The word of God states that if a couple cannot contain then they are to marry. 1Cor 7 v 9. God gave the parents and in particular the father of the bride authority in the situation. But in many cases the father has not taken up his God given authority in the situation and the Christian Church has done little help and guide "fatherless" young people into marriage.

The Church and parents in some circumstances wipe their hands with young people who have found a partner, particularly if they are teenagers. Paul prophesied this about the last days; 1 Tim 4 v 1-6. This is not about a change in food laws as some people interpret but Paul was speaking to Timothy about the young people and marriage.

It is our responsibility that Christians have an easy path to marriage but that is not always the case. Paul warned us of this in the latter days in Timothy 4 v 1-5 of this problem. We read; Now the Spirit speak expressly, (take note of these words) that in the latter times (the last days) some shall depart from the faith (their trust in God) paying heed (paying attention) to seducing spirits (some of the things a seducing spirit would say- "your too young to get married", "marriage will spoil your life", "if you marry your partner it will end in divorce", "you have nothing in common with your partner", "kids will ruin your life", "you need to have an education before you get married", "enjoy life before you get married", "you will never have any money" etc) and doctrine of devils (miss leading teaching) Speaking lies (falsely/not from Gods word) in hypocrisy (acting/guilty of the same conduct) having their conscience seared with a hot iron. (Not able to distinguish what is lawful and unlawful for a Christian) Forbidding (denying/refusing/hindering) to marry, and commanding (coming from a higher office) to abstain (kept from) from meats (Gods instructions/promises) which God has created to be received (Gods blessings to us) with thanksgiving (our praise to God) of them which believe (rely) and know (recognise/know accurately) the truth (nature of God). For every creature (new born soul) of God is good. (beautiful, handsome, excellent, surpassing, precious, useful, suitable, commendable, admiral, shapely and magnificent) and nothing to be refused (neglected, despised) if it be sanctified (made holy, purified, guided by) by the word of God and prayer. (Communion/relationship/friendship with God).

The Jewish culture has a better understanding about fulfilling a marriage than do many Christians allowing their children to marry if necessary once they have completed their Bar Mitzvah or Bit Mitzvah. Boys at 13 y.o. and Girls 12 y.o.

King Josiah was married and had two children by the time fifteen years old. Historical records would also show that Mary was pregnant with Christ in her teenage years maybe in her early to mid teenage years.

Regarding customs or laws of the land, if they contradict the Word of God then we obey the Word of God and not man's law. The Jew's followed God's law on marriage and do not put obstacles in the way of their children getting married if they cannot contain them selves nor does God discriminate on a person's age when it comes to marriage. "Render unto God what is God's render unto Caesar what is Caesar's". Marriage was created by God not Caesar. Your concordance will show you that fornication represents unlawful sex. You need to look in your Bible to find what God deems unlawful sex. Lev 26 would be a good start.

If a young couple cannot contain them selves sexually God simply tells them to marry Ex 22 v 16. There is no condemnation and God never called it fornication.

In some KJV scriptures the word "fornication" is used along side words such as adultery and idolatry such as in 1 Cor 6 v 9 & Gal 5 v 19-20, in which the translator has used the word "fornication" to cover the other sexual acts God has no tolerance for, such as prostitution, sex with no intention of marriage, homosexuality, laying with a beast, incest, and marriage to an unbeliever. In Jewish law some scriptures such as Matt 1 v 18-19 "fornication" meant that one of the couple had had a sexual relationship with a third party before a marriage which resulted in a cancellation of engagement and marriage. In other scriptures in the KJV the translator the translator has used the word "fornication" to represent one or a number of sex acts God has no tolerance for. For example Matt 5 v 32, "fornication" represents adultery. 1 Cor 5 v 1-2, "fornication" was representing incest and adultery. Acts 5 v 20, 1 Cor 12 v 21, Eph 5 v 3, Col 3 v 5, 1Thess 4, Jude 1 v 7, "fornication" represented all sexual acts God had no tolerance for. Rom 1 v 29 "fornication" represents homosexuality, 1 Cor 10 v 8, fornication represents sexual relationships with the unbeliever. Rev 2 v 14, 9 v 21, 14 v 8, 17 v 2-4, 18 v 1-9 19 v 2, "fornication" represented spiritual adultery, prostitution and/or idolatry which also manifested in the natural.

