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stalwort
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(Date Posted:05/05/2009 07:46:28)

To all and sundry who particularly have bared their souls on this site. Don't bother.

Why would you want to seek companionship or instruction from those who seek your destruction, to ridicule your beliefs in order to engratiate their lofty egos.

Ian, you really are a basket case. Brolga, not far behind...I fear you are his disciple.

I believe this site was set up wholly to satisfy your ego, who lets face it, though eminantly qualified in theological circles (notice how many times you use the word theology ) never hesitate to remind us of your "qualifications" and "oh yes, sit on a faculty of theology". Very, very impressive.

Trouble is, once all is said.......now I could be wrong, you don't through your discourses display a great deal of substance or wisdom, at least not evident yet from what I have read.

One who uses the word 'naive' so regularly to persons in a forum such as this can really only belive that he himself has no shadow of turning and is well able to instruct those poor wretches on the way of true salvation. It also betrays a certain wolfishness, if really intersted in the 'work' of Christ, repent and take a different tack from where you have been.  

In some sick way, your theological pomp aligns you with those who recite long prayers and widen the hem of their garments to get the approval of their peers. Get real.

Theology is great to argue for those opposed to God and Christ or for the purpose of persuding those who seek God, but don't stand in the gate of heaven and stop those that want to go in. This is what I mean by the simplicity of the gospel, only to know Christ and Him Crucified, no amount of words you have to say can make too much difference, it is God who came down to man, not visa versa.

Apart from that, I wish all well, especially fish and chips.

Goodbye

Stalwort (Jim to my friends....don't have many...I wonder why?)


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Re:Dear theologian
(Date Posted:05/05/2009 17:11:02)

 Stalwort,

It has been my experience on this site that what Ian has been saying here marries up to what my Anglican clergy say also.  It seems that the only comments that do not marry up to biblical standards are from the ones that are untrained in theology. 
The display of bitterness towards Ian in your post here is not what I would expect from a professing christian. 

Maybe it is you who is wrong.

Please re-consider orthodox christianity.

Regards Mr Kilometres.

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Re:Dear theologian
(Date Posted:05/05/2009 17:24:24)

Hi Stalwort

I left RF, after over 30 years, a disillusioned and fearful person. In a matter of months, thanks to a no nonsense approach from Ian and others here, I have found my way. I did bare my soul and I was met with kindness and PRACTICAL HELP.

Reconsider Please Consider and listen to some solid sermons on line, if need be.

I wish you well, too.

Chips

 

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Re:Dear theologian
(Date Posted:05/05/2009 17:57:29)

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RE:Dear theologian
(Date Posted:05/05/2009 18:17:59)

Jim,

Mate, I reckon you're just a bit shell-shocked.  Many of us have been by Ian's direct and unswerving manner.

Forget the personality.  If you're inclined to being christian, look at what he says, rather than worrying about how he says it.  Jesus also was pretty well known for his 'hard sayings'.  Don't let a bit of personality get in the way.

Myself,  I find much of christianity unpalatable, but I would say that Ian has represented christianity much more faithfully than any others I've encountered.  Almost makes me want to be a christian.  Almost.

Dogmafree

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Reply To stalwort
(Date Posted:05/05/2009 18:26:34)

Good morning, Jim.

What's this? Your 'cut-and-run'?

Ian, you really are a basket case. Brolga, not far behind...I fear you are his disciple.

Really? A 'basket-case', huh? Okay, but I would hazard to guess that it might be pride that fuels your apparent bitterness more so than pastoral concern, and that it is pride which prevents you from accepting the correction that you so evidently require.

I believe this site was set up wholly to satisfy your ego, who lets face it, though eminantly qualified in theological circles (notice how many times you use the word theology ) never hesitate to remind us of your "qualifications" and "oh yes, sit on a faculty of theology". Very, very impressive.

And in expressing such beliefs, you simply continue to reinforce, by consistent display, your ignorance. This site was actually established by a non-Christian fellow, one who could hardly be considered a 'friend' of mine! Now and with respect to my using the word 'theology' as I do, well ... why shouldn't I use it? After all, 'theology' is a perfectly good and serviceable word, one which well describes the subject matter about which I engage. If you'd prefer, we could revert to the equivalent, 'doctrine'; but it tends to be off-putting to some of the people who visit here, loaded as it is with Revivalist connotations. But to move forwards. I think it's a bit of stretch to state, as you falsely have, that I'm "forever reminding people of my qualifications" here. I've mentioned as much only a handful of times in the ten years that I've been active on this forum and its precursors, and when I do so it's been within the context of the discussion, and for a valid reason. I think that were you to spend even a little time scouring this site, that you'll discover it's malcontents such as yourself who invariably harp on about my 'quals'.

Trouble is, once all is said.......now I could be wrong, you don't through your discourses display a great deal of substance or wisdom, at least not evident yet from what I have read.

Really? Well, you might suggest as much. Others, however, may feel differently. In the end, 'though, I'm not convinced to this point that you are sufficiently experienced or reliable a guide for me to over concern myself with your judgments on the substance of biblical wisdom. But I'd be more than happy to be corrected on the matter.

One who uses the word 'naive' so regularly to persons in a forum such as this can really only belive that he himself has no shadow of turning and is well able to instruct those poor wretches on the way of true salvation. It also betrays a certain wolfishness, if really intersted in the 'work' of Christ, repent and take a different tack from where you have been.

I suppose we could always compare statistics, you and I. We could review how many people you've helped to leave Revivalism, to the number that I've helped; or compare the number of people that you've introduced to Christ, to the number that I've introduced. But such an approach, intriguing as it might be, would also be rather 'worldly', prideful and sinful. So I guess I'll simply continue to follow the track I've worn these past ten odd years, of providing informed commentary on the matters raised here, and allowing people to use their God-given sense to determine whether I meet the mark in what I write or not.

In some sick way, your theological pomp aligns you with those who recite long prayers and widen the hem of their garments to get the approval of their peers. Get real.

'Theological pomp'? Would such be the antonym of 'theological naivete'?

Theology is great to argue for those opposed to God and Christ or for the purpose of persuding those who seek God, but don't stand in the gate of heaven and stop those that want to go in. This is what I mean by the simplicity of the gospel, only to know Christ and Him Crucified, no amount of words you have to say can make too much difference, it is God who came down to man, not visa versa.

Jim, you might like to stop and think about the purpose of this site, and the sorts of engagements that occur here, before you go off half-cocked strewing judgments all over the place because your pride was wounded. Just a thought.

Blessings,

Ian



(Message edited by Didaktikon On 05/05/2009 19:12:26)

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Reply To dogmafree
(Date Posted:05/05/2009 18:30:04)

Good morning, Dog.

Myself,  I find much of christianity unpalatable, but I would say that Ian has represented christianity much more faithfully than any others I've encountered.  Almost makes me want to be a christian.  Almost.

While there's life, there's hope

Blessings,

Ian



(Message edited by Didaktikon On 05/05/2009 19:14:51)

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RE:Dear theologian
(Date Posted:05/05/2009 18:45:09)

Ian,
Just teasing! smiley33

Dog.

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