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tommo
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Re:The Revival Franchise
(Date Posted:12/08/2009 23:51:58)
Groagan
Pretty hard for someone not in tune with sts, thou's and therefore's to understand what you are getting at. I haven't had to endure Dickensian English for years now, care to make your point a bit clearer.
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RE:The Revival Franchise
(Date Posted:12/08/2009 23:55:22)
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tommo
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Re:The Revival Franchise
(Date Posted:13/08/2009 00:08:04)
Ahhh, got it.
I agree, work out 10% of average national salary and multiply it by the number of regular members and you've got yourself a nice little earner. The more people with lots of money, the more the top dog's make... the fly in the ointment is that people who make lots of money are often above average intelligence and don't get sucked into cults like revival. Never-the-less, the Longfield clan live fairly high on the hog
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RE:The Revival Franchise
(Date Posted:13/08/2009 00:42:49)
I agree, work out 10% of average national salary and multiply it by the number of regular members and you've got yourself a nice little earner. The more people with lots of money, the more the top dog's make... the fly in the ointment is that people who make lots of money are often above average intelligence and don't get sucked into cults like revival. Never-the-less, the Longfield clan live fairly high on the hog And then you have the shiny happy apparently intelligent and very well cashed up types that worship at the Hillsong altar and throw their money into the pot because they believe that what they sow into the kingdom of god will be multiplied ten times. Vomit. 
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I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day. So there.
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RE:The Revival Franchise
(Date Posted:13/08/2009 03:47:11)
The fact is that Churches do need money to operate, (and so do cults like the GRC) the issue isn't whether giving or tithing is Biblical (the Old Testament v New Testament debate) ... the issue is how they go about getting it ... there are many rip-offs around ... there are many using emotional bribary or blackmail to get money ... there are many people giving just to recieve ... HOWEVER there are also many good honest Churches around ... that use the money they recieve wisely ... for the good of other people ... paying their pastors a fair wage ... and many people giving for the right motives ... in conclusion I would like to say to be careful not to sterio-type all Churches and all people who give or tithe, but instead look at the motives ... just as Jesus said, "you'll know them by their fruit" 
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"You need to do what your heart knows is right"
So I did, and quit the GRC that same night.
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Groagan
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Re:The Revival Franchise
(Date Posted:13/08/2009 04:19:50)
At one mid week meeting(assembly folk only) thomas addison had a white board and proceeded to show the difference between this years and last years offerings and estimates of incoming tithes according to the current average weekly wage.We were told that if the tithe didnt increase he would sell the hall(which the assembly folk built and paid for) and land.Also he would have to go out and work.If I remember correctly his wife was working at the time. He always quoted Malachi 3vs 8, always a wee bit of condemnation thrown in.I understand bills have to be met, but have you seen his house? He once told me that if he had stayed in Geelong working at Fords he would have been a millionare.Whats the chorus? Im richer than a millionare just because HE (the Lord)cares.
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Re:The Revival Franchise
(Date Posted:13/08/2009 07:46:03)
Reply to Groagan Rather than re-writing out the story of how Daddy Addy got his start to his fortune, I thought for the sake of ease, I would simply dig up an old post taken from the Topic .... "Addison Mansion" . Also Groagan, you say he would sell the Hall? Well he owns it so he would be a wealthy man like Noddy Noel ! They both have converted the Premisses-Hall and Land into their own personal names - it is theirs , NOT YOURS anymore ! How they can legally do it I don't know but it certainly is not ethically or morally christian. ***************************************** (Date Posted:23/04/2006 07:54:15) To what ever.... I know T.A worked as a engineer before he left, and was very high up the ladder at Fords, and was on very good money.
To say he made all his money from the Church is simply not true, if you ask me, but hey, then again who gives a rats ass!
The guy is a over abusive pastor! Big time! Let that be the focus. ................................................................................ I know Daddy Addy's old house of which you refer to when he lived in Geelong / Lara - very, very well. It was just an average modest 3 bedroom home of no special significance , infact , you wouldn't write home to mother about it ! - she lived next door anyway ! Then when he sold it , I bet he didn't tell the new owners that it had been baptized several times - Flooded ! ( it was very obedient to the call of baptism ). So it must be truely "blessed " although it wasn't .... " fully immersed " , but try 3 feet deep through-out the house. So it was a " buyer - beware " sale . A lot of hard work was done to clean-up the mud and slush out of the house that came from the smelly, swampy, mosquito - ridden, snake infested creek just over his back fence....... Position - position !!! ..... Location - location !!!! wow - what a house ! Now , talking about " position ". Daddy Addy's job at Fords was as a Fitter & Turner, ( something that he became very good at - he Turned & Fitted / screwed many souls after that ! ). So he did get his hands dirty ...( honest grease ) but he did not need a truck to carry home his pay slip. I personly know Daddy Addy's pay was not much because I know his Boss, who was a " few rungs above " him , who was only on an average wage! ??? So the Lara " Humpy " was sold in Aug. 1975......and after approx. 10 owners later and a lot of money spent on it in the meantime, it was sold yet again in Dec.1986 for just over $60,000. So it's easy to see that the " Adelaide Embassy " was not paid for out of the proceeds from his job at Fords nor from his Lara Humpy . That leaves it to his deceased father's ill-gotten Insurance payout ( pot -of -gold  which he took ( this time on a big truck ) to Adelaide - " The City of Churches " - plus one , the AALC ? Don't get to confused here, there is a lot of time between his arrivival , 1975 - to the present day - the Daddy Addy Embassy on the hill , which is obviously derived from OPM ( other peoples money ) ....sorry - " tithes ", as he has not worked for years? or has he done it through some form of shrewd business dealings? If that is so , when did he find the time to " minister " to the flock ? Again , " If money is the root of all evil , then why do churches want so much ? " Now ........... Come-On ? --------------------------------------------------------------
" Those are my principles and if you don"t like them, I do have others"
Come-On !
always tell the truth
motmot
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ladeedaa
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Re:The Revival Franchise
(Date Posted:24/08/2009 01:27:40)
With regard to transferal of goods / property, there are ways and means that are available to managers, CEOs, directors, etc etc. It is easy to be a part of a comapny or business and have no financial obligations connecyed to you, and vice versa. there are also trusts, business acounts, comittees....the list is almost endless, and always only one person profiting
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ladeedaa
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Re:The Revival Franchise
(Date Posted:24/08/2009 02:03:24)
Ill try to get this right....if you are a director or some simliar role, and it seems to be the companys best interest to have the property etc transfered to your name, it can be done on a temp basis. (no one follows this up ) That way, if someone sues the company, the goods are untouched as they are not company goods, but yrs. It works the other way too, you can transfer all your money, property etc into a company, and live off the proceeeds without having to declare it, pay tax and stuff. A tax person would know more about it, i only know how hard it is to get money out of some people!
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