Other translations such as The Amplified Bible will use words such as impurity, immorality and indecency to cover all the sexual acts God has no tolerance for, rather than the words "adultery" or "fornication".

The English dictionary translation on "fornication" is "sex outside marriage" as you translate it but the translators of the bible have used an inappropriate English word and have corrected this in more modern translations of the bible and use words such as immorality.

The use of the word "fornication" in the bible has never been used to describe a couple who have had a sexual encounter between each other before their marriage ceremony or signing of a State marriage certificate. There was no such thing as a State marriage certificate as such when the scriptures were written. The first recording of a census was for taxes. (Luke 2 v 1-5)

One of the most miss interpreted scriptures on "fornication" would be (1 Cor 7 v 2) To avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, let every woman have her own husband. Paul was saying to find a life long partner (in the Lord) to avoid the temptation of a relationship God has no tolerance for, such as; man with man, woman with woman, man or woman with beast, prostitution, sex with no intention of marriage, relationship with an unbeliever and incest.

Shechem and Dinah's experience (Genesis 34) is parallel to what leaders in the Church are doing today, using false doctrine condemning young couples who may have had sex before their "legal" marriage. Using terms against them such as "fornicators" or "sex that is not sacred" is taken out of context with the scriptures. Jesus spoke against the Scribes and the Pharisees. They are alive today and still doing the same.

Simeon and Levi were God's chosen people who took God's word out of context using false doctrine to condemn Shechem and his family and tribe. Shechem did not rape Dinah but seduced her. (Ex 22 v 16)

Shechem loved Dinah and would do anything to marry her even to he extent of believing in Jacob's, Simeon's and Levi's God. Shechem, the male members of his family and tribe were circumcised to become as them. (This was no party trick at a buck's party.) Shechem and the other males knew the significance of circumcision, that this was the sign that that they would be worshiping the God of Jacob. All was in order to marry Dinah but instead Simeon and Levi used the situation using false doctrine to condemn Shechem, Hamor and his tribe.

Shechem and Hamor were known to be honourable men even after Shechem slept with Dinah. Simeon and Levi and their descendants were cursed by God. There is no evidence that what Shechem did was fornication, immorality or against the word of God. In actual fact Shechem wanted to fulfil the Word of God by marrying Dinah. (Ex 22 v 16)

God only used this term when a person was not loyal to their partner and had sex with another partner. If they were betrothed it was known as fornication or if they were married it was known as adultery.

Leaders of the Church you are deceived by false doctrine. You are like a dog barking up the wrong tree.

God is only interested in partners being loyal to one another and fulfilling their marriage. God only condemns couples who find other partners. The Church needs to spend its valuable time supporting couples fulfil their marriage. We have a fight against the enemy who is using false doctrine through parents, government laws and Church leaders denying young people to marry.

I would like to hear some feedback on this.

God Bless,

Robert.

I've read (and re-read) your post a few times now, and I have to admit I'm not completely sure just what the point(s) was that you were trying to make. Were you advocating marriage at an early age? That churches should take a more active role in preparing people for marriage? Or something altogether different?

In any case, 1 Timothy 4:16 isn't so narrowly defined to young people and marriage at all. Paul was actually discussing the issue of ascetism; that it didn't automatically make one a more "spiritual" Christian.

But if, as I think is the case, you're suggesting that two young people who have sex before (or outside of) marriage somehow doesn't constitute fornication, and that somehow the action isn't sinful in and of itself, then it's clearly you who is "barking up the wrong tree". The fact remains that there are many forms of behaviour which the Bible labels "immoral" -- pre-marital sex -- or "fornication", being numbered among them. Oh, and so as to provide a little balance to this discussion, Scripture nowhere prescribes that marriage, post illicit coitus, is the necessary solution that "tidies up" the former sin. This Revivalist practice, like many others, is without biblical warrant.

Ian,

The translators used the English word “fornication” which translates in an English dictionary as “sex outside marriage.” Your Bible Concordance will show the meaning as “unlawful sexual intercourse” which is a totally different meaning. Latter translations of the Bible use words such as immorality instead of the Word “Fornication.”

