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Date Posted：01/09/2011 4:57 PMCopy HTML Who thinks ian is a bully lets vote.....Everybody reply HI ian i dont think u are a bully lol but i think this would make a good topic to have a discussion on so ian what do u think should we put it to the vote friend??????
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Re：who thinks ian is a bully lets vote..... Date Posted：10/10/2011 2:31 AMCopy HTML Ian, I have a couple of questions for you if you don't mind; 1) Have you ever 'spoken in tongues' (in the manner practised by members of the GRC)? 2) Were you ever a member of the GRC? |
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Didaktikon
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Re：who thinks ian is a bully lets vote..... Date Posted：10/10/2011 4:16 AMCopy HTML Hello, Guest.
Ian, I have a couple of questions for you if you don't mind ... I don't mind in the slightest. 1) Have you ever 'spoken in tongues' (in the manner practised by members of the GRC)? 'Yes'. 2) Were you ever a member of the GRC? 'No'. I was a member of the Revival Centres International (RCI). Does this trouble you? Blessings, Ian email: didaktikon@gmail.com
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Re：who thinks ian is a bully lets vote..... Date Posted：10/10/2011 8:22 AMCopy HTML Reply to Didaktikon Hello, Guest. Ian, I have a couple of questions for you if you don't mind ... I don't mind in the slightest. 1) Have you ever 'spoken in tongues' (in the manner practised by members of the GRC)? 'Yes'. 2) Were you ever a member of the GRC? 'No'. I was a member of the Revival Centres International (RCI). Does this trouble you? Blessings, Ian I do acknowledge Ian that you seem to have a lot of knowledge on interpretation of biblical passage (which is fine if one is trying to follow the bible to the letter but totally irrelevant of course if one doesn't believe the bible is the word of God and would rather just adapt the doctrines they find particularly helpful). What troubles me though is that you often appear to have a distinct lack of empathy for the GRC culture and those who have suffered under it or still dealing with it, which was/is quite different in many ways to that of the RCI. GRC culture itself has subtly changed over the years as well. I think sometimes because of this you alienate many of the posters here, particularly as it is meant to be, as I see it, an area of the site, in the main, specifically for ex members of the GRC and those contemplating leaving the GRC. It is often very obvious to us ex GRC's your distinct lack of understanding in these matters and it worries me that many people avoid coming here now out of fear they will be dealt with by someone who doesn't really understand their situation. I don't say this to have a go at you, nor do I mean to be brutal, but just to point out what is bleeding obvious to many of us who come here. Obviously I have no interest in educating you on the finer points of GRC culture and the impact it has on the lives and psych of its followers because I would rather just interact with with those who have lived through it and already understand what I am talking about. Is it too much to ask the moderator (you) to be considerate of this and as much as possible keep the GRC discussion board primarily for those specifically from the GRC? Would it be possible for an area in this forum (or posts) to be set up (or marked as GRC only), as was done in the past, where true GRC posters may interact with each other without fear that their posts will be hijacked, commented on or be ridiculed by those who obviously have no understanding and not previously part of the GRC culture? I know that you outsiders think you have all the answers and know exactly what we need to hear but the fact of the matter is that your comments in many cases are not helpful nor appreciated no matter how much you think you are right. No doubt there can be other areas of the forum where GRC people can go (or permission given) if they particularly want outsiders to also comment. Your consideration in this area Ian (and his cronies) would be much appreciated. Thank you. PS: For what it is worth I would like to add that I believe your practice of revealing the identities of posters who have signed in as a guest just because you are in a position to know their IP address is a gross misuse of your powers as a moderator. This should only be done in the most extreme circumstances, not just because you are annoyed at a comment they made which is different to what you think. That is classic bullying. |
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Didaktikon
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Re：who thinks ian is a bully lets vote..... Date Posted：10/10/2011 9:40 AMCopy HTML Hello again, Guest. I do acknowledge Ian that you seem to have a lot of knowledge on interpretation of biblical passage (which is fine if one is trying to follow the bible to the letter but totally irrelevant of course if one doesn't believe the bible is the word of God and would rather just adapt the doctrines they find particularly helpful). I'd suggest to you that if one doesn't believe Scripture is the Word of God, then there's nothing more irrelevant than attempting to 'adapt the doctrines' to suit one's personal preferences. Irrelevant and dumb, actually. What troubles me though is that you often appear to have a distinct lack of empathy for the GRC culture and those who have suffered under it or still dealing with it, which was/is quite different in many ways to that of the RCI. GRC culture itself has subtly changed over the years as well. Your feelings got hurt, did they? I empathise with all who've been through the Revivalist wringer, but empathy doesn't translate into sympathy for the peurile, the self-absorbed, the time-wasters and the drones who want nothing more than to hold rolling 'pity-parties'. My role on this forum is to present pertinent information that will help people to make sense of their Revivalist experiences, irrespective of their particular 'brand' or sect of origin. To be perfectly blunt, there's nothing whatsoever special or unique about you ex-GRC types. I've engaged with hundreds of Revivalists over the years, from all of the major (and some minor) groups, and whilst you might like to think that you're a breed apart from the rest of us, you're not :) I think sometimes because of this you alienate many of the posters here, particularly as it is meant to be, as I see it, an area of the site, in the main, specifically for ex members of the GRC and those contemplating leaving the GRC. Really? I reckon I could count the number of