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Didaktikon | |
Date Posted:03/04/2014 2:21 AMCopy HTML Good afternoon all. So what does the data present? In the 2001 census 3,856 people across Australia identified themselves as members of the Revival Centres International. However, in 2011 the figure had dropped to 2,226 - a decline of 1,630 adherents. To put this another way, the RCI lost almost half its 2001 number over the following decade! The RCI has been trending significant negative growth since the census of 1991, averaging a decline of approximately 38% each succeeding decade. The heyday of the 1980s are well and truly past; the future, such as it is, is decidely grim for this branch of Australian Lonfieldianism. Soli deo gloria. Ian email: didaktikon@gmail.com
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spitchips | Share to: #1 |
Re:The continuing demise of the Revival Centres in Australia Date Posted:08/04/2014 9:48 AMCopy HTML Hello Ian I have not been on this site for such a long time. But it is with much happiness that I read this post of yours. Perhaps the decline will continue steadily until there is a lone preacher of false doctrines preaching to an empty hall. cheers and God's blessings Chips |
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D-T-M | Share to: #2 |
Re:The continuing demise of the Revival Centres in Australia Date Posted:13/04/2014 5:20 AMCopy HTML I hope you are correct in your assumptions Ian, but when I accompany Mrs Mole to the Box Hill gathering three or four times a year there is still a reasonable turnout, although they never open the mezzanine any more.
Maybe some were not 100% honest when filling out their census forms and put down "none" "Jedi Knight" etc. Mole. |
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Didaktikon | Share to: #3 |
Re:The continuing demise of the Revival Centres in Australia Date Posted:13/04/2014 12:33 PMCopy HTML Hi, Mole.
I'd suggest they're more than simply assumptions, but statistical realities. And to be honest I just can't see any RCI adherent recording anything but 'Revival Centres' in the religious affiliation section of their census form, nevermind sixteen hundred-odd identifying themselves as 'Jedi knights' ;) Blessings, Ian email: didaktikon@gmail.com
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D-T-M | Share to: #4 |
Re:The continuing demise of the Revival Centres in Australia Date Posted:17/04/2014 4:53 AMCopy HTML Meanwhile Mrs Mole advised after last Sunday's service that Pr Simon had just returned from a junket in PNG and claimed to have over 8,000 bums on seats in PNG.
Is Simon exagerating slightly? Mole |
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Didaktikon | Share to: #5 |
Re:The continuing demise of the Revival Centres in Australia Date Posted:17/04/2014 7:24 AMCopy HTML Hi, Mole. email: didaktikon@gmail.com
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Biblianut | Share to: #6 |
Re:The continuing demise of the Revival Centres in Australia Date Posted:18/04/2014 1:22 AMCopy HTML Ian,
"There are several things to consider in reviewing this matter. First and foremost, PNG has a well ingrained culture of witchcraft and magic. Toss in the standard Revivalist nonsense about 'signs-and-wonders' and you're sure to gather a crowd." Interesting, I remember Noel Hollins preach on that very thing years ago, difference is he was accusing the Roman Catholic Church of having the rituals as part of the Christian ministry. What a hypocrite. Ralph. I believe in Christianity as I believe the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C.S.Lewis.
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D-T-M | Share to: #7 |
Re:The continuing demise of the Revival Centres in Australia Date Posted:28/04/2014 12:25 AMCopy HTML Mrs Mole advised this week that Simon had returned from Fiji where there are three Assemblies and "hundreds" of members.
