well, like his dad, when there was some resistance, the guy became really unchristian and personal. he would have been talking about flayva in particular, as if 'i'm not YOUR shephard (anymore)'. i think.

i was a bit uncomfortable about the shephard thing as it was blatantly calling the congregation sheep. it also gave the oversight more power over them.

the conversation i had with my house leader, in which i told him i would be going to the 'b-team' to be with my mum (in their house meetings at our house it was metioned that family was more important than church)was the most eye-opening i ever had.

this guy was was pretty cool for someone brought up in the church and was close to simon, but seemed to be loosing his coolness as he climbed the church's power-ladder, as they all do.

anyway, he tried to explain to me that the people are like sheep and that the different churches represent different paddocks. he said that the higher you build the fences around them, the safer the people felt and this included stricter rules.

this made a deep impression on me and gave me some insight into how the leaders of the church saw the church in comparison to the congregation. as did the way the oversight were told to carry a 'poker face' when in the presence of the people. it wasn't the 'common union' that jeshua ben yousef (jesus) had tried to establish.

it was clear that the humble people of the church were being molly-coddled away from a higher truth - how the church looked to everyone except those deeply in it at the 'general admission' level - the sheep.

i must say, though, that i feel sorry for extreme members and leaders alike, as they are brainwashed themselves, by themselves. this seems to be the nature of belief. i did it to myself while i was there. sometimes i feel like they are not completely evil and this might even be the only way they can help innocent people who can't accept the real 'corrupt' world. i must admit, it's been a long road for me, from a lamb to what i am, and being able to comprehend all the crazy stuff that does go on.

on the other hand, maybe it would have been easier to accept if we weren't so severly sheltered from it. maybe it's true that we all have a devil inside. all the crap in the world is carried out by members of our own species.

on that note, i welcome you flayva. i am a new member myself and i must say be careful of your identity or the use of names from the revival places as i hear they know some big wigs and masons and satan himself, who can probably track you by your IP address under the patriot act.

the 'revivolution with not be forumised' unless our master (revenge) plan is discovered prematurely.

disclaimer: there is no conspiracy going on to destroy the revival churches

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on that note, i welcome you flayva. i am a new member myself and i must say be careful of your identity or the use of names from the revival places as i hear they know some big wigs and masons and satan himself, who can probably track you by your IP address under the patriot act.

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