Ian,

I appreciate your reply but it is sad you totally missed the point.  You took each part out of context, maybe to get a reply, maybe to annoy me or perhaps because you are an ignoramus, in this instance its all three.

My friend, if people mind their own business and give money to the church like the bible says to then what happens once the money goes into the tithe bag is not of importance.  They have given from the heart, to the church, if the church abuses that then thats on them.  If people are that worried about where their money is going DONT GIVE IT.  Its a simple solution.

If a persons focus is on minor issues like chourses and finances and they get up in arms about them they probably have more have deep seeded issues.

Its all quite simple - as God would have it, and people can complicate their walk by focusing on money, and as we know love of it is the root of all evil, if one makes a churches finances their focus they complicate matters un-necessarily.
The most important thing in this issue of church finances is that it is all based on the assumption that the oversight abuse it. 
The RCI never begs or asks for money.  Have you ever seen one of those religious shows begging for money and promising blessings from money? well thats thd benchmark and definition of - as you say "fleecing".

So bollocks is all you have to say to my guideline theory? any reasons or does it just hit home too hard and you cant break that one down?

Mate it sounds like you are more clued in on the RCI than me.  I thought we used the Holy Spirit to interpret scripture and understand what the bible is saying.  To be honest I know next to nothing about BI and it doesnt underpin any of my understanding, the spirit does.

Your correct on one thing though, you are either in or not in the church, that does not mean RCI or any other organisation, when the Lord returns the organisation will not meet him in the air, but many individuals all fellowshipping in organisations and some not fortunate enough to have people to fellowship with, in any case all those doing gods will and walking in the spirit will meet him when he returns, is that wrong?
Just because one belongs to an organisation does not mean they will not meet the lord in the air, its about what they are doing and their mindset as the individual.

I hope you dont fail to understand this post, if so let me know and I can try to draw pictures for you to understand.

Oh and by the way, the topic is "letter to pastor simon" and I didnt want people think I am when im not, so once again I stress I am not pastor simon.

enjoy

PMSL... oh, that's harsh. Harsh Ian but, Holy Cowamondo, Revival churches are truly the religious equivalent to the unfortunate winners of the Darwin Awards - http://www.darwinawards.com/. I take it from the attitude that Sir Loinsalot is in his teens. I hope Simon Longfield does read this at some point, although I wonder if it'll all go straight over his head too.

Remember a time when giving swags of money over to smiling men with ties, thinking it was a burnt offering to god in the hope for a prosperous financial reward seemed like a good idea? Remember when thinking Revival churches were 'The Church'? Remember giving teenagers a nice long list of rules to follow? Remember pretending to love singing the same old little chorus ditties a billion times? Unreal... and it's unreal that Sir Loin Cloth is actually shaking his head while reading this and wondering why on earth people would not be pro-Revival. Another mystery huh.

British Israel is still a major part of RCI beliefs and is prominantly displayed on the website... not hidden at all. How rather embarrassing for them. Either they turned a blind eye to their fundamental doctrines being historically disproven or someone forget to delete the website - http://www.rci.org.au/bible_studies/index.htm - How long have you been in Revival anyway? Yes, it does seem people here are more 'clued' up on your own church than you are.

Hey Not Pastor Simon dude, could you draw me a picture to help explain your future posts... use crayons, scan it in, we'll all have a good laugh, and praise the lord anyway. It seems that many commentators are accusing each other of poor english comprehension skills this week, so yeah, diagrams and pictures might help.

Sorry MrKm, this forum is not for people who want the RCI to continue and grow. I'm sure it will continue but would be sorry to see it grow. And as for your request for non-negative comments, well... that's all relative. Anyone who truly cares (or 'loves') the people in RCI would be encouraging them to see it for what it is 'cause, as you can see in this thread, most of them don't even realise they have a problem in the first place.

whoa there tonto ! I haven't been to THIS church yet (but I'm gonna try it out) sounds really interesting. Yes I STILL believe much of what was taught in RCI but I am over the British/Israel thing and other stuff, however, I'm not ready to 'throw the baby out with the bathwater'.
I've spoken to the Pastor there and listened to a couple of cd's he sent me, very refreshing I must say.
Anyways, peace out & take care brothers.

Phil,

Can't edit so ... please replace "supports arguments trinitarianism" with "supports argments *against* trinitarianism"

To Dear Ian,

For what it’s worth, thought it timely to put some thoughts down for you to “please consider”:) 

Firstly, in response to "there are none so blind as those who refuse to see", well this is as applicable to you as it is anyone else.  I encourage you to bare this in mind as you blindly continue to refuse to see the rest of what I have to say.

