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Date Posted：25/07/2006 8:36 AMCopy HTML Well I finally decided to visit and have a look around.
I guess this is the right place to share a bit about myself, so I suppose I'd better give my testimony! I have an awful lot to praise the Lord for. I was pretty much raised a Revivalist, my family coming to the RCI when I was a wee little fella. We got to see a couple of different assemblies over the years and all was going good. Then came 1995 and the split! My folks decided to "stay RCI" but I decided I just couldn't agree with what Lloyd was trying to force on the assemblies so I starting barracking for the other team (TRF). Around 2001 I decided to get closer to God so I started to study my Bible more and praying more. The more I studied and prayed the more I felt something just wasn't right with what I believed. It was about then that I first heard about a website from a sister in the Lord. It was called Please Consider. I looked it up and downloaded all the articles there. I spent the next 8 months reading them and checking Drew Dixon and Ian Thomason's opinions against the Bible. It was a hard time for me because I found out that most of what I'd honestly believed didn't seem to have much substance behind it when checked against God's word. For the next year or so I asked heaps of questions to people I respected in the RF (pastors, houseleaders, friends). The answers I got didn't satisfy me as all they did was parrot the official doctrine. Nobody that I asked seemed to be able to shoot down Dixon and Thomason's arguments so I eventually worked up the courage to email Ian Thomason directly. Ian put me in touch with a couple of ex-RCI and RF people that he knew in my area and I started to meet with them from time to time to discuss my concerns. They certainly didn't fit the image I'd been told about those who had "fallen away". These people really loved Jesus! They had something I really didn't have and it had nothing to do with speaking in tongues. They had a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and they knew who they were and where they were headed! Anyway I continued to meet with these guys and email Ian to talk through some doctrine problems I had. In 2004 I eventually left the RF. It was probably the hardest thing I'd ever done because my whole life was tied up in the church. But I now had friends I could count on and they made it very clear to me that I wasn't on my own. I now fellowship at a fairly upbeat Anglican church and it's great! After a little prodding I even started studying theology late last year (surprise surprise Ian Thomason is one of my tutors). I'm healthier (emotionally and spiritually), happier (ditto) and hungrier for God than I ever was in the RCI or TRF. I guess I'd just like any TRF folk who are really thinking about stuff to understand that life doesn't stop if you decided to stay with God but leave the RF. Not all the horror stories you hear are true. Mosh |
MothandRust
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：25/07/2006 3:17 PMCopy HTML Hi Mosh I can relate to your story, thanks for sharing it. I don't know what I'd have done without the please consider this site to help me unwind all the crap I'd been fed for 16 years. It's sort of like giving the computer a good anti-virus scan and defrag. I joined up with a more upbeat church as well and enjoyed a more relaxed approach to God and stuff. I've since decided to leave the church going lifestyle and am quite happy mingling with the wider world, but each to their own. Nice to hear you've found yourself a niche to be happy in. Amazing that God exists outside of the boxes we create for him eh? It's hilarious and sad that RCI put down the RFers so much. Classic jealous brother syndrom, yet they're both outta wack. But, as I said, we all live in the little realities of our own creation. Instagram and Twitter: @mothpete
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：27/07/2006 11:56 AMCopy HTML Reply to : HolyandSinful
That's bullshit!!! Please Consider is a second rate site at best and exists only to feed the ego of one monumental fuckwit! Enough of the Ian worship already. It's getting tiring. |
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：27/07/2006 12:32 PMCopy HTML Reply to : Anonymous That was totally out of line. Just because you don't like pleaseconsider or Ian doesn't mean that everyone else thinks like you. Some people who come here have been helped by him and his site so who are you to judge L |
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：27/07/2006 2:14 PMCopy HTML
Second rate site compared to what? As far as I know there's only two sites dedicated to poo-pooing the Revival monster. Second rate compared to Rc.cultweb.net - but of course I don't know Ian and have never spoken to him but however big his ego may be (and I think that's a general male thing), he still had some good arguments that have the elitest Revival worshippers scratching their heads. Anyone who spends some time exposing them publicly gets some kudos from me. It was the pleaseconsider site I found and I remembered people from this site recommend me checking it our for some particular scriptural hang-ups I had a couple of years ago. Hardly Ian worship... and even if his ego is self-gratifying, it has served a purpose. And that is to highlight in bright yellow that the Revival doctrine is shoddy and damaging. Instagram and Twitter: @mothpete
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：27/07/2006 2:51 PMCopy HTML
Really enjoyed your post pit, could almost relate to every word you were saying. Ian's thoughts are fantastic! full of truth that really expose the lies of false doctrines. Cheers RB.