Yes the RCI and most other denominations have it wrong.

The Word of God never commanded a wedding ceremony or a government marriage certificate. If that is however appropriate to your culture or traditions then do so, but neither of these should stop a marriage between two eligible Christians. (Matt;19 v 4-6)

Regarding customs or laws of the land, if they contradict the Word of God then we obey the Word of God and not man's law. The Jew's followed God's law on marriage and do not put obstacles in the way of their children getting married if they cannot contain them selves nor does God discriminate on a person's age when it comes to marriage. "Render unto God what is God's render unto Caesar what is Caesar's". Marriage was created by God not Caesar.

1- If you look in your Bible Concordance you will see that “fornication” means unlawful sex.

2- Read from Genesis to Revelation and find all the sexual acts God deems unlawful. Your interpretation is not there.

3- You will also find that God did not forbid marriage or was prejudice against anyone who believed in Him regardless of age.

4- You will find there was no Government marriage certificates given however on some occasions there was a dowry between families. If two non betrothed believers lay with each other they were engaged and married at the time schedule of the Father of the Bride. This was not called fornication nor was there any penalty imposed. There may have been a dowry but the dowry was the same as if it were an arranged marriage.  Exodus 22 v 16 If any man entice a maid that is not betrothed and lie with her he shall surely endow her to be his wife. If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him (for no money), he shall pay the money according to the dowry of virgins. (and then marry her)

5- The NT has the same parallel as the OT.

6- Paul was saying to find a Christian partner rather than falling into the temptation of an unlawful sexual act that God condemns.

The Westminister Confession is a good example of a marriage union. You are correct these are the things that should be taught, rather than the false condemnation on whether some one has a marriage licence or not. 

You're showing your ignorance again, and completely misrepresenting the position of the divines who drafted the Westminster Confession of Faith. I can tell you now, these men did not believe the absence of a marriage license to be a small thing should two parties be cohabiting as man and wife.

Blessings,

Ian

Ian,
The information has been studied and revealed by the Holy Spirit. I am not wanting this to look as if I am lecturing you or anybody else. I have simply copied information I have used in other discussions on this subject. You can make your own conclusion on what I have said and use the Word of God to reply.

Robert.

Ian,

Like all denominations they are not perfect nor have I ever seen the perfect Church as yet. I do not see eye to eye on some issues. One is the issue on fornication I bring up on this post but at least I have provoked them into doing a study on the subject and await their reply. At least we have some sort of communication there and not forced into confessing their doctrine and are open to change. I have leant a lot there on other gifts of the Holy Spirit rather than completely focused on the ‘Speaking in Tongues' subject although I still believe the RCI message on the Holy Spirit. There have been and still are a number of ex RCI people there who have been able to move on after their experiences in RCI.

Regarding "fornication" you need to study what I have said more closely and also the Jewish direction on marriage. Biblically when two non endowed persons got together sexually they were endowed (engaged) and then married for life at a latter time scheduled by the Father of the Bride. They were not allowed to continue in sexual involvement until after the marriage. The marriage took place once the groom had prepared a place for the bride to live. You will find Biblically and in Jewish culture today that is the direction taken and without a marriage certificate if under legal age. It only became fornication if one of the parties had sexual encounter with another party. There may be however Jews that do not follow the Word of God the same as many Christians and go some other direction.

Robert.

Like all denominations they are not perfect nor have I ever seen the perfect Church as yet. I do not see eye to eye on some issues. One is the issue on fornication I bring up on this post but at least I have provoked them into doing a study on the subject and await their reply. At least we have some sort of communication there and not forced into confessing their doctrine and are open to change. I have leant a lot there on other gifts of the Holy Spirit rather than completely focused on the ‘Speaking in Tongues' subject although I still believe the RCI message on the Holy Spirit. Right. Concentrating for the present moment on the most salient point in the paragraph, above, are you admitting, here, that you still believe what the RCI teaches concerning the necessity of "tongues", and its supposed linkage to be the "evidence" of having received the Holy Spirit?

