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Here you go guys, a whole new thread dedicated to the two of you.
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Galien,

Clearly you've been mistaken about a raft of issues, then
To begin with, this is a discussion forum; a place where ideas can be offered for consideration, and tested for merit. Sorry that your multiplied personal opinions haven't stood up to any sort of scrutiny, but such is simply a fact of life (whether "gifted" or not). If you don't like it, you have two choices: "lump" it or leave

Goose.

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Galien

Has everyone else just left due to lack of interest?

Um .... no!!!

I reckon they're all there in cyber space still, some good buddies of mine, waiting to get a word in edgewise!!

You said "no one even gets a look in here anymore" .... hello!!!  Too many good and deep thinkers are out there, perhaps waiting for you to run out of bitterness and accusation. I fear this isn't going to be any time soon??

This forum got along fine with much kindness and understanding and occasionally a difference of opinion for spice. You leave little room for this to occur. As a relative newcomer here I started by reading a lot of past posts, learned how it works, careful not to upset any unwritten forum etiquette. Have a read back for yourself.

You seem never to engage in discussions about 'real' spiritual/biblical issues. Just today/last evening you took some banter between obvious well-acquainted friends (Ian and Brolga) and decided to take it to the forum proper and start up another attack. You do not know the depth of their friendship, past conversations or whether tongue-in-cheek was at play. 

You heap abuse on one of the most careful and respected teachers I've met in a while. I am not alone in my appreciation. You, however, are alone in your contempt.

Do us a favour, go for a long walk and rethink your approach. There is room for improvement.

I use my full name hereunder because I'm a bit miffed.

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I reckon they're all there in cyber space still, some good buddies of mine, waiting to get a word in edgewise!!

Anyone can say anything at any time can't they?

You said "no one even gets a look in here anymore" .... hello!!!  Too many good and deep thinkers are out there, perhaps waiting for you to run out of bitterness and accusation. I fear this isn't going to be any time soon??

Not bitter, just want to know why christians are not happy unless they are telling everyone else how to live, and why none of the christians on here ever tell ian to shut up when he is being rude to people.

This forum got along fine with much kindness and understanding and occasionally a difference of opinion for spice. You leave little room for this to occur. As a relative newcomer here I started by reading a lot of past posts, learned how it works, careful not to upset any unwritten forum etiquette. Have a read back for yourself.

Have.

You seem never to engage in discussions about 'real' spiritual/biblical issues.

Real? What DOES that mean?

Just today/last evening you took some banter between obvious well-acquainted friends (Ian and Brolga) and decided to take it to the forum proper and start up another attack. You do not know the depth of their friendship, past conversations or whether tongue-in-cheek was at play. 

Didaktikon: Ralph. I think you might be harboring some significant misunderstandings about God, his nature, and what is or is not "appropriate behaviour" with rspect to him. Ian

You didnt think he meant that seriously? Ian KNOWS how we all should think. We don't. Apparently we need his help to get it right. I really do not understand why you don't find that incredibly offensive.

You heap abuse on one of the most careful and respected teachers I've met in a while. I am not alone in my appreciation. You, however, are alone in your contempt.

Careful? Not with his mouth. And no, I am not alone. And it isnt necessarily contempt. Its more like being completely gobsmacked that anyone who has come out of revival would behave with such contempt for the ability of others to work things out for themselves.

Do us a favour, go for a long walk and rethink your approach. There is room for improvement.

There is always room for improvement, in all of us.

I use my full name hereunder because I'm a bit miffed.

Sorry to miff you chips, but he makes me want to spit chips as well.
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Galien

How DARE anyone presume to tell another how to love their god, or tell them how they love him is WRONG.

How dare *you* presume to tell *me* that I should not love YHWH by pointing out to someone who claims to be a Christian  when  he/she is not doing what is written in what I believe to be  YHWH's inscripturated word, and is therfore not doing what  JHWH says?

If your love for YHWH is contingent on telling others what they are doing wrong, then I feel sad for you.

You miss my point. You are hypocritical with the way you apply the first statement: you can tell others how to love God (ie certain things shouldn't be done), but disallow others the same right. In fact, the way you use the statement is self-contradictory and therefore a nonsense.

Now, since this isn't the "orthodox Christian" forum I have no problem with you expressing you pov, provided normal etiquette applies. As far as I'm concerned feel free to say what you like, as long as you're prepared to meet challenge without flaming.

IMO Ian is *blunt*, rather than rude, although sometimes a little "naughty". His approach really is *very* similar to that of Jesus as recorded in the bible. The pharisees were *livid* with what he said to them. They were *very* particular about loving YHWH to the best of their ability but in critical aspects they were *wrong*. Similaly you would be wise to consider the truth of what Ian says, even though he isn't JC, despite your reaction to his manner.

Why don't Xians challenge Ian's manner? Some years ago I suggested Ian use more "honey" and less "vinegar" to "catch his flies". (I'm not the lone ranger there.) He quite reasonably pointed out that such a call was his to make. But frankly I think you're being hypocritcally inconsistent in your call. *You* responded to his intellectual challenges with disparaging remarks about the size of his you-know-what! *You* continue to attack his motives.

Finally, you mentioned self-esteem issues some time ago . I have chronic lack of self-esteem. I see in your comments about Ian being "controlling" and "not being allowed to be yourself" the same sort of gut-level reactions I can have when being given advice by people with "strong personalities". The problem is not with them. It's with me, and I'm learning to deal with it. I'd suggest you ponder the possibility of such skewing of your own perspective!
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If your love for YHWH is contingent on telling others what they are doing wrong, then I feel sad for you.

You miss my point. You are hypocritical with the way you apply the first statement: you can tell others how to love God (ie certain things shouldn't be done), but disallow others the same right. In fact, the way you use the statement is self-contradictory and therefore a nonsense.

I have no interest in telling anyone else how to love God. I have every interest in not being told how do to it, and further interest in not being spoken to like I am a moron because I disagree. I paticularly hate it when he does it to others.

Now, since this isn't the "orthodox Christian" forum I have no problem with you expressing you pov, provided normal etiquette applies. As far as I'm concerned feel free to say what you like, as long as you're prepared to meet challenge without flaming.

IMO Ian is *blunt*, rather than rude, although sometimes a little "naughty". His approach really is *very* similar to that of Jesus as recorded in the bible. The pharisees were *livid* with what he said to them. They were *very* particular about loving YHWH to the best of their ability but in critical aspects they were *wrong*. Similaly you would be wise to consider the truth of what Ian says, even though he isn't JC, despite your reaction to his manner.

I am just as naughty as he is, I will own that. But I'm not the "christian teacher" am I. I know what Ian says, its why he says it that interests me.