former GRC people whom I've alienated here on my two hands, and still have fingers to spare. You need to understand that I'm free to wander where I will, commenting as I will. I intentionally absented myself from your 'special room' for about a year, and despite this, you laddies and lasses struggled to cobble together any conversations that lasted for longer than a deep breath! Every so often one or another will whinge about being denied a 'voice' here, yet when provided with ample opportunity to exercise one, you fellows can barely manage a child's whimper. Sorry, but I fail to see how that is my fault ;) It is often very obvious to us ex GRC's your distinct lack of understanding in these matters and it worries me that many people avoid coming here now out of fear they will be dealt with by someone who doesn't really understand their situation. I understand your sect much better than you credit me with. Further, unlike the vast majority of former GRC-ers, I'm in a position of being able to compare and contrast your group's beliefs and practices against those of the RCI and TRF. I've done so for years, and so I'll reiterate: there's nothing particularly special about your lot. If you don't believe me, ask Ralph. After all he's been GRC, RCI and TRF. A couple of times each! I don't say this to have a go at you, nor do I mean to be brutal, but just to point out what is bleeding obvious to many of us who come here. Obviously I have no interest in educating you on the finer points of GRC culture and the impact it has on the lives and psych of its followers because I would rather just interact with with those who have lived through it and already understand what I am talking about. Sure, and you're perfectly free to do so, so have at it. Is it too much to ask the moderator (you) to be considerate of this and as much as possible keep the GRC discussion board primarily for those specifically from the GRC? A 'Discussion Board' requires discussion. For whatever reason the GRC followers on this forum seem to struggle with this concept. Furthermore, your friends also seem to want to have a go at imposing their former sectarian behaviours of separation and isolation, here. Sorry, but that doesn't, and won't, 'wash' with me. You desperately need to hear what others think of your beliefs and behaviours, and if you had any common sense, you'd welcome the critical feedback such engagement affords. Would it be possible for an area in this forum (or posts) to be set up (or marked as GRC only), as was done in the past, where true GRC posters may interact with each other without fear that their posts will be hijacked, commented on or be ridiculed by those who obviously have no understanding and not previously part of the GRC culture? Nope. It was tried, and conclusively demonstrated to be a pointless exercise. If you're not happy with the current arrangements then I suggest that you follow through with one of Tom's former (and hollow) threats: depart en masse and establish your own 'closed-shop' chat room elsewhere. To be perfectly frank, I'd doubt that we'd even notice your collective absence for the first year or so. I know that you outsiders think you have all the answers and know exactly what we need to hear but the fact of the matter is that your comments in many cases are not helpful nor appreciated no matter how much you think you are right. No doubt there can be other areas of the forum where GRC people can go (or permission given) if they particularly want outsiders to also comment. We 'outsiders', huh? This speaks volumes about: (a) how you perceive others who have experienced exactly the same abuse as you, and (b) how little you've moved on from Revivalism. And whilst it may be a bitter pill for you to have to swallow, I do have the answers and I do know what you need to hear. Well, if you want a decent shot at being spiritually, socially and emotionally healthy anyway. Your consideration in this area Ian (and his cronies) would be much appreciated. Thank you. Not adverse to a little 'back-handed' praise, huh? We (I'll deign to speak for my 'cronies' as well) have given the former GRC crowd ample consideration here, over the years. But we will 'give' as good as we 'get'. The same rules apply to all :) PS: For what it is worth I would like to add that I believe your practice of revealing the identities of posters who have signed in as a guest just because you are in a position to know their IP address is a gross misuse of your powers as a moderator. This should only be done in the most extreme circumstances, not just because you are annoyed at a comment they made which is different to what you think. That is classic bullying. No, what it is is a practice that keeps people 'relatively' honest. Too many of your kith and kin believe they are free to take cheap shots at others for no other reason then they believe their anonymity renders them able to do so without fear of exposure or recrimination. Wrong attitude, friend. Next, it takes a lot more to 'annoy' me than some rather unsophisticated ad hominem attacks. I've been receiving such from your pastors for well over a decade, and yet here I am still, doing what I 'do' ;) Blessings, Ian
email: didaktikon@gmail.com
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Re：who thinks ian is a bully lets vote..... Date Posted：22/08/2013 9:09 AMCopy HTML He's just a fool, or perhaps needs Psychiatric help, probably the later, in which case, please get it, you have ruined this forum!
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Re：who thinks ian is a bully lets vote..... Date Posted：23/08/2013 4:25 AMCopy HTML Whatever you may think Ian is, he is no fool, that's for sure.
I believe in Christianity as I believe the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. C.S.Lewis.
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Re：who thinks ian is a bully lets vote..... Date Posted：23/08/2013 7:28 AMCopy HTML John. Long time, no sneer.
He's just a fool, or perhaps needs Psychiatric help, probably the later, in which case, please get it, you have ruined this forum! Ha, ha, ha. Clearly you know as much about psychology as you do Christian Scripture and theology! Seriously, if you believe your opinion counts for much here, then you're in greater need of a 'shrink' then I am. My advice? Spend some time actually helping people to leave 'Revival' instead of just whining (go back and re-read your 60-odd posts. 'Illuminating'). Once you can undergird your various opinions with credibility, feel free to come on back and share something that's worth the time it takes to read. Goose. Ian email: didaktikon@gmail.com
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