There have been and still are a number of ex RCI people there who have been able to move on after their experiences in RCI. Sure. But there are probably many more still who haven't been able to move from doctrinal nonsense (a la Revivalism) to biblical orthodoxy. And I'm starting to worry that you might be one of them. Regarding "fornication" you need to study what I have said more closely and also the Jewish direction on marriage. I've studied what you've written in detail, and I've studied the issue from a Jewish perspective in considerable detail (from the primary sources). I'm a little funny that way!

Biblically when two non endowed persons got together sexually they were endowed (engaged) and then married for life at a latter time scheduled by the Father of the Bride. So you keep saying (and then in spite of evidence to the contrary). They were not allowed to continue in sexual involvement until after the marriage. According to the tractate that I quoted from the Jewish Mishna, they were'nt even allowed to get as far as the marriage ceremony!

The marriage took place once the groom had prepared a place for the bride to live. You will find Biblically and in Jewish culture today that is the direction taken and without a marriage certificate if under legal age. It only became fornication if one of the parties had sexual encounter with another party. I think I've more than adequately refuted this view. Answer me this: are you in a position to provide references to the sources that you believe supports your position? I'd love to know what they are.

There may be however Jews that do not follow the Word of God the same as many Christians and go some other direction. Sorry, but such just doesn't wash. What you've alleged to be the case (even among Australian Jewry) simply isn't the case at all. If you still aren't prepared to accept what I say, then by all means visit a local Jewish Temple and speak to the Rabbi. I'm certain that he'll set you straight.

Ian

Paul,

I do recognize you and maybe you knew my wife more than me. I will show my wife your picture when she comes home and S. will tell me all about you. I am sure it will be all good.

I understand exactly what you are saying. There is no black and white solution as each situation is different. Sometimes the parents are not following the Lord and may not agree in marriage or hate the son in law or daughter in law. There is also this false condemnation from Religion when couples get together and rather help them fulfil the marriage they condemn them. And there are other situations as you say where young people are forced into unreasonable heathen marriages. Our children as you know can also turn away from the Lord and Godly direction and have to learn the hard way. In all these circumstances God is greater and can forgive and put us back on track.

Will there be eternal damnation to all young people who did not get married? To some yes and to some no. God knows the situations better than we do and He will be the judge in these matters.

God Bless,

Robert.

Paul,

I do recognize you and maybe you knew my wife more than me. I will show my wife your picture when she comes home and S. will tell me all about you. I am sure it will be all good.

I understand exactly what you are saying. There is no black and white solution as each situation is different. Sometimes the parents are not following the Lord and may not agree in marriage or hate the son in law or daughter in law. There is also this false condemnation from Religion when couples get together and rather help them fulfil the marriage they condemn them. And there are other situations as you say where young people are forced into unreasonable heathen marriages. Our children as you know can also turn away from the Lord and Godly direction and have to learn the hard way. In all these circumstances God is greater and can forgive and put us back on track.

Will there be eternal damnation to all young people who did not get married? To some yes and to some no. God knows the situations better than we do and He will be the judge in these matters.

God Bless,

Robert.

Ian,

Here is your scripture in the OT and the same parallel is in the NT.

Someones age and whether they have a marriage license from the government has no bearing on a marriage or the Word of God. No where was this called fornication, a sin or a penalty imposed.

(Exodus 22 v 16) If any man entice a maid that is not betrothed and lie with her he shall surely endow her to be his wife.

(1 Cor 7 v 9) However if you cannot contain your desires you should get married, it is better for you to get married than to burn with sexual  desire.

Ian if you believe that if some one had a sexual encounter with their life time partner before a marriage certificate was fornication then show me the scripture and the penalty imposed.

Robert.

Ian,

I have read your posts and you have a lot to say about nothing. You sound bitter and twisted and haunted from demons of the past. Call me what you want as this does not faze me one bit. If you want deliverance from your demons I can help you there if you want. But at the moment your comments are not constructive and vindictive against a lot of people. If you want me to answer your posts then let them be constructive and from the Word of God or else you are wasting my time and your time.

God Bless,

Robert.

Hi Stripes,

In 1 Cor 5 v 11. RCI and many other denominations have also miss interpreted the scripture.