Why don't Xians challenge Ian's manner? Some years ago I suggested Ian use more "honey" and less "vinegar" to "catch his flies". (I'm not the lone ranger there.) He quite reasonably pointed out that such a call was his to make. But frankly I think you're being hypocritcally inconsistent in your call. *You* responded to his intellectual challenges with disparaging remarks about the size of his you-know-what! *You* continue to attack his motives.

I guess that is because I don 't find Ian's "challenges" intellectual in the slightest, and yes, I do doubt his motives. I understand that he believes he has found the holy grail in the orthodox church, and that he wants to share that with others. It would be nice though if he could keep his damn nose out when he has been clearly told his opinions are NOT wanted, and the individual does NOT want his "teaching" rammed down their throat. Coming out of a cult that convinced me I was separated from god to the point where I had a breakdown, do you really think he needs to labour the issue of me not being a christian and not having anything to do with god. If he succeeded in convincing me, and I had another breakdown, do you think he would even CARE?

Finally, you mentioned self-esteem issues some time ago . I have chronic lack of self-esteem. I see in your comments about Ian being "controlling" and "not being allowed to be yourself" the same sort of gut-level reactions I can have when being given advice by people with "strong personalities". The problem is not with them. It's with me, and I'm learning to deal with it. I'd suggest you ponder the possibility of such skewing of your own perspective!

I am told I have a strong personality, although I do not feel strong. My self esteem issues are in the past. I am a strong believer in the four temperament types, sanguine, phlegmatic, melacholy and choleric. Choleric types believe they know everything better than everyone else, and are not able to shut up and leave others alone to just be who they are. I have the same issue with all of them, not just Ian. No one likes to be ridden roughshod over by a tank of a person who has no respect for your intelligence, your experience or your ideas. No one wants to be at the mercy of a big mouth know all who can't shut up long enough to listen or care about how you feel inside. Ian likes to think god doesn't care about how we feel but I do not believe that for a second.

If I have a chronic problem Talmid, it is being chronically disgusted by people who want to be on top and won't settle for anything less, even if it means hurting, disparaging and dismissing the contents of the other person's heart, especially when they are a christian. Show me ANYWHERE in the bible where its okay to do that. I am tired of otherwise intelligent people who use their intelligence to look down upon and disparage others who are not as intelligent. To me the measure of a person is how they treat those who are weaker than they are.

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This crap goes on in all religious organisations, not just Revival. Ian was in revival for five minutes, doesn't make him an expert. If anything he studied the oversight very carefully, and he operates just like them. Having been the owners of social control for 2000 years, christian churches are not going to give up their power, ever. More fool those who continue to believe their lies.

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This crap goes on in all religious organisations, not just Revival. Ian was in revival for five minutes, doesn't make him an expert. If anything he studied the oversight very carefully, and he operates just like them. Having been the owners of social control for 2000 years, christian churches are not going to give up their power, ever. More fool those who continue to believe their lies.


Hi Galien,

WRONG again.

The orthodox churches I have attended these last few years, I find no evidence of such, your claims. 

On the contrary, these are the places to go if one wants to worship God without the "crap".

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Galien,

This crap goes on in all religious organisations, not just Revival. It also goes on in non-religious organisations too. Ian was in revival for five minutes, doesn't make him an expert. I was in the RCI for three years, long enough to work out the broad contours of the 'system'. However, since around 1995 I've researched, and in considerable detail, the doctrines and the practices of the two principle Revivalist sects. I've visited scores of assemblies throughout Australia, I've corresponded with hundreds of leaders and followers, and I've read thousands of pages of material produced by, for and about these groups. What makes me an (perhaps even 'the') expert on Revivalism is the level of the research and analysis that I've undertaken. If anything he studied the oversight very carefully, and he operates just like them. Yeah, sure I do. Having been the owners of social control for 2000 years, christian churches are not going to give up their power, ever. More fool those who continue to believe their lies. More fool those who are silly enough to trust your uninformed and ignorant opinions, actually.

Goose.

Ian

If a person who has been a christian and done as much study as Ian can STILL be so much of an icy hearted prick, and be held up as some kind of example of what a christian should be, I'm out. The bloom was already off the rose when I came back to this forum. It was Ian's constant harrassment of me that made me realise there is actually nothing supernatural going on in the churches at all. Just men who love power and believe they have the right to walk all over others.

Consider me your first deconvert Ian. I want nothing to do with any organisation or individual that takes you seriously.
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Galien,

Rest assured, I'm not losing any sleep over your 'de-convert' claim given that you weren't a Christian to begin with. Your input here over the past couple of years has simply reinforced what many of us knew all along. And that is that you're a (1) gobby; (2) uninformed; (3) arrogant; (4) self-righteous; and (5) overly-opinionated, man-hating whinger.

I simply don't waste any of my time considering you at all, as your fixation with me isn't reciprocal.

Goose.

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You mistakenly assume you attract "nutters" -  whatever they are. You are pretty good at labelling those who do not agree with you.What you attract are people who are utterly gobsmacked by how truly awful you are, who stand there and look kind of in the same way as those who witness an atrocity of some kind. So unable to get their head around what they see, they know they should look away, but are so paralysed by the horror of it they cannot. Fixated? Yeah sure I am.

You still don't get it that it is not up to you to decide who is a christian and who isn't. You are not god, or even his right hand man as much as you manage to convince the sheep that you are.

Gobby? Pretty funny coming from you. Blab on all you want Ian, you are still an unmitigated asshole and my original assessment of you still stands.


 
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Galien,

You mistakenly assume you attract "nutters" -  whatever they are. 'Mistakenly'? You are pretty good at labelling those who do not agree with you. Lots of people don't agree with me, and yet most of them aren't 'nutters'. Those possessive of the range of traits that warrant the term 'nutter', thankfully, are a minority. Does this make you feel privileged? What you attract are people who are utterly gobsmacked by how truly awful you are, who stand there and look kind of in the same way as those who witness an atrocity of some kind. Wow! If you believe this rubbish, then I doubt that you've ever witnessed a true attrocity. Your perspective of my character, in common with your views about God, Christianity, and men, is, well, off kilter. So unable to get their head around what they see, they know they should look away, but are so paralysed by the horror of it they cannot. 'Oh the humanity!' You can't get 'your head around what you see', because said head is apparently lodged too far up your back passage to be able to see clearly. Face facts, Tracey, it's pride that prevents you from heeding any advice, or taking any correction from anyone. In focussing on me supposedly 'harrassing' you, you've clearly overlooked that I'm not the only person who hasconsistently  taken you to task over your multiplied rubbish. Just about every regular on this forum has 'called' you at one point or several, remember? Fixated? Yeah sure I am. Hallelujah! Whilst it's taken months to achieve, you've finally acknowledged the fact of your fixation with me.

