anyway.

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Lets see what the authorities say about that. 

They that sow the wind, reap the whirlwind, or so i heard.
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I am not here to defend bones, but when Ian (who is the moderator of this site) his email address and that of uncoolman (who supposedly is the moderator) run through the same email server says things like i have your address and phone number,  I have concerns.  And it seems others do also. 
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               Ian may be many things but what he had to say in the Topic ...
                             " don't know if I should go back"  
to the one who posted it , "bratche",  was an all time low. It was just appalling and reveals that Ian is a nasty minded little bully. Whether one agrees with "bratche" or not is irrelevant, bratche was asking for help and was brutally, verbally savaged and insulted by Ian. There is no excuse for such behaviour. 
              "bratche" even politely asked him not to be so 'unkind'  but it didn't stop him. Ian may well be an educated man and might have achieved much but he certainly has no personal etiquette or human skills to deal with people. 
"bratche" has told me of the outcome. 
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I stand in the breach.............

After reading all this i have come to the conclusion, i agree with bones even though i did not know him in the grc, you do have to have been in the grc to understand it, no outsider can begin to fathom what a place it was, and for people with no "first hand experience" of the grc they are just guessing.  Ian you seem quite knowedgable of things biblical, the grc is anything but biblical.  So try to show some christian compassion, you come across as hollins did "there is no authority but mine" Did you ever go to the grc?
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Should i salute you Ian?  The stripes on your shoulders dont equate to IQ  whatever your rank.  Do the country a favour and go to iraq, but i guess you are not one to stand up, but hide behind things. 
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Oh my goodness! put a sock in it. You really don't have a clue?
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 ... well I would be happy to give Ian the salute of respect .. given the scholastic miles down the dusty tomes he has had to trudge.

Happy Christmas Ian to you and yours and I trust and pray 2012 is your best successful year ever .. happy new year dude.

talk again next year after the break in a couple of weeks

Blessings

Eric

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Hi Bones, 
I agree with you, personally I don't even bother reading any of the dribble that Ian writes anymore, a total waste of time ... 
anyway Tony I remember you, glad to hear you're out of that joint.

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I've just come back from holidays to discover many threats and nasty comments sent to me from Bones via private messaging. 

Bad show old boy.

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My virus protection wouldnt allow me to open this site before, has brainless bones been up to something. Some people are a waste of space on this planet, and some of them go to great lengths to prove it.
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