So you know the scriptures back to front from a man’s point of view but what about from the Lord’s point of view – without the discernment of the Spirit you CANNOT understand His Word and it’s purpose.  Furthermore you are missing the point - the Lord is more than scripture!  His plan goes far and beyond what was recorded and written down in words.  If you had the Spirit you would know and understand this and would not hold yourself in such high regard.  You proclaim to be an expert on the interpretation of different languages like the Greek and the Hebrew? – well here’s one for you; “fool” - it’s English and describes you perfectly, look it up....!

In response to your retort to the question put to you:  Do you speak in tongues? ... “given that "tongues" is such an insignificant issue with respect to my personal spirituality, the answer is largely moot!”  What has your personal spirituality got to do with salvation?  We were all born with the ability to hone into our own ‘spirituality’.  The Holy Spirit on the other hand (I can only assume this is what you are loosely referring to) dwells inside us and guides us – the Holy Spirit is given to us and therefore is not actually a part of what makes up our personal spirituality or inner awareness.

Well, do you speak in tongues... yes or no?  Whether or not you were once a Revivalist has nothing to do with this!  I would have thought someone of your supposed learned abilities would be able to answer a simple yes or no question.  Whilst tongues is not the be-all and end-all, consider tongues as proof/ evidence of the Holy Spirit – it’s just one part of the complete package if you will.  You impudently use the evidence of scripture to prove your point of view at any given time.... yet you and others are happy to proclaim your salvation to the world without any evidence or proof received from God that you have actually been granted it?  Come now....:(  And no, this is not what I know to be true based on what I was spoon-fed in RCI.  Reading the scriptures independent from any organisation or individual, I cannot deny the context with which tongues is referred to in the bible, neither can I deny the gift of tongues that I have received and my ability to communicate with the Lord in both tongues and in English.  Without the Lord providing me with the gift of tongues, how would I know that which I have received?  I say again, tongues is not the be-all and end-all, nor should it be regarded as more important than the other manifestations of the Spirit.  The way I see it, someone may say they speak in tongues therefore they are saved (broadly RCIs mentality), however unless they demonstrate all of the fruits of the Spirit in their daily walk, they fall short – tongues alone does not guarantee salvation.

Ian, you’re a hypocrite, pure and simple – no better than the revival leaders you condemn.  Before I left RCI I knew SL fairly well (was never in his inner circle though, thank goodness) and over the years his arrogance became quite apparent to me, especially during the last couple of phone conversations I had with him – it was sad.  By comparison, you and SL are much more alike than you would like to admit – both caught up in you’re status as human beings and the title that has been bestowed to you as custodians of the scriptures.  My 8 year old daughter has a better understanding of Christ than you could ever hope to gain through your knowledge of the scriptures, and do you know why?  It’s because she sees the Lord’s will and her relationship with her God through the eyes of a child....isn’t that (scripturally) the way we are instructed to read and implement His Word? (Refer Mark 10:14&15 and Matthew 18:1-6).  So it is you who needs to take a good long look at yourself – take your learned ‘literary professor’ hat off and put on the hat of a child.  The Lord is returning for the meek and the humble... not the person who claims to know more of the scriptures than everyone else.  Besides, knowing the scriptures is one thing putting them into practice is another – you clearly don’t have a grasp on either.

Many innocent people enter this website searching for answers.  You have simply taken advantage of their vulnerability and have preyed on them – it doesn’t take a genius (or a university lecturer?) to see the irony in this.  I have been reading much of what you (and those who support you) have posted on this site for some time now, however until now I have been able to walk away shaking my head and dismissing much of the dribble as nothing but verbal diarrhoea.  Well my conscience has finally gotten the better of me and I now feel compelled to speak up for many of those out there who, like me, have just stood back with amusement.  This is what I know to be fact - you are no more than a person who pervades the domain of intellectual speculation and diffuses himself through the channels of moral activity.  As such, you are causing more damage to those who seek your advice than they ever could have received from attending any revival church – and that’s saying something given the hurt and damage that I have personally experienced and have witnessed from those who either left or have been put out of RCI.  Your arrogance and foolishness beggars belief and you are as much an antichrist as the Pope himself.  Still blind and refusing to see....?

You say you are not a Longfield to warrant not setting up your own church, but in fact this forum is your own way of holding such a position.  You cowardly hide behind a flimsy facade as you preach false doctrine to those who logon to this website.  By not even taking on the responsibility of having a personal face to face relationship with those in your cyber-flock you demonstrate a lack of accountability for what you say and do.