You still don't get it that it is not up to you to decide who is a christian and who isn't. Christians are called upon to assess claims of inclusion within the Body of Christ, and then by comparing the claim (and the claimant) against what Scripture presents. Do you remember Scripture? You know, that 'irksome' book that I've consistently pointed you to for validation of your views? It's been made painfully and abundantly clear, but your claim to being 'Christian' consistently failed the 'Bible' test. And what do we discover recently? Lo and behold, you've admitted that you're not a Christian, and further, that you don't believe in the Christian God! So I guess I was correct in my evaluation of you all along, eh? You are not god, or even his right hand man as much as you manage to convince the sheep that you are. Two things to ponder: (1) according to you, God doesn't exist so your point is ...? And, (2) the 'sheep' aren't as silly as you think, just the 'goats'.

Gobby? Pretty funny coming from you. Blab on all you want Ian, you are still an unmitigated asshole and my original assessment of you still stands. No doubt, so far as you're concerned. But as I have the measure of your capacity for presenting an unbiased perspective, coupled with a developed capacity for biblical judgment, I'm not worried in the slightest. When all is said and done one of us 'blabs' on in ways that helps people. The other, well, she simply likes the 'sound' of her own 'voice'.

Goose.

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I guess it just never occurs to some people that what is socially normative just doesn't appeal to some. Some people actually like the idea of thinking for themsleves, instead of playing the game this odd world foists upon us, or trusting those who "know".

Its always easier to be a puppet of whatever establishement you hitch your cart to than to think for oneself. Takes courage to stand against things that are wrong, even though they may be socially acceptable.
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Galien,

No, that excuse simply won't do. The lone 'square peg' isn't in a position to be blaming the 'round holes' for the peg's failure to mesh appropriately. I'd also suggest that your conflict has less to do with what is or is not 'socially normative', than it does a personal dislike for reality. Put simply God, the Created Order and eternity itself doesn't exist after the fashion that you'd prefer; consequently, all the denial that you can muster won't change things so that they suit your preferences.

Finally, instead of broadcasting 'blame' outwards all the time, you'd do well to look a little closer to home. They're your problems, not anyone elses.

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Galien,

No, that excuse simply won't do. The lone 'square peg' isn't in a position to be blaming the 'round holes' for the peg's failure to mesh appropriately. I'd also suggest that your conflict has less to do with what is or is not 'socially normative', than it does a personal dislike for reality. Put simply God, the Created Order and eternity itself doesn't exist after the fashion that you'd prefer; consequently, all the denial that you can muster won't change things so that they suit your preferences.

Finally, instead of broadcasting 'blame' outwards all the time, you'd do well to look a little closer to home. They're your problems, not anyone elses.

Goose.

Ian


No idea what you are on about. What problems? Never been happier :) World is full of square pegs, not my domain alone. And who are you to decide what is appropriate? I would suggest that reality bites you on the ass a lot more often than it bites me :) No one cares what you think Ian. You are simply......irrelevant.
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Galien,

No one cares what you think Ian. You are simply......irrelevant. Do you think? You don't believe your own press on this issue, Tracey, and I doubt that very many others would either.

Goose.

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Galien,

Tsk, tsk. You're nothing if not a 'class act', dearie. It seems obvious that you don't appreciate having your vacuous opinions disproven, and yet you continue to broadcast your views to an audience which simply doesn't care what you think. 

Given that you (1) don't 'value-add' in any way to the discussions that take place here; (2) that your 'op-ed' pieces aren't considered to be essential reading by anyone; and, (3) that your engagements are limited to feeding your altogether unhealthy fixation with me, I wonder that you even bother. So let me ask you again: who cares what you think, Tracey?

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Why would I give a shit who knows who I am Ian. Unlike you I have no need for the recognition and approval of others. Just k....................

 

“Charming”, to say the least.


Thanks, any time :)

Of course you know I never meant it to be a compliment. It is attitude like this that is the problem in today’s society. If one has a poor opinion of oneself, one is inclined to “lash” out at others and blame others because of their own short comings. Been there, done that, but it’s not all about ‘ME’ any longer. Get my drift?



As if I would expect anything other than derision from this site. It was not a bad thing when it was a place for people to come and vent their pain and confusion over revival. Subsequent experience with christians has shown me that abuse is not specific to revivalists. This has not been an ex revival forum for quite some time. This is now an orthodox christian factory.

I have no problem with my opinion of myself, suprising how much it has improved since I removed myself from the company of christians. Far from thinking it is all about me, or in fact about me at all, I despair for those who leave revival to be dragged into yet another belief system without even attempting to address the damage done to a person's soul by revival. Thomason is no better than any revival pastor, and those who cannot see that are just not paying attention. If you want to be dictated to by another little tin god, good for you,but it is unfair to those who have already been through enough pain with these revival monsters. Get my drift?

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Ian,

Me thinks it might be a case of 'sexual inhibition'.

Do you now? Trust me honey, I am definately getting more than you :)
Ha ha, I'm not going to go there with that one, enough trouble. But why does it not suprise me?

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Ian,

Me thinks it might be a case of 'sexual inhibition'.

Do you now? Trust me honey, I am definately getting more than you :)
Ha ha, I'm not going to go there with that one, enough trouble. But why does it not suprise me?



Oh I see. To start with the old boy's club decide I need a good seeing to. Then, upon declaring my satisfaction, I am a slut. You guys are precious.
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Tracey,

As if I would expect anything other than derision from this site. And neither should you, given that you're treated precisely as you treat others. What are you expecting? 'Special' treatment to be afforded to you because you're a 'special' person? It was not a bad thing when it was a place for people to come and vent their pain and confusion over revival. Subsequent experience with christians has shown me that abuse is not specific to revivalists. Ah, yes. All those 'horrible' believers. How dare they expect a self-professed 'Christian' to behave in a Christian manner! Well, I guess you really showed us, huh? This has not been an ex revival forum for quite some time. This is now an orthodox christian factory. Well, the latter is the solution to the former condition. People are still welcome to promote a-Christian or even anti-Christian alternatives, of course; they simply need to be able to marshall better arguments than the orthodox believers. Good luck with that.