When interpreting the Bible many people interpret fornication as "sex before marriage" which is incorrect and quickly condemn any one who is in this situation. We do not know the reason why some people have not had a marriage ceremony. Many young adults have not been able to marry because they are deemed too young by Government laws or their unbelieving parents do not want them to marry. I see to many people condemned unjustly with this wrong interpretation. When a couple got together sexually the Bible direction was for them to be engaged (as not to be involved with a third party) and then married at an appropriate time. There was no penalty, no sin and was not called "fornication."

Fornication does not mean "sex before marriage." The word "fornication" comes from the word "porneia" which was a district where the heather visited prostitutes thus the term "flee fornication" or "flee porneia" as we read in 1Cor 6 v 18. Two Christian people who have slept together are not prostitutes unless they have slept with another party before. The Bible direction is for them to get married.

When the Bible refers to "fornication" it can also be referring to either man with man, woman with woman, man or woman with beast, prostitution, sex with no intention of marriage, relationship with an unbeliever, incest and idolatry and not someone who may have slept with their lifelong partner before a marriage certificate

Your Bible concordance will also show you that fornication represents "unlawful sex". (prostitution, sex with no intention of marriage, homosexuality, laying with a beast, incest, idolatry and marriage to an unbeliever.) You need to look in your Bible to find what God deems "unlawful sex". Lev 20 would be a good start.  The English dictionary translation on "fornication" is "sex outside marriage" as many Church Leaders translate it but the translators of the bible have used an inappropriate English word and have corrected this in more modern translations of the bible and use words such as immorality or indecency.

The use of the word "fornication" in the bible has never been used to describe a couple who have had a sexual encounter between each other before their marriage ceremony or signing of a State marriage certificate. There was no such thing as a State marriage certificate as such when the scriptures were written. The first recording of a census was for taxes. (Luke 2 v 1-5)

Paul's Prophesy

The Apostle Paul prophesied about young adults and marriage on this problem to those in the "Faith" that departed from His Word.

It is our responsibility that Christians have an easy path to marriage but that is not always the case. Paul warned us of this in the latter days in Timothy 4 v 1-5 of this problem. Paul was not talking about a change in food laws but rather young adults and marriage. We read; Now the Spirit speak expressly, (take note of these words) that in the latter times (the last days) some shall depart from the faith (their trust in God) paying heed (paying attention) to seducing spirits (some of the things a seducing spirit would say- "your too young to get married", "marriage will spoil your life", "if you marry your partner it will end in divorce", "you have nothing in common with your partner", "kids will ruin your life", "you need to have an education before you get married", "enjoy life before you get married", "you will never have any money" etc) and doctrine of devils (miss leading teaching) Speaking lies (falsely/not from Gods word) in hypocrisy (acting/guilty of the same conduct, allowing marriage for themselves but not for others) having their conscience seared with a hot iron. (Not able to distinguish what is lawful and unlawful for a Christian) Forbidding (denying/refusing/hindering) to marry, and commanding (coming from a higher office) to abstain (kept from) from meats (Gods instructions/promises) which God has created to be received (Gods blessings to us) with thanksgiving (our praise to God) of them which believe (rely) and know (recognise/know accurately) the truth (nature of God). For every creature (new born soul) of God is good. (beautiful, handsome, excellent, surpassing, precious, useful, suitable, commendable, admiral, shapely and magnificent) and nothing to be refused (neglected, despised) if it be sanctified (made holy, purified, guided by) by the word of God and prayer. (Communion/relationship/friendship with God).

Robert.

I will respond to your post as you seem to be the only one who actually searches and studies the scriptures.

Here are some scriptures OT and NT regarding sexual intimacy between a couple. You will see that there is no penalty nor has it been called "fornication."

Exodus 22 v 16 If any man entice a maid that is not betrothed and lie with her he shall surely endow her to be his wife. If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him (for no money), he shall pay the money according to the dowry of virgins. (and then marry her)

Deut 22 v 28-29 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her and lie with her and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's  father fifty shekels of silver and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

1 Cor 7 v 9 However if you cannot contain your desires you should get married, it is better for you to get married than to burn with sexual desire.

1 Cor 7 v 36 But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not, let them marry.

The Biblical direction is for the Father and the Church is for the couple to be engaged and married at an appropriate time and not condemn the couple. It would only become fornication if one of the couples was not loyal to their partner and found another partner rather than fulfilling the marriage. (This would have been revealed by the blood on the wedding night) The couple were not to continue in sexual activity until after the marriage. The groom was to go and prepare a home for the bride and once this was done the father of the bride allowed the marriage. Sometimes a dowry would be paid also before the marriage took place.

