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Well said Ian,

I could hazard a guess that if Martin Luther saw what was going on the "Christian merchandise" arena of AD 2009, he would turn in his grave..

blessings

Eric

23/11/2009 20:35:51

Didaktikon

Hi, Eric.

The reason that I don't (and won't) use Word is a mix of ethical, moral and practical considerations.

Ethically, as you pointed out, Word majors in the Pente-esque "Jesus Junk". One can buy any and every form of product marketing heterodox nonsense, but as their glossy catalogues conclusively demonstrate, remarkably little in the way of solid, biblically-informed material. For example, at our local Word store, there is half of one case set aside for "academic" materials (which for Word invariably means entry-level Bible dictionaries and one volume commentaries, etc). However, there are four cases set aside for "Spirit-Filled" materials: Hagin, Meyer, Hinn, Houston, etc.

Morally, it troubles me that Word claims to being "not-for-profit", a claim which I very seriously doubt. Their prices are incredibly inflated in comparison to the other providers (which is indicative of a serious profit margin being generated), but no Word bookstore manager could tell me what charities or causes, whether Christian or otherwise, benefits from the wealth. There's also the fact that Word point-blank refuses to promote, or allow their stores to promote, anything that doesn't have their "brand" prominently displayed.

From a strictly practical sense, I'm not even remotely interested in "WWJD" wristbands, or Smiley-faced Jesus hacky-sacks

The material that I require isn't the material that the average Word Bookstore customer is particularly interested in.

Blessings,

Ian

23/11/2009 20:04:46

brolga

Ian, Eric,

My first purchase at Word (local bookshop) cost me $140.00 plus for The RSB. I aguired exactly the same bible from Amazon for a friend for $49.80 au including shipping costs. Quite a difference.
Also I notice Word caters for all types of religion, even scientology DVDs

best to avoid.

Ralph

23/11/2009 18:39:46

Metanoian

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Reply to Didaktikon

Hi, Eric.

A good friend of mine owns a local Christian bookshop, so I try to put as much custom through him as a I can. My backups are either Koorong or the Ridley College bookshop. The one bookshop that I'll never use, under any circumstances, is Word.

Blessings,

Ian

Chaire Ian

I use Koorong a lot for backup because a friend of mine ( a very personal close friend who has earned a BTh Hons 1 ) is the store manager at Koorong's new Springwood store and conveniently is only 10 - 15 minutes drive down the motoway.

But if you don't mind me asking you publicly, why not Word ??. Admittedly they are not really focused for the theological academic market and lot of their merchandise is mostly the "Joyce Meyer" triumphalism type quick sell and other peripheral nonsense. But Koorong does leaves Word for dead when it comes to service and their range of triumphalism merchandise is minimal in comparison to Word. Plus an added bonus is the nice coffee shop at Springwood where you can sit down and chat over a cuppachino and cake.

blessings

Eric

23/11/2009 18:29:46

Didaktikon

Hi, Eric.

A good friend of mine owns a local Christian bookshop, so I try to put as much custom through him as a I can. My backups are either Koorong or the Ridley College bookshop. The one bookshop that I'll never use, under any circumstances, is Word.

Blessings,

Ian

23/11/2009 17:28:04

Metanoian

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Reply to Didaktikon

Good morning, Eric.

I guess you've had better luck with "biblioz" than I have; my experience of them has been less than satisfactory.

Blessings,

Ian

Chaire Ianos kletos didaktikos,

Not if you want something in a hurry. In that case moorebooks in Sydney is the best and often only choice when one gets stuck within a time frame of a semester....

charis soi

Eric

23/11/2009 16:54:54

Didaktikon

Good morning, Eric.

I guess you've had better luck with "biblioz" than I have; my experience of them has been less than satisfactory.

Blessings,

Ian

23/11/2009 15:29:46

Metanoian

Reply to brolga

Thanks guys,
Wow, how cool is that? Cool

Must have a good angel watching over me, hey?

Charis soi ...

..

23/11/2009 00:41:17

brolga

Thanks guys,
Wow, how cool is that? Cool

Must have a good angel watching over me, hey?

22/11/2009 04:04:01

Didaktikon

Hi, Ralph.

Well, if you went and ordered Bob Mounce's NICNT volume on Revelation then you've done well! It's the volume that I recommend to non-Greek capable Christians, as being the "best" general purpose commentary on the Apocalypse currently in print.

Blessings,

Ian

22/11/2009 03:14:53

brolga

Eric,

Tell you what Ralph !! It is frustrating submitting to a lecturer who hasn't got a handle at all on some Greek... in such events, I simply bite my tongue. My last lecturer didn't have the Greek fonting to be able to read my exegesis.

And if Ian were to say that 98% of Pente leaders don't have a handle on Greek at all, I would have to admit he is pretty right. Listening to some of them on the telly and in their church services playing at being clever at quoting a Greek word without any understanding of its role as a noun or verb with its grammatical implication does annoy a wee bit.
It was displayed in Revivalist groups also.

Even with the very small amount of understanding of Greek I now possess, does make one sit up and take notice when it is used by the “now-alls”

By the way check your shipping docket. Maybe you have been blessed by God with a freebie

Not a freebie, but very inexpensive, being hard cover and all. $10.

Ralph

22/11/2009 01:41:59

Metanoian

Reply to brolga

Eric,
Ha, you had me going there for minute until I saw your PS. I previously did have a look at a preview of it, didn't purchase it as yet.

Ian,
thanks, yes might be able to get handle on it someday, 'round about 100 years from now.lol.

I have received the books Walton's, "Lost world of Genesis One"; Koister's, "Revelation and the End of All Things"

For some strange reason also in the package from Amazon was "The Book of Revelation Revised" by Robert H. Mounce.(NI Commentry on the NT) I don't ever recall ordering that book but could have accidently put it in the cart at sometime.

Tell you what Ralph !! It is frustrating submitting to a lecturer who hasn't got a handle at all on some Greek... in such events, I simply bite my tongue. My last lecturer didn't have the Greek fonting to be able to read my exegesis.

And if Ian were to say that 98% of Pente leaders don't have a handle on Greek at all, I would have to admit he is pretty right. Listening to some of them on the telly and in their church services playing at being clever at quoting a Greek word without any understanding of its role as a noun or verb with its grammatical implication does annoy a wee bit.

By the way check your shipping docket. Maybe you have been blessed by God with a freebie

Eric

22/11/2009 00:56:48

brolga

22/11/2009 00:34:45

Didaktikon

Hi, Ralph.

Beale's commentary is very good, but it's well beyond the scope of most untrained Christians. It requires a fairly comprehensive skill set to understand (not the least of which is a developed capacity in Greek).

Blessings,

Ian

21/11/2009 22:58:30

Metanoian