I have no problem with my opinion of myself, suprising how much it has improved since I removed myself from the company of christians. Remove yourself from the 'mirror' and you don't have to face the 'image' that you see staring right back at you, eh? Perhaps, then, it's more the case that your 'self-opinion' improved at the point you stopped deluding yourself into thinking that you were Christian? From where I sit, nothing much has changed in you. You're still arrogant, ignorant, sour and vacuous. But I am glad, for your sake, that you feel so much 'happier', now. It can't have been easy living a lie these past 36-odd years. Far from thinking it is all about me, or in fact about me at all, I despair for those who leave revival to be dragged into yet another belief system without even attempting to address the damage done to a person's soul by revival. I see. The cure to a poor 'soul condition' isn't Jesus Christ then? I reckon I have considerably more theoretical and practical experience in helping people to redress the damage caused by Revivalism than have you, and your opinion of what's necessary simply doesn't fit the reality that I encounter on a regular basis. And whilst you claim to 'despair' for such people, what concrete action have you ever undertaken to change their circumstances? Thomason is no better than any revival pastor, and those who cannot see that are just not paying attention. Excepting, of course, that I'm (1) not a pastor, Revivalist or otherwise; (2) that I don't run a church, nor do I 'recruit' to any particular church 'brand'; (3) that I am very well trained in biblical and theological studies, and so I can readily distinguish between sound and unsound 'doctrine'; (4) that I do understand both orthodox Christian, and heretical Revivalist doctrines and practices, better than most; and, (5) that I do have a proven track record, over many years, for helping people to make sense of their Revivalist pasts so as to better fit them to live full and fulfilling lives. Now your opinions, by contrast, are based on what, exactly? If you want to be dictated to by another little tin god, good for you,but it is unfair to those who have already been through enough pain with these revival monsters. Get my drift? 'Yes', and 'drift' is the perfect word to describe your views.

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Tracey,

Ralph: Me thinks it might be a case of 'sexual inhibition'. Do you now? Trust me honey, I am definately getting more than you :) But of course. You've been rather forthright in sharing with us all, here, of your considerable sexual experiences gained through your previous employments. Your husband must be a very lucky man.

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Ian,

Me thinks it might be a case of 'sexual inhibition'.

Do you now? Trust me honey, I am definately getting more than you :)
Ha ha, I'm not going to go there with that one, enough trouble. But why does it not suprise me?



Oh I see. To start with the old boy's club decide I need a good seeing to. Then, upon declaring my satisfaction, I am a slut. You guys are precious.

Hey Tracey, my comments are a reaction to your unprecented and insultive remarks.

Fww, No one is accusing you as being a ‘slut’, howbeit YOU saw it as such. I wasn’t going down that path(i.e. about "getting more than you") as you would have said that I was boasting.



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Tracey,

Ralph: Me thinks it might be a case of 'sexual inhibition'. Do you now? Trust me honey, I am definately getting more than you :) But of course. You've been rather forthright in sharing with us all, here, of your considerable sexual experiences gained through your previous employments. Your husband must be a very lucky man.

Goose.

Ian

Hmm, five months as a prostitute as opposed to thirty years as an administrator. I guess I am just multitalented :) And he said to tell you that yes, he is a lucky man and not just in the bedroom :) I have no shame regarding anything I have done in my life. Well not anymore, anyway :)

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Ian,

Me thinks it might be a case of 'sexual inhibition'.

Do you now? Trust me honey, I am definately getting more than you :)
Ha ha, I'm not going to go there with that one, enough trouble. But why does it not suprise me?



Oh I see. To start with the old boy's club decide I need a good seeing to. Then, upon declaring my satisfaction, I am a slut. You guys are precious.

Hey Tracey, my comments are a reaction to your unprecented and insultive remarks.

Fww, No one is accusing you as being a ‘slut’, howbeit YOU saw it as such. I wasn’t going down that path(i.e. about "getting more than you") as you would have said that I was boasting.




I am assuming here that you mean unprecedented and insulting. My remarks here are hardly unprecedented and I am sorry if you find them insulting. They are a result of a small thing called the truth, but I know how hard you christians find it to actually identify the truth.
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Tracey,

I have no shame regarding anything I have done in my life. Hmmm. So what you're saying, in effect, is that you're happy being shameless.

Goose.

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Ian,

very funny.   

You have just 'committed a Galien', reading something into a comment that wasn't there!  smiley18  

Oh my, I just read what your Forum Rank says.......not madman....Oracle.   

Cheers,

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Can't we just delete Tracey's comments rather than reply to them? She is a banned forum pest, afterall.

I've spent enough time de-cluttering threads of her never-ending attacks.

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As opposed to addressing Ian's attacks. If there is a hell, there is a special place reserved for enablers :)
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Tracey,

I have no shame regarding anything I have done in my life. Hmmm. So what you're saying, in effect, is that you're happy being shameless.

Goose.

Ian


What I am saying Ian is that I am actually just happy, for the first time in 50 years of living. Distancing myself from christians has finally helped me to see exactly how the whole mechanism works, and why. Good therapy has shown me how to live life like arelatively normal human being rather than a blubbering mass of anxiety, depression and shame. There is a better way to live and I have found it. Funny thing about christianity is that even though one is meant to believe that god forgives us, other christians will remember every single thing we done and use it against them in their sanctioned gossip sessions, and bring it up with smug self satisfaction every time it is of use. Can't imagine jesus doing the same thing, but as I have discovered also the scriptures can be twisted, bent and stretched any and every which way to avoid personal responsibility and honesty in the life of anyone who wants to use them that way.

The biggest disappointment of my life was finally admitting to myself that even christians, the ones I expected to actually want to emulate christ and have a better standard of inner honesty than the rest, are in fact no different from all the rest. You are the one that helped me realise that. For all your study, all the things you think you know, you are just a silly little know all with a heart the size of a pea. Your kind of christianity is just like revival, just as cold, just as dead, just as dependent on people following the brain dead idiots up the front instead of thinking  for themselves. But, that is what people like because it is easy. Comes at no personal cost and no effort whatsoever. Step right up folks, say the sinner's prayer and you're in! I'm over it, I need deeper honesty than that and I am not going to find it in the church, which is the only place I though it was left in the world. I was wrong.
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Galien,

As opposed to addressing Ian's attacks. I'm one who helps people here, you, on the other hand, are naught but a hindrance to people who are seeking help. If there is a hell, there is a special place reserved for enablers 'If'? In any case, (1) I don't imagine that we'll be running into each other during eternity, if you get my 'drift'. And, (2) you didn't require any sort of 'enabling' given that you're just as arrogant, self-righteous and offensive towards others now, as you were the very first day that you showed up here. Your very life seems defined by your efforts to blame others for your poor decisions and behaviours.

What I am saying Ian is that I am actually just happy, for the first time in 50 years of living. Distancing myself from christians has finally helped me to see exactly how the whole mechanism works, and why. Good therapy has shown me how to live life like arelatively normal human being rather than a blubbering mass of anxiety, depression and shame. There is a better way to live and I have found it. Funny thing about christianity is that even though one is meant to believe that god forgives us, other christians will remember every single thing we done and use it against them in their sanctioned gossip sessions, and bring it up with smug self satisfaction every time it is of use. Can't imagine jesus doing the same thing, but as I have discovered also the scriptures can be twisted, bent and stretched any and every which way to avoid personal responsibility and honesty in the life of anyone who wants to use them that way. Well, you should know, being guilty as you are of every charge that you've just now tried laying at the feet of all those nameless, faceless Christians.