Epi if you have some scriptural examples on your interpretation then please show them to me. Or if anybody else reading this post wants to show me their scriptural examples on their interpretation without negative, baseless talk then show them to me.

Robert.

Hi Paul,

My wife S. knows you and N well when she saw your picture. S and N apparently have known each other for some time. S sends her best to both of you. Yes I have been on this message for some time because of the baseless condemnation of the youth. At times sex can be a lust with no intent of marriage which is a sin and condemn but in many cases it also can be the part of the intimacy of love between two people and should be responded with support for marriage by the Church and parents and not this baseless condemnation.

Here are some scriptures OT and NT regarding sexual intimacy between a couple. You will see that there is no penalty nor has it been called “fornication.”

Exodus 22 v 16 If any man entice a maid that is not betrothed and lie with her he shall surely endow her to be his wife. If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him (for no money), he shall pay the money according to the dowry of virgins. (and then marry her)

Deut 22 v 28-29 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her and lie with her and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel’s  father fifty shekels of silver and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

1 Cor 7 v 9 However if you cannot contain your desires you should get married, it is better for you to get married than to burn with sexual desire.

1 Cor 7 v 36 But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not, let them marry.

The Biblical direction is for the Father and the Church is for the couple to be engaged and married at an appropriate time and not condemn the couple. It would only become fornication if one of the couples was not loyal to their partner and found another partner rather than fulfilling the marriage. (This would have been revealed by the blood on the wedding night) The couple were not to continue in sexual activity until after the marriage. The groom was to go and prepare a home for the bride and once this was done the father of the bride allowed the marriage. Sometimes a dowry would be paid also before the marriage took place.

Paul I respect your thoughts on this and maybe we cannot see eye to eye on this but thanks for your dignified response to this subject. As you can see this forum is a mind field when you have something to say. I am also happy where I am and the approach I am taking.

God Bless,

Robert.

Buenos dias, Roberto.

I will respond to your post as you seem to be the only one who actually searches and studies the scriptures. Or, perhaps it's more a case that you simply refuse to accept the advice previously provided to you by me?

The Biblical direction is for the Father and the Church is for the couple to be engaged and married at an appropriate time and not condemn the couple. Really? Would you please show me a single Scripture that says a Christian couple needs to become engaged and married after engaging in illicit coitus. I can find several that provide advice of this sort prior to the sin, but can't find any that take effect after the act.

It would only become fornication if one of the couples was not loyal to their partner and found another partner rather than fulfilling the marriage. (This would have been revealed by the blood on the wedding night). Ah, but we've already addressed what the appropriate Hebrew and Greek words mean, haven't we?

The couple were not to continue in sexual activity until after the marriage. The groom was to go and prepare a home for the bride and once this was done the father of the bride allowed the marriage. Sometimes a dowry would be paid also before the marriage took place. You've said this several times now, but as I requested previously, I'd like for you to quote for me the references that support the above contention. After all, I've already shown you what the Jews of Jesus' day thought, taught and practiced. Oh, and BTW, the Jewish custom was for the young groom to move in and live with the brides's parents during the first year of the marriage. The custom with the Greeks was for the bride and groom to move into the groom's father's house after the marriage. Yet again you've demonstrated that your opinions simply idea aren't supported by the facts of history. We should be surprised?!

Epi if you have some scriptural examples on your interpretation then please show them to me. Or if anybody else reading this post wants to show me their scriptural examples on their interpretation without negative, baseless talk then show them to me. I suppose we could could start with 1 Corinthians 7:1(b)-2, which actually introduces the context of the passage you've proof-texted for us previously. '"...It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman." But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.' (ESV). The word translated "sexual immorality" in our passage is porneias, the accusative plural form of porneia, the proper meaning of which I addressed in an earlier post on a different thread.

'Man' and 'woman'; not 'husband/betrothed' and 'another woman'. 'Sexual immorality' (i.e. fornication); not adultery. Are you getting any of this yet?

You're wrong. Accept it, repent, and move forwards.

Ian