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Title: Inner Conviction
  
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brolga
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(Date Posted:10/06/2008 04:30:27)

I have been using the term 'inner conviction' a lot lately. Thinking about what that really means, I asked 'google' and this is one came up;
 

Conscience is an inner conviction that something is right or wrong, and in ethical debate people sometimes ask whether they should obey moral rules, or whether they should rather obey their conscience. But conscience itself is a strange phenomenon. Clearly, it is not the result of a logical argument, and in some ways it is more like an emotion. A person's conscience may be troubled even if they have tried to follow ethical guidelines, or have fulfilled the expectations of other people or society.

In a religious discussion, conscience may be thought of as a "voice of God," speaking within the individual. If so, then it is a personal and internalized version of "natural law", relating moral choice to fundamental features of the world, or in religious terms as God's creation.

In a secular discussion, conscience is likely to be seen as the natural sensitivity to ethical issues, perhaps even as an unconscious way in which people apply moral principles to the particular situations they face. It is also possible to argue that there is a biological basis for conscience; in other words, that we are genetically programmed by emotions that promote the survival of our tribe or species.

The difficulty with both religious and secular approaches is the conscience, simply because it is experienced rather than being the result of a logic process, is not open to debate or rational challenge. It is unlikely to be argued into or out of having a conscience about something. Hence, conscience seems to have its own authority, and as such it cut across other ethical principles and arguments. (Xanda)

brolga

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Who said it could not be done? And tell me what great victories does he have to his credit which qualifies him to judge others accurately?

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RE:Inner Conviction
(Date Posted:10/06/2008 06:25:59)

(Conscience is an inner conviction that something is right or wrong)

Hi Brolga,

This is a really good topic.  I like the title and content of your post.   Haven't time at the moment to go into a lot of detail but will later - hopefully.  Have volunteered to help my daughter, who is a HS teacher, with a school concert.

Moth said on Chat Box "As a christian, do you still have to repent"    As a christian, if I have willfully sinned, and this is where my conscience comes in, I most certainly feel the need to repent.  It isn't just a once only thing as I was led to believe in my RCI/RF days.  I believe that there should be sorrow and confession to God for what I have done wrong. Sin if not dealt with affects our relationship with God, his Son and grieves the Holy Spirit.  

If a child deliberately disobeys a parent/s, even though the child is loved by the parents beyond all measure, wouldn't the parents expect the child to truthfully confess, be sorry and give an assurance that the deed will not be done again.  I know I expected this of my children, for their sake as well as mine as a caring parent, to ensure that they grew up to be good, honest citizens.  God is my father and loves me and cares about my future and I, the child, come to him in sorrow when I have transgressed.  If I were to get away with all my wrong doings my conscience would become conditioned and I wouldn't even think twice about it after a while.

We have God's laws in our hearts and Jesus is our example and teacher and the Holy Spirit leads and guides us and shows us the way to go.   John 16:8 "When he (the Holy Spirit) comes, he will convict the world of guilt, in regard to sin and righteousness and judgement......."

God Bless

Epi
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RE:Inner Conviction
(Date Posted:10/06/2008 07:02:35)

Hi Epi
All good what you say.

The difficulty with both religious and secular approaches is the conscience, simply because it is experienced rather than being the result of a logic process, is not open to debate or rational challenge.

fww, Talmid, in the introductions etc thread, reply to Luke 7:35, mentioned the word 'hermenuetics' This (above) is what it means in action.
Correct interpretation of scripture can only come from reading and 'listening' to what the written message is showing and we do not have our own pre-conceived ideas and experiences influence what has already a meaning to what the author intended. 

brolga.

(Message edited by brolga On 10/06/2008 07:05:48)

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RE:Inner Conviction
(Date Posted:10/06/2008 09:15:12)

Hi again Brolga,

Well that's a difficult one.  All the best on it.

Epi    
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RE:Inner Conviction
(Date Posted:10/06/2008 09:54:48)

Oh sorry about that Epi,

Just re-read what I had written and it does sound a little 'academic'. Bit of what I am having difficulty in grasping in my studies. Something starting to sink in. ha.

It must be concert time of the year. The school my son attends and where I do a bit of maintenance, has had me running about organizing props. It is a lot of work for everyone, but the kids love it.

As regarding repenting, it is a continual event and that is how we get so many rewards, spiritually I mean. Peace, love, joy, assurance, etc,.

Because of human fraility we always fall short of the mark. But we have a loving God of mercy.

talk to you again soon.

brolga

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RE:Inner Conviction
(Date Posted:11/06/2008 21:44:15)

Hi Brolga,

Would like to hear more of your findings on this subject.

God bless.

Epi 
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RE:Inner Conviction
(Date Posted:12/06/2008 10:20:02)