A man died and went to heaven. He was met by Jesus and Jesus began to show him around. As they walked they saw some amazing things. Some too beautiful and amazing to describe. Eventually they came to a huge wall and the man heard the sound of music, laughing and what basically sounded like a party coming from behind the wall. Curious, the man asked Jesus what was going on behind the wall.
Jesus answered, "Shhhh!!! Not too loud. That"s the GRC. They think they"re the only ones here!!!"
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：29/07/2006 10:14 AMCopy HTML $%*'`[L]%*'`@Reply to : HolyandSinful
Hi H&S It sounds like Mr Stinkypants has his knickers in a knot for some reason! L |
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：29/07/2006 3:46 PMCopy HTML
If by Mr Stinkypants, you mean me...nuh uh. I didn't post that tirade against Ian. Believe it or not, I often refer people to the PC website. It is anything BUT second rate. There are also links to some of the better articles on the Cultweb site. So Mr Stinkypants' nickers are most untwisted. I think you need to get over me and move on. I told you, I don't love you anymore and think we need to see other people. |
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：30/07/2006 8:49 AMCopy HTML $%*'`[L]%*'`@
Wow! Do you mean there's someone else who acts and sounds just like you posting here? L |
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：30/07/2006 9:10 AMCopy HTML |
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：30/07/2006 10:18 AMCopy HTML
Look what you're doing to Pittmosh's thread! Tsk tsk. C'mon some respect.. go wee in your own pool. Is there anyone who isn't a troll on this board? heh heh. Sorry Moshy... It's good to see you could see through the crap Lloyd was pedalling and that you discovered life outside Revival. That place is sort of like a TARDIS. It's always the same inside, but outside there are so many different and exciting worlds ripe to explore. Ha, and the doctor is not really a doctor, like the pastors aren't really pastors... just dudes who can read their pamphlets and ramble on about them for 40 minutes at a time. Instagram and Twitter: @mothpete
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：31/08/2006 11:38 AMCopy HTML Reply to : Pittmosh
Hey, Pete/Pitt/Mosh. Nice post, brother, but remember: 'hosing' to me won't improve your grades. For that you'll need to hit the books harder! God bless, Ian |
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：31/08/2006 1:44 PMCopy HTML That reminds me, I have an assignment to write... |
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：31/08/2006 5:33 PMCopy HTML Pittmosh, I found your 'testimony' very encouraging I have been considering contacting Ian myself. I too have been shocked that not everyone who leaves the OH So Blessed institution of RCI returns to their former heathen Glory and grows horns, spits blood and their heads spin( Although I gather from all I read from MothandRust he may be aiming to take his former heathen glory to a whole new level of perfection- Im giggling as I write that tongue in cheek so please dont take that as offence M&R, it's meant very fondly in that you are your own decision maker)(although your head does spin!) sorry Im easily distracted .... and amused..... back to Pittmosh.......I think some face to face time with people who have been through the same emotional melt down is a valid suggestion. It would be time well spent and Im aproaching the strength within my self to be able to deal with some revelations that Ive been putting off facing. I know I need to look at the whole salvation thingy and pull it apart and question what's truth and whats a perversion of the truth and what's out right lies. I think I will need a good supply of pain killers cause it's going to be a massive head spin for me!
It's great to be reminded that there is life after leaving and that you can take control of the direction YOU want to go in. As I hear it, I'll repeat it,
Its up to you if you believe it!
Allegation big and small,
soon revealed before us all.
outa here- Outa Egypt!
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：31/08/2006 9:25 PMCopy HTML
I like to change avatars, but that spinning head does suit me! I'm easily distracted too... not a good habit when driving past the beaches around here. During my time in the RF I collectively drank 16 litres of grapejuice. See, I do get distracted easily! Good to see I got something for the tithes I gave there. Friday night and I'm doing math calculations.... I need more heathen glory by the sounds of it. Instagram and Twitter: @mothpete
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：07/09/2006 7:06 PMCopy HTML $%*'`[cunticumber]%*'`@
YOU ALL NEED TO GET OUT AND GET A LIFE, I GUESS RELIGION HAS A LOT TO ANSWER FOR. |
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：07/09/2006 7:59 PMCopy HTML
Instagram and Twitter: @mothpete
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Re：what I'd believed didn't have much substance Date Posted：08/09/2006 10:29 PMCopy HTML Reply to : c**ticumber [Anonymous]
you don't have to be embasrassed to be using this forum c**ticumber! it's ok, really! plus... DID YOU KNOW... when people are not using this forum, they might actually have an additional life between posts, outside of this forum?! it REALLY IS possible! just like it is possible to use various personas with various people in various contexts! if it gives you joy, enjoy! life aint pretty without it
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. No one is arguing that. Certainly not a competition anyway.