The biggest disappointment of my life was finally admitting to myself that even christians, the ones I expected to actually want to emulate christ and have a better standard of inner honesty than the rest, are in fact no different from all the rest. You are the one that helped me realise that. For all your study, all the things you think you know, you are just a silly little know all with a heart the size of a pea. Your kind of christianity is just like revival, just as cold, just as dead, just as dependent on people following the brain dead idiots up the front instead of thinking  for themselves. But, that is what people like because it is easy. Comes at no personal cost and no effort whatsoever. Step right up folks, say the sinner's prayer and you're in! I'm over it, I need deeper honesty than that and I am not going to find it in the church, which is the only place I though it was left in the world. I was wrong. And given these comments, you still are.

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Galien,

As opposed to addressing Ian's attacks. I'm one who helps people, you, on the other hand, are naught but a hindrance to people seeking help. If there is a hell, there is a special place reserved for enablers 'If'? In any case, (1) I don't imagine that we'll be running into each other during eternity, if you get my 'drift'. And, (2) you didn't require any sort of 'enabling' given that you're just as arrogant, self-righteous and offensive towards others now, as you were the very first day that you showed up here. Still trying to blame others for your poor decisions and behaviours, huh?

Nope, just trying to get them to address theirs. But we both know that will never happen :) The church is perfect. Oh damn I forgot. 

What I am saying Ian is that I am actually just happy, for the first time in 50 years of living. Distancing myself from christians has finally helped me to see exactly how the whole mechanism works, and why. Good therapy has shown me how to live life like arelatively normal human being rather than a blubbering mass of anxiety, depression and shame. There is a better way to live and I have found it. Funny thing about christianity is that even though one is meant to believe that god forgives us, other christians will remember every single thing we done and use it against them in their sanctioned gossip sessions, and bring it up with smug self satisfaction every time it is of use. Can't imagine jesus doing the same thing, but as I have discovered also the scriptures can be twisted, bent and stretched any and every which way to avoid personal responsibility and honesty in the life of anyone who wants to use them that way. Well, you should know, being guilty as you are of every charge that you've just now tried laying at the feet of all those nameless, faceless Christians. It's not you, oh no, it's clearly them.

That is not what I said. As an osessive introspector, and olympic champion of kicking the shit out of myself for everything whether I did it or not that is hardly likely to be the case. You really have no understanding of neurosis at all :) Truth is, it is all of us.

At the heart of it is the dishonesty of christians, every single one of you who stood there while a fellow christian was harrassed, villified, chastised, brutalised by the leaders of christian organisations. Where is the holy spirit supposedly given to you that should have been screaming "this is wrong". But no, covering the ass of the organisation has become more important than the individuals in it. Honesty, courage and dignity have been lost to holding up the status quo and fitting in with the group. The sad truth is that the hearts of many christians are stone, which is what they have to be to survive in any organisation. You stand back and watch while others have their souls brutalised, and you do nothing. You all have your little comments behind your hands and blame the victims for their rage, and their bitterness. You never notice that at least they can still feel, while you have lost the capacity to feel anything other than smug, and right.
 





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Helo Galien, I have been reading some of your posts and I realise that religion has caused much harm to you. Without sounding preachy I would like to refer you to a section of scripture that I believe most of the RCI and the like have miss applied or outright ignored in their interaction with their members.

Mat 6:9  After this manner therefore pray ye: OUR FATHER WHICH ART IN HEAVEN, HALLOWED BE THY NAME. Mat 6:10 THY KINGDOM COME. THY WILL BE DONE IN EARTH, AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.

Mat 6:11 GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD. Mat 6:12 AND FORGIVE US OUR DEBTS, AS
WE FORGIVE OUR DEBTORS.


The reason I cited these words is because the type of judgement that has been exercised in the name of God has actually been exercised in the name of men.

Forgiveness is below listed a requirement of living forever, no wonder then that Jesus told us to pray in this manner. Later in Matthew we see this concept expanded and explained.

Mat 18:21
Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, HOW OFT SHALL MY BROTHER SIN AGAINST ME, AND I FORGIVE HIM? till seven times? Mat 18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, UNTIL SEVENTY TIMES SEVEN.

Mat 18:23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. Mat 18:24 And when he had begun to reckon, ONE WAS BROUGHT UNTO HIM, WHICH OWED HIM TEN THOUSAND TALENTS. [~$10,000,000]

Mat 18:25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.

Mat 18:26 The servant therefore FELL DOWN, AND WORSHIPPED HIM, SAYING, LORD, HAVE PATIENCE WITH ME, AND I WILL PAY THEE ALL.

Mat 18:27 Then the lord of that servant WAS MOVED WITH COMPASSION, and loosed him, and FORGAVE HIM THE DEBT.

Mat 18:28 But THE SAME SERVANT WENT OUT, AND FOUND ONE OF HIS FELLOWSERVANTS, WHICH OWED HIM AN HUNDRED PENCE: [~$20] and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, PAY ME THAT THOU OWEST.


Note that the hurt inflicted by people is given a currency value.

Mat 18:29
And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, HAVE PATIENCE WITH ME, and I WILL PAY THEE ALL.

Mat 18:30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt. Mat 18:31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.

Mat 18:32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O THOU WICKED SERVANT, I FORGAVE THEE ALL THAT DEBT, BECAUSE THOU DESIREDST ME:

Mat 18:33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? Mat 18:34 And HIS LORD WAS WROTH, AND DELIVERED HIM TO THE TORMENTORS, TILL HE SHOULD PAY ALL THAT WAS DUE UNTO HIM.

Mat 18:35 SO LIKEWISE SHALL MY HEAVENLY FATHER DO ALSO UNTO YOU, IF YE FROM YOUR HEARTS FORGIVE NOT EVERY ONE HIS BROTHER THEIR TRESPASSES.

My point is this, many of you people who have been hurt and judged out of these places need to "FROM YOUR HEATS FORGIVE" Not for the sake of those who hurt you but for your own sakes.


Gal 6:7
BE NOT DECEIVED; GOD IS NOT MOCKED: FOR WHATSOEVER A MAN SOWS, THAT SHALL HE ALSO REAP.

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Tracey,

You've single handedly taken the 'black art' of blame-shifting to an entirely new level on this forum.

Goose.

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Jingles,

Let me guess, Tony Barton? (Edited update) Well?

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Good grief Jingles or Tony or whoever you, when are going to start to take the time to learn how to read your Bible properly ??? Your wresting of sacred text only further displays that you are totally exegetically incompetent when you quote any scripture you like willy nilly without reference to the context of the texts you copy and paste out and by doing such you just waste the time of everybody on this forum.

