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(Date Posted:26/10/2007 15:30:44)
Reply to : For Zions Sake
Just a word of caution: if you intend 'speaking in tongues until the cows come home' in church, then you'd better hope(and pray) that there is an interpreter present. Otherwise you'll be biblically, morally and ethically 'out of order', and as guilty of hubris as were the gormless Corinthians that Paul corrected Ian
Didaktikon...are you serious??? Do you mean that everytime everyone in the GRC prays in tongues while they open in prayer, take prayer requests, bless the word, take communion, exercise the gifts, pray in the prayer line, close in prayer, have a prayer time between meetings on Sunday, have a prayer time at the end of meetings on Wednesday and Saturday, dedicate a baby, pray all day, for several days at a fast.....and so on.....they are 'biblically, morally and ethically out of order'???????
I for one believe Didaktikon is correct in this statement. Not only in the GRC but all who display this nonsense.
Have you researched this issue yourself? I think I have read everything that is available on the matter and this is the only conclusion I can come to, albeit my initial experience with "receiving" tongues was somewhat questionable.
brolga
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Didaktikon
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(Date Posted:27/10/2007 11:22:48)
Reply to : For Zions Sake
Hi Zion,
Didaktikon...are you serious???
Very much so.
Do you mean that everytime everyone in the GRC prays in tongues while they open in prayer, take prayer requests, bless the word, take communion, exercise the gifts, pray in the prayer line, close in prayer, have a prayer time between meetings on Sunday, have a prayer time at the end of meetings on Wednesday and Saturday, dedicate a baby, pray all day, for several days at a fast.....and so on.....they are 'biblically, morally and ethically out of order'???????
According to Paul's very clear, very precise direction to the Corinthians, should a person pray publicly in 'tongues', then it must be interpreted. Paul nowhere provides any exceptions to this 'rule' (e.g.your: open in prayer, take prayer requests, bless the word, take communion, exercise the gifts, pray in the prayer line, close in prayer, have a prayer time between meetings on Sunday, have a prayer time at the end of meetings on Wednesday and Saturday, dedicate a baby, pray all day, for several days at a fast.....and so on.....). Public 'tongues' ALWAYS requires public 'interpretation'.
Blessings,
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(Date Posted:27/10/2007 12:18:02)
Reply to : brolga
Hi Brolga
I for one believe Didaktikon is correct in this statement. Not only in the GRC but all who practice this nonsense.
I know, I know...just thought I was over the shock of having my 'eyes opened'...looks like the fun has just begun.
Have you researched this issue yourself? I think I have read everything that is available on the matter and this is the only conclusion I can come to,...
No, I haven't done any research yet...any suggestions?
...albeit my initial experience with "receiving" tongues was somewhat questionable.
Well, my initial experience was not questionable at all...I think???
Reply to : Didaktikon
Thanks Didaktikon (strange...it's very difficult to type fast in Greek!!..)
According to Paul's very clear, very precise direction to the Corinthians, should a person pray publicly in 'tongues', then it must be interpreted. Paul nowhere provides any exceptions to this 'rule' (e.g.your: open in prayer, take prayer requests, bless the word, take communion, exercise the gifts, pray in the prayer line, close in prayer, have a prayer time between meetings on Sunday, have a prayer time at the end of meetings on Wednesday and Saturday, dedicate a baby, pray all day, for several days at a fast.....and so on.....). Public 'tongues' ALWAYS requires public 'interpretation'.
It just surprises me, and disappoints me, how easy it is to make such a dreadful error. I have read those scriptures many times and it made sense the 'old' way. I know I was 'guided' in my understanding, but in the beginning, I looked to prove them wrong and never saw it the correct way. Other than learning Greek, I guess I had no hope...
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brolga
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(Date Posted:27/10/2007 13:46:23)
Reply to : For Zions Sake
Have you researched this issue yourself? I think I have read everything that is available on the matter and this is the only conclusion I can come to,...
No, I haven't done any research yet...any suggestions?
I could always see the tongues that the Apostles experienced on the day of Pentecost was not the same as what the Corinthians were practicing. I was told I had received the Holy Spirit because I spoke in tongues. This didn't do any thing for my belief as I used to mimic Chinese language as a kid, and did the same when I was 'seeking' and on hearing me,Noel said I had received.
The essays in "Pease Consider" put me on the path of understanding what tongues really meant. Make this a start, Google and read what others have said about tongues, keeping an open mind of course. Once you get an understanding of what it is to really receive the Holy Spirit, you will find, tongues play little part in salvation and your walk.
brolga
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RE:Speaking in tongues without an interpreter
(Date Posted:01/10/2008 19:56:23)
Ian,
An issue came to light again this morning when my RF friend mentioned he was going to spend half a day praying in the Spirit (speaking in tongues)
Being well armed due to Please Consider and etc., I made the situation quite clear it is not what praying in the Spirit means.
A bit of feedback through the essays confirmed I was correct in the discussion this morning, but I find a couple of answers still elusive to this question;
We know that Paul, in the church (publicly) spoke in tongues and made it clear, "no interpreter- no tongues - let speak to himself - etc", then can we come to a definite conclusion that one can use tongues in private prayer to any avail or is it wrong.?
Ralph
(Message edited by brolga On 01/10/2008 19:57:16)
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