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theshark
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Date Posted：04/05/2007 11:26 AMCopy HTML It? so sad when evil cults like CAI take your belief in Jesus and God from you. I was a dedicated Christian person before CAI trapped me. Now after I managed to leave CAI I can? believe in a God any more. The abusive leaders in CAI have taken every bit of happiness and my joy over my life from me, I know feel. It? so sad. CAI has to be stopped and destroyed. For us, for all the children (not to mention for all the children inside CAI) and for mankind. CAI is like cancer, and if it not will be stopped it will spread to other people as well.
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Ex_Member
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Re：CAI made me become an atheist. Date Posted：06/05/2007 7:59 AMCopy HTML Reply to : theshark
Shark, Sorry, but the CAI didn't make you an atheist. You made that decision for yourself. Ian |
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Rescuethem
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Re：CAI made me become an atheist. Date Posted：08/05/2007 5:50 AMCopy HTML Reply to : SOTT1
the Shark / Sott1 I can understand what you mean shark but I agree with Sott here as well. It is your decision. Sott, nevertheless it is hard to say it so clear as you have done it w/o any more words. You have never been part of the CAI. But maybe if you read more about the CAI you can get a touch of the cult. Shark, go on and give yourself a chance with Jesus. Forget Scott! Rescue them.
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Re：CAI made me become an atheist. Date Posted：04/10/2008 6:32 PMCopy HTML Folks say they are atheist because they haven't knowingly seen the christ. The truth is, many people which think they are atheist really are not. They express love, joy, peace, patience, etc. We can't see love because it's invisible. We can't see joy because it's invisible. However, we can see the expression of these things and the expression is the son of god. How do we know? Because God is love. God is joy. God is peace. God is patience...and the expression of God thru mankind is the Son.
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Re：CAI made me become an atheist. Date Posted：02/12/2008 6:22 AMCopy HTML I agree with theshark the CAI does take all happiness and hope away from u. leaving those fuk heads was the best thing i ever did they destroyed my life and trust n God |
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Re：CAI made me become an atheist. Date Posted：02/12/2008 11:00 AMCopy HTML Hey wtf,,,, GOd had nothing to do with cai , nothing at all really he wasnt even on there page, so dont loose your trust in God, just keep those idiots away from you and yours and get out there and enjoy life |
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LifeIsNotARehearsal
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Re：CAI made me become an atheist. Date Posted：14/01/2009 8:17 PMCopy HTML A questioning mind, an education in science and thousands of hours of reading made me an athiest.
The claims about the existence of god or gods just didn't stack up. Just ancient superstitions muddled with a willing suspension of disbelief, backed up by a large dose of groupthink. Couldn't imagine believing all that claptrap now... it just seems so silly. ...and on the Eighth Day, Man created God.
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Talmid
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Re：CAI made me become an atheist. Date Posted：14/01/2009 10:53 PMCopy HTML Hi LNR
A questioning mind, an education in science (Master's level including biology and mathematics) and thousands of hours of reading (including a smattering of philosophy) has left me confident in my Christianity. We ex-Revivalists need to remember that "revivalist" teaching often has little biblical Christianity in its docrtinal mix, although in my experience there are Christians in the groups. Atheism per se is, from a logical perspective, arguably a self-defeating proposition. Agnosticism on the other hand is a *little* more challenging. Science is great, but the logical fallacy of Hume's fork needs to be recognised. The evidence for Mann-made global warming is unequivocal.
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LifeIsNotARehearsal
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Re：CAI made me become an atheist. Date Posted：15/01/2009 6:32 AMCopy HTML Hi Talmid, ...and on the Eighth Day, Man created God.
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Talmid
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Re：CAI made me become an atheist. Date Posted：15/01/2009 7:21 AMCopy HTML Hi LNR
Aaah ... I was assuming the defn of atheism used in philosophy: viz the positive affirmation that there is(are) no god(s) ... rather than the watered down version adopted to avoid catostrophic failure in debates ;-) If you're saying god(s) may or may not exist then that's 'agnosticism' in the world of philosophy. Now ... if you're positively affirming that there's nothing 'supernatural' you come up against the same kind of problem as philosophical atheism. To whet you appetite a little further, I think you've missed my point about Hume's fork. In brief, in the form I know it, it's self-defeating. The evidence for Mann-made global warming is unequivocal.
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LifeIsNotARehearsal
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Re：CAI made me become an atheist. Date Posted：15/01/2009 8:13 AMCopy HTML Hi Talmid - this sounds like a good discussion to have over a beer or three :) As you identify yourself as Christian, I'll take it as a given that you believe that the archangel Gabriel did not appear to Mohammed and dictate the Koran. Answer this question: did this happen or did it not? I would like to see the form in which you answer the question. ...and on the Eighth Day, Man created God.
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Re：CAI made me become an atheist. Date Posted：15/01/2009 9:11 AMCopy HTML Yo LNR > An agnostic is a fence-sitter - he treats the likelihood of the existence or non-existence of gods to be equally probable. An atheist (such as myself) says that upon examination of available evidence, the probability is remote at best. I personally think that an agnostic is someone who hasn't opened enough books on the subject to make a valid comment. Perhaps he doesn't care, which I can see is also a valid standpoint, though perhaps a little vacuous. The evidence for Mann-made global warming is unequivocal.
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