If you want to play religion then its time Tony or Jingles or whoever you are that you climbed off your little platform and go and find a nice little orthodox church somewhere and submit to good suitable pastoral counseling. It should not be hard for you to find a good little Presbyterian or Anglican church in your little neck of the woods in New South Wales and arrange an appointment with the local church offices. I am sure you will be well catered for.

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Good grief Jingles or Tony or whoever you, when are going to start to take the time to learn how to read your Bible properly ??? Your wresting of sacred text only further displays that you are totally exegetically incompetent when you quote any scripture you like willy nilly without reference to the context of the texts you copy and paste out and by doing such you just waste the time of everybody on this forum.

If you want to play religion then its time Tony or Jingles or whoever you are that you climbed off your little platform and go and find a nice little orthodox church somewhere and submit to good suitable pastoral counseling. It should not be hard for you to find a good little Presbyterian or Anglican church in your little neck of the woods in New South Wales and arrange an appointment with the local church offices. I am sure you will be well catered for.

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Eric you are such a sad Ian wannabe. Grow a pair and find your own identity.
    



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Helo Galien, I have been reading some of your posts and I realise that religion has caused much harm to you. Without sounding preachy I would like to refer you to a section of scripture that I believe most of the RCI and the like have miss applied or outright ignored in their interaction with their members.



Thanks for the heads up mate, and thank for actually being able to listen. It has been some time since I have mistaken the idiots that run churches for having anything to do with god at all, so I could care less about their judgements. As difficult as it has been, some of those I have come in contact with recently have had worse horror stories than me. I will bever cease to be shocked by the heartlessness of some christian organisations.

I don't have a problem forgiving, I have a problem with people who continue with their abusive behaviour. As we all know though, power corrupts, and they will never give it up.
 
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As an osessive [sic] introspector, and olympic champion of kicking the shit out of myself for everything whether I did it or not that is hardly likely to be the case

But such, as we both know, does not prevent someone from thinking they're right when they could well be wrong.

Anyway, if you think that the Xian worldview creates problems, just wait until another one really takes hold here ... for example atheism "red in truth or claw", or theisms where submission to leaders is *really* expected.

Makes no difference either way Talmid, there will always be a talking head with a muoth full of crap to feed us. I have had some contact with athiests recently and I find it to be just the same dogma, different wrapping. We are right, you are wrong blah blah blah. Nothing new there.
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Tracey,

Eric you are such a sad Ian wannabe. Grow a pair and find your own identity. Actually, Eric did 'grow a pair', which is why he's gone to the trouble of searching out the truth for himself. How about you, eh?

Goose.

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Eric,

Don't sweat it. Tracey's very much of the opinion that she has nothing to learn from anyone.

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Tracey,

Eric you are such a sad Ian wannabe. Grow a pair and find your own identity. Actually, Eric did 'grow a pair', which is why he's gone to the trouble of searching out the truth for himself. How about you, eh?

Goose.

Ian


Because finding the truth does not involve pointlessly loading up ones knapsack with degrees. Going by the way you treat people ian, it doesnt work too well :) You still can't even manage basic respect much less anything deeper. Anyone who has anything at all to teach me needs to be able to manage that at the very least.
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Good grief Jingles or Tony or whoever you, when are going to start to take the time to learn how to read your Bible properly ??? Your wresting of sacred text only further displays that you are totally exegetically incompetent when you quote any scripture you like willy nilly without reference to the context of the texts you copy and paste out and by doing such you just waste the time of everybody on this forum.

If you want to play religion then its time Tony or Jingles or whoever you are that you climbed off your little platform and go and find a nice little orthodox church somewhere and submit to good suitable pastoral counseling. It should not be hard for you to find a good little Presbyterian or Anglican church in your little neck of the woods in New South Wales and arrange an appointment with the local church offices. I am sure you will be well catered for.

Eric

 

I think Jingles/Tony would be closer to the mark with meaning of scripture if he was to preach the ‘Cotton Patch Gospel’

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Tracey,

Because finding the truth does not involve pointlessly loading up ones knapsack with degrees. No it doesn't. But finding the truth does require being open to having one's views shaped and corrected, something that you're simply not prepared to do. Going by the way you treat people ian, it doesnt work too well. Many would no doubt disagree. You still can't even manage basic respect much less anything deeper. I willingly respect those who are deserving of being respected, whether they agree with me or not. Anyone who has anything at all to teach me needs to be able to manage that at the very least. Funny that, as I've watched you completely disregard and dismiss people who fit your prescribed criteria. Consequently I simply don't find any of your claims, above, even remotely credible. You are, without a doubt, the most pig-headed individual this forum has seen; yet one who is also most desperately in need of the teaching that's provided here.

In conclusion, given that no-one seeks out your advice, and no-one seems to care too highly for your multiplied, uninformed opinions, exactly what do you hope to gain, here? Are you really that starved of attention?

Goose.

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Tracey,

Because finding the truth does not involve pointlessly loading up ones knapsack with degrees. No it doesn't. But finding the truth does require being open to having one's views shaped and corrected, something that you're simply not prepared to do.

And you are just the man for the job no doubt, seeing as how you have THE TRUTH, and nothing gets you quite as excited asd shaping and correcting the views of others does it Ian?


 Going by the way you treat people ian, it doesnt work too well. Many would no doubt disagree.

So? Unlike you ian I have no interest in who agrees or who doesn't. I don't assume that because a handful of people on a forum agree with me that I am some kind of oracle. I don't need social approval so i just don't care mate.

You still can't even manage basic respect much less anything deeper. I willingly respect those who are deserving of being respected, whether they agree with me or not.

Well that works both ways sunshine.

Anyone who has anything at all to teach me needs to be able to manage that at the very least. Funny that, as I've watched you completely disregard and dismiss people who fit your prescribed criteria. Consequently I simply don't find any of your claims, above, even remotely credible. You are, without a doubt, the most pig-headed individual this forum has seen; yet one who is also most desperately in need of the teaching that's provided here.

It's simple Ian, I'm over assholes. Honey you run rings around me as far as pig-headedness goes, come on now no need for modesty at this late stage. I don't want your teaching Ian, I am no longer interested in being part of an organisation that requires me to be an asshole to fit in. Ain't happening. I am tired of the christian club that is no different than any other organisation on the earth.

In conclusion, given that no-one seeks out your advice, and no-one seems to care too highly for your multiplied, uninformed opinions, exactly what do you hope to gain, here? Are you really that starved of attention?

Oh, I am unwanted, cast out. Give me a break, thats been done, there is really nothing left that any of you can hurt me with anymore :) Not starved of attention, I just wander in every now and then to see if anything has changed, not that I really believe it can. You are hardly going to give up your power here are you Ian. I know it intoxicates you so.