Mole |
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Didaktikon | Share to: #8 |
Re:The continuing demise of the Revival Centres in Australia Date Posted:28/06/2017 11:34 AMCopy HTML Good evening, all. email: didaktikon@gmail.com
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Didaktikon | Share to: #9 |
Re:The continuing demise of the Revival Centres in Australia Date Posted:19/09/2021 6:21 AMCopy HTML Hello, All. I'll be updating the ABS information on the ongoing national demise of the Revival Centres shortly, but for now I thought I'd submit a localised teaser: in the 2016 census, only 322 people in the entire state of Victoria identified with the Revival Centres, which represents a drop of 144 followers from the 2011 figures (when they registered 466 members). This is a decline of almost 31% in five years! To put this into perspective, according to the ABS the average size of a church congregation in Australia is a little over 100 members. The Revival Centres publicly lists 11 assemblies in Victoria; 322 divided by 11 doesn't make for much in the way of "tithes and offerings". Perhaps this is why Simon Longfield reported just the one paid staff position in the Melbourne Central assembly in his annual return to the Australian Charities and Not-for-profits Commission this year? Long story, short: if this trend of massive decline continues, there'll be no Revival Centres people "...meeting the Lord in the Air." Whether many would in any case ... is certainly open to challenge ;) Blessings, Ian email: didaktikon@gmail.com
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Didaktikon | Share to: #10 |
Re:The continuing demise of the Revival Centres in Australia Date Posted:23/09/2021 5:53 AMCopy HTML Good afternoon, All. Membership within the Revival Centres continued to significantly decline in the five years between the 2011 and 2016 censuses. In 2011 2,226 Australians identified as members of this sect. By 2016, this had reduced to 1,491 adherents, which represents a decline of approximately 33% over five years. The Revival Centres website lists 31 assemblies in Australia. A survey of ACNC data indicates the majority of these are numerically underwhelming; every assembly self-reported as being a 'small' charity, i.e. having a total annual revenue of less than $250,000 p.a. An approximation of the upper limit for such an assembly can be calculated by considering income from tithes based on the average Australian wage, and then halving the final figure. This would allow for somewhere between 40 and 50 people for an assembly enjoying the ACNC's maximum permissible annual revenue needed to retain the 'small' charity status. Another way of aggregating the data is to divide the total number of people self-identifying with the Revival Centres in the 2016 census, by the total number of publicly listed assemblies. The net result is an average of 48 adults per assembly. Given metropolitan groups would likely have slightly larger attendances than would regional and rural groups, I believe it reasonable to assume the majority of Australian assemblies would likely have somewhere between 15 and 25 adults in regular attendance. In closing, based on self-reporting by individual members (i.e. ABS data) and pastors (i.e. ACNC data), the Revival Centres membership base in Australia is numerically so small as to be inconsequential. The impact of this branch of the Longfield heresy on local Australian communities is similarly inconsequential. Unfortunately, the same can't be said of the disproportionate impact the Revival Centers has had, and continues to have, in the lives of many past and current members! The most recent (i.e. 2021) ABS census data won't become available for a few years yet. However, I'm confident we'll find then that the significant trend downwards continues. This heretical sect is dying, thanks be to God. Blessings, Ian didaktikon@gmail.com |
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Didaktikon | Share to: #11 |
Re:The continuing demise of the Revival Centres in Australia Date Posted:11/07/2022 11:15 AMCopy HTML UPDATE: I inadvertently misrepresented the 2016 RCI membership census numbers in my post, above. There I reported 1,491 adherents when the true figure was approximately half that number at 721 members. Incidentally, the RF fared little better, with a reported membership of just 768 members Australia-wide. Spiritually impotent and numerically insignificant; a pox on both their houses! Blessings, Ian email: didaktikon@gmail.com
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Didaktikon | Share to: #12 |
Re:The continuing demise of the Revival Centres in Australia Date Posted:07/07/2024 6:17 AMCopy HTML Greetings, Gentlefolk. The 2021 Census results have been published, and the findings are very interesting. At the 2016 census a total of 721 people identified as members of the 'RCI' (I understand they call themselves the Revival Centres Church nowadays, but I don't want anyone inadvertently confusing them for the Roman Catholic Church, or 'RCC'). Surprisingly the most recent figure is 735, which represents a growth of 14 people (or 1.90%) across their 30-odd assemblies over the past five years. Notably, the Revival Fellowship fared considerably better. In 2021 768 people identified as members of the 'RF', but that number has grown to 1,114 by 2021! This is a significant increase, being an additional 346 people* (or 45.05%) over the same period. Alarmingly, this heretical sect now constitutes approximately 0.00412% of the total Australian population. Putting this into perspective, there are as many adherents of Revival Fellowship teaching in Australia as there are followers of the Shinto belief system. But growth, never mind by a figure of almost half as much again, is alarming. An eventual review of the 2026 census data should prove illuminating ... Blessings, Ian T. * The RF no longer provides a public list of their assemblies on their official website. email: didaktikon@gmail.com
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