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Good grief Jingles or Tony or whoever you, when are going to start to take the time to learn how to read your Bible properly ??? Your wresting of sacred text only further displays that you are totally exegetically incompetent when you quote any scripture you like willy nilly without reference to the context of the texts you copy and paste out and by doing such you just waste the time of everybody on this forum.

If you want to play religion then its time Tony or Jingles or whoever you are that you climbed off your little platform and go and find a nice little orthodox church somewhere and submit to good suitable pastoral counseling. It should not be hard for you to find a good little Presbyterian or Anglican church in your little neck of the woods in New South Wales and arrange an appointment with the local church offices. I am sure you will be well catered for.

Eric

 

I think Jingles/Tony would be closer to the mark with meaning of scripture if he was to preach the ‘Cotton Patch Gospel’


I prefer "Brother Where art thou" Great flick!

BTW Please dont call me Jingles/Tony....I am not a gay hairdresser or a member of the mafia.

I find Tony seems to be the preferred name for such roles.

If you cant cope with Jingles you can call me Bro Brian.

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Tracey,

But finding the truth does require being open to having one's views shaped and corrected, something that you're simply not prepared to do. And you are just the man for the job no doubt, seeing as how you have THE TRUTH, and nothing gets you quite as excited asd shaping and correcting the views of others does it Ian? Indeed, and I consider it a gift. A principal difference between us is that grasping hold of truth was suffciently important to me that I was humble enough to have my views shaped and corrected by others. You, however, are not. You are far too arrogant to even acknowledge your errors when they're pointed out to you, and you are far too 'superior' to accept correction from those who do know better than you (hard as it is for you to accept, there do exist people who are your 'betters' in a range of fields).

Going by the way you treat people ian, it doesnt work too well. Many would no doubt disagree. So? Unlike you ian I have no interest in who agrees or who doesn't. I don't assume that because a handful of people on a forum agree with me that I am some kind of oracle. I don't need social approval so i just don't care mate. Well, I have no problem being 'the' oracle when it comes to all things 'Revival', and why should I? Next, I think you do care that you're something of a social outcast, and I think it does bother you being socially inept. You consistently present as lacking in the capacity to interact in socially normative, constructive, and acceptable ways; and to be brutally honest, I reckon you need the social outlet that this forum provides. I'm not wanting for friends or meaningful social interactions, but how about you?

You still can't even manage basic respect much less anything deeper. I willingly respect those who are deserving of being respected, whether they agree with me or not. Well that works both ways sunshine. But who has been seeking your respect, Tracey? I certainly haven't, and I can't think of a single poster who has. Respect, you see, has to be earned. You're very clearly bothered that I have earned the respect of a good many former Revivalists, and that consequently, people do seek me out for advice and support. The only thing that you've earned here, is some well-deserved scorn (have you never reflected on how closely your 'superior' attitude and arrogance, bred of ignorance, matches those of the very worst of offensive Revivalist pastors?).

Anyone who has anything at all to teach me needs to be able to manage that at the very least. Funny that, as I've watched you completely disregard and dismiss people who fit your prescribed criteria. Consequently I simply don't find any of your claims, above, even remotely credible. You are, without a doubt, the most pig-headed individual this forum has seen; yet one who is also most desperately in need of the teaching that's provided here. It's simple Ian, I'm over assholes. I see. So those who've sought to engage you after the fashion that, say, 'Shoes' has, are as*holes?! With an attitude like this, it's no wonder you're friendless. Honey you run rings around me as far as pig-headedness goes, come on now no need for modesty at this late stage. Unlike you I've actually been able to establish the correctness of my points-of-view. So when I defend an opinion, it's from a position of strength. Your practice, however, is to throw out a lame and uninformed personal opinion, and then stick your fingers in your ears when it's shot down. I don't want your teaching Ian, I am no longer interested in being part of an organisation that requires me to be an asshole to fit in. Whose teaching will you accept, Tracey? Is there anyone whom you will listen to? Of course, if being an as*hole was a 'membership' requirement of the Christian Church, then you'd be out of the pews and seated on a Bishop's throne in next to no time! I am tired of the christian club that is no different than any other organisation on the earth. Excepting for the fact that this 'club' will outlast every other organisation on earth, and and will continue into eternity. You'll never be a part of it, I fear, as you'll never bow your knee in obedience to the Club's President. His name is Jesus.

In conclusion, given that no-one seeks out your advice, and no-one seems to care too highly for your multiplied, uninformed opinions, exactly what do you hope to gain, here? Are you really that starved of attention? Oh, I am unwanted, cast out. Give me a break, thats been done, there is really nothing left that any of you can hurt me with anymore. Ever the martyr 'dodging' the barbs and arrows 'unjustly' slung your way, huh? All the churches, Christian organisations and individual believers who've eventually tired of your uncharitable ways were at fault, with you alone being blameless? I reckon the reality of things is somewhat different. And the only person who hurts you, Tracey, is you. Not starved of attention, I just wander in every now and then to see if anything has changed, not that I really believe it can. That being the case, feel free to 'wander out' anytime soon. You're a distraction and not an asset to this forum. You are hardly going to give up your power here are you Ian. I know it intoxicates you so. I had to smile at this last comment. My life is so clearly devoid of professional, academic and/or social accomplishments and satisfaction, that I just must derive my sense of worth, thereby defining my sense of identity, from this obscure contra-Revivalist web forum? That sounds just about as credible as every other claim that you've made here.

Goose.

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Tracey,

But finding the truth does require being open to having one's views shaped and corrected, something that you're simply not prepared to do. And you are just the man for the job no doubt, seeing as how you have THE TRUTH, and nothing gets you quite as excited asd shaping and correcting the views of others does it Ian? Indeed, and I consider it a gift. A principal difference between us is that grasping hold of truth was suffciently important to me that I was humble enough to have my views shaped and corrected by others. You, however, are not. You are far too arrogant to even acknowledge your errors when they're pointed out to you, and you are far too 'superior' to accept correction from those who do know better than you (hard as it is for you to accept, there do exist people who are your 'betters' in a range of fields).

Doubtless. But just because a person has more knowledge of something than another person that does not make them "better". Clearly though against biblical advice you enjoy being a respecter of persons. I guess it just floats your little boat to be better than others. Unlike yourself Ian I do not have a 1950's view of the world. Hopefully said view and all the nasty predjucies that go withit will be bred out in the next couple of generations.

Going by the way you treat people ian, it doesnt work too well. Many would no doubt disagree. So? Unlike you ian I have no interest in who agrees or who doesn't. I don't assume that because a handful of people on a forum agree with me that I am some kind of oracle. I don't need social approval so i just don't care mate. Well, I have no problem being 'the' oracle when it comes to all things 'Revival', and why should I? Next, I think you do care that you're something of a social outcast, and I think it does bother you being socially inept. You consistently present as lacking in the capacity to interact in socially normative, constructive, and acceptable ways; and to be brutally honest, I reckon you need the social outlet that this forum provides. I'm not wanting for friends or meaningful social interactions, but how about you?

I have no idea what you are on about. I have never had any difficulty making or keeping friends. I interact in the way I so choose Ian, because I refuse to play the game. And if I lob in here every couple of months of months or so how exactly does that make this forum a social outlet? It is more of a split between amusement at the Ian Thomason floor show, and despair for those leaving revival that get caught up in your web.

You still can't even manage basic respect much less anything deeper. I willingly respect those who are deserving of being respected, whether they agree with me or not. Well that works both ways sunshine. But who has been seeking your respect, Tracey? I certainly haven't, and I can't think of a single poster who has. Respect, you see, has to be earned. You're very clearly bothered that I have earned the respect of a good many former Revivalists, and that consequently, people do seek me out for advice and support. The only thing that you've earned here, is some well-deserved scorn (have you never reflected on how closely your 'superior' attitude and arrogance, bred of ignorance, matches those of the very worst of offensive Revivalist pastors?).


Has nothing to do with being superior, but everything to do with knowing who does and does not have my best interests at heart. I learned the hard way that the church is just another club. If people want your advice fine, but I don't know why anyone would want advice from anyone so far up themselves. Ian the people who come here were duped by revivalists so clearly they think they need someone other than themselves to tell them how it is. I don't. I can read and reason things for myself. How come you don't know that your attitude is exactily the same as revival pastors. Do you think having degrees under your belt makes you more credible when clearly one of your subjects was Scorn 101? I have no truck with anyone who calls themself a christian but needs to lord it over others.

Anyone who has anything at all to teach me needs to be able to manage that at the very least. Funny that, as I've watched you completely disregard and dismiss people who fit your prescribed criteria. Consequently I simply don't find any of your claims, above, even remotely credible. You are, without a doubt, the most pig-headed individual this forum has seen; yet one who is also most desperately in need of the teaching that's provided here. It's simple Ian, I'm over assholes. I see. So those who've sought to engage you after the fashion that, say, 'Shoes' has, are as*holes?! With an attitude like this, it's no wonder you're friendless.

Shoes is a very nice man, I just happened to disagree with him, and that is okay. You could take a page out of his book, he is a consummate gentleman. Gentle being the operative word.

Honey you run rings around me as far as pig-headedness goes, come on now no need for modesty at this late stage. Unlike you I've actually been able to establish the correctness of my points-of-view. So when I defend an opinion, it's from a position of strength. Your practice, however, is to throw out a lame and uninformed personal opinion, and then stick your fingers in your ears when it's shot down.

You know it is funny how much you remind me of athiests. They think they are strong too. You argue in exactly the same way. Your position of strength in is your mind Ian. To me there is no strength in what you say because you continue to be a prick to people who disagree with you. You can talk the talk but clearly the walk is a problem for you, as it seems to be for anyone who is corrupted by power and far too enamoured of their own "position of strength".

 I don't want your teaching Ian, I am no longer interested in being part of an organisation that requires me to be an asshole to fit in. Whose teaching will you accept, Tracey? Is there anyone whom you will listen to? Of course, if being an as*hole was a 'membership' requirement of the Christian Church, then you'd be out of the pews and seated on a Bishop's throne in next to no time!

No christians that's for damn sure. I listen to lots of people, just not the ones that throw their weight around. Needing to control other people is a pathology of sorts Ian. Deal with it.

I am tired of the christian club that is no different than any other organisation on the earth. Excepting for the fact that this 'club' will outlast every other organisation on earth, and and will continue into eternity. You'll never be a part of it, I fear, as you'll never bow your knee in obedience to the Club's President. His name is Jesus.

If Jesus appeared in front of me I would be the first person on my face. When it comes to the sociopaths like yourself who think they are here to fill his job orders, forget it. And if he does exist and does come back, I would not want to be standing to close to those who have turned his church into a circus and brought his name to shame.

In conclusion, given that no-one seeks out your advice, and no-one seems to care too highly for your multiplied, uninformed opinions, exactly what do you hope to gain, here? Are you really that starved of attention? Oh, I am unwanted, cast out. Give me a break, thats been done, there is really nothing left that any of you can hurt me with anymore. Ever the martyr 'dodging' the barbs and arrows 'unjustly' slung your way, huh? All the churches, Christian organisations and individual believers who've eventually tired of your uncharitable ways were at fault, with you alone being blameless? I reckon the reality of things is somewhat different. And the only person who hurts you, Tracey, is you.

No martyr in me mate. Got a list of all the charitable things I have done for people during my time on the earth to compare to the one or two stupid things I have done Ian? I'm sure everyone would be interested to see that. Your perception of who I am Ian has no basis in reality whatsoever.

ot starved of attention, I just wander in every now and then to see if anything has changed, not that I really believe it can. That being the case, feel free to 'wander out' anytime soon. You're a distraction and not an asset to this forum.

Love you too Ian

You are hardly going to give up your power here are you Ian. I know it intoxicates you so. I had to smile at this last comment. My life is so clearly devoid of professional, academic and/or social accomplishments and satisfaction, that I just must derive my sense of worth, thereby defining my sense of identity, from this obscure contra-Revivalist web forum? That sounds just about as credible as every other claim that you've made here.

Yeah yeah yeah your life is so full of accomplishments Ian, so busy trying to show the world how worthy you are of our worship and respect. You are the master. Of blowing your own horn and that is about it. You still dont get it Ian. HUMILITY. You seem to think it is some kind of an option for a christian.


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Hi, Jingles.

I've just done a little checking using my Moderator tools, and I have a question for you. Could you please explain for me why your ISP matches that of an anonymous poster who once boldly (and proudly) claimed to being a member of Revivalist Oversight? You denied being a Revivalist quite recently, if my memory serves me correctly.

Intrigued.

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Hi, Jingles.

I've just done a little checking using my Moderator tools, and I have a question for you. Could you please explain for me why your ISP matches that of an anonymous poster who once boldly (and proudly) claimed to being a member of Revivalist Oversight? You denied being a Revivalist quite recently, if my memory serves me correctly.

Intrigued.

Ian


Seeing that I have never been a Revivalist (Big R) 'Oversight' then this surprises me as much as you.

Sorry that I can't be of more assistance to you Didaktikon. :)

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Hi, Jingles.

I've just done a little checking using my Moderator tools, 

Ian


Have I missed a change of Moderator?      smiley18


Are you now Modbod Ian???

Cheers,

Glad


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Hi, Glad.

'A' moderator, not 'the' Moderator.

Blessings,

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