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(Date Posted:15/05/2007 18:24:25)
Reply to : dogmafree
For those that make those kind of statements that "God always comes through".....How is it that God always gets the glory for every positive outcome in your life, but whenever something goes wrong (as it invariably does) it isn't attributed to God, but we are at fault (lacking in faith, didn't appropriate the promises bah, blah, blah)It just does not compute![]Dog.
In the end ,for a Christian, I think it boils down to a question of faith. Are you a "ye of little faith", or are you one of the "your faith has healed you, go in peace" variety. Speaking from my own experience, as someone who often doubted, was often unsure, but hung on in, when told by the Consultant I had cancer, I never for a single moment blamed God, all I felt at that moment was a great sense of assurance that it would all come right. The guy said, " I dont want you to worry, I'm pretty sure we can deal with it" and I was able to immediately smile, and say " I shant worry, I have someone taking care of me, and He does my worrying for me. I'm sure that he'll be with me every step of the way, and will be guiding your hands " This is no bull shit. I'm not making it up. And I did come through surgery and chemo ok. Then they discovered that it had reocurred, and further surgery was planned. Again I never blamed , or turned away from God, I was still confident, and ,I never let it get me down.
Would I have been so confident if I did'nt have that faith? I cant answer that, but I know many who would have just gone to , pieces when faced with the news, and some have been known to end it all immediately. And when further tests,a month or so later could find no trace of the re-occurance, I was able to say to the Dr, "see, I told you it would turn out ok." And I certainly gave the glory to God. Maybe that was my trial of faith, maybe I needed that to bring about a change in me. Scoffers will scoff, and point out no doubt dozens of un believers, who's experience has been the same as mine, and Mothy still point out the amputees etc.and I'm unable to refute that. Even the Surgeon agreed that miracles happened, he'd seen them, but was unable to account for them., but that my positive attitude was in my favour.
So there you go, positive attitude, much easier to have , if you have faith, a lot harder without. All I know is I'm recovered, and my faith is 100% stronger now Shortly after that , the Lord lead us out of Rf, and into where we are now, I believe it was all part of His plan and purpose
God bless
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Anonymous
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(Date Posted:15/05/2007 18:25:40)
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Reply to : dogmafreeFor those that make those kind of statements that "God always comes through".....How is it that God always gets the glory for every positive outcome in your life, but whenever something goes wrong (as it invariably does) it isn't attributed to God, but we are at fault (lacking in faith, didn't appropriate the promises bah, blah, blah)It just does not compute![]Dog.In the end ,for a Christian, I think it boils down to a question of faith. Are you a "ye of little faith", or are you one of the "your faith has healed you, go in peace" variety. Speaking from my own experience, assomeone who often doubted, was often unsure, but hung on in, when told by the Consultant I had cancer, I never for a single moment blamed God, all I felt at tha
Blast, forgot to sign in again, the above Annon post is mine
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old holborn
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(Date Posted:15/05/2007 18:29:34)
Reply to : Anonymous
Reply to : AnonymousReply to : dogmafreeFor those that make those kind of statements that "God always comes through".....How is it that God always gets the glory for every positive outcome in your life, but whenever something goes wrong (as it invariably does) it isn't attributed to God, but we are at fault (lacking in faith, didn't appropriate the promises bah, blah, blah)It just does not compute![]Dog.In the end ,for a Christian, I think it boils down to a question of faith. Are you a "ye of little faith", or are you one of the "your faith has healed you, go in peace" variety. Speaking from my own experience, assomeone who often doubted, was often unsure, but hung on in, when told by the Consultant I had cancer, I never for a single moment blamed God, all I felt at thaBla
I will get it right if it kills me, the above annon posts are mine lol
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Anonymous
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(Date Posted:15/05/2007 19:43:51)
What I find interesting that a few people have mentioned is that they say
"the lord led me out of RF/RCI into XXX group"
But, perhaps they said the opposite when they first discovered God.. "I was led to the RCI/RF by God.."
Sorry, totally of point, but interesting note..
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earth5
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(Date Posted:16/05/2007 01:27:29)
Reply to : Anonymous
What I find interesting that a few people have mentioned is that they say"the lord led me out of RF/RCI into XXX group"But, perhaps they said the opposite when they first discovered God.. "I was led to the RCI/RF by God.."Sorry, totally of point, but interesting note..
Ok The Lord did lead us out of the rcf/ci into a great church in Auckland where we where loved nurtured, cared for and most importantly "SAFE" we learnt more about love, christian life style, grace the body of christ, there is more to God and the Holy Spirit Jesus that what we where ever told about in my 37 years of revival, Im sure that sea urchin set free will say the same
earth5
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn"t, than live my life as if there isn"t, and find out there is"
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old holborn
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(Date Posted:16/05/2007 01:47:00)
 Reply to : Anonymous
What I find interesting that a few people have mentioned is that they say"the lord led me out of RF/RCI into XXX group"But, perhaps they said the opposite when they first discovered God.. "I was led to the RCI/RF by God.."Sorry, totally of point, but interesting note..
I do believe that God lead me to the RCI/RF, I saw the great change in my sons life, after he joined, but for 5 yrs I resisted. But my son re-introduced me to the bible, which I had'nt read since my youth, and as I read it, I became convinced that I needed to get down off the fence, and make a commitment, which I eventualy did. I was baptised , and two days later while doing the RF allelujah thing, my tongue tripped, and I was saying something different entirely. My tongue also is Arabic in sound, and developed over the years from those first babble like noises.
Ive stated before that I am now uncertain wether this was God given, or induced, or learned, and I did'nt experience anything supernatural, only a great feeling of being at peace with God. What did happen, wether from Baptism, or after speaking in tongues I dont know, I was healed from a painful and progressive osteo-arthritus of the knee, immediate, and lasting. I can see how my life changed from that time, and i was placed on "the way" When the time was right , I believe God then led me to where I am now, and will continue to lead me and guide me through the Holy Spirit. Despite all that I've read, and the discussions I've had since leaving RF, on speaking in tongues, that tongue I recieved on that day has never left me, but I have put it into perspective now, and I put more value on the fruits of the Spirit, and no longer believe it is the sole evidence of recieving the Spirit, and that Gods Spirtual gifts are given to the Church, to some this, to some that, as the scriptures say, in order to strengthen it.and guide it.
Would God have eventualy drawn me to him, some other way? I guess if I'm written in that book He would have. And I guess if it was His plan and purpose i might be still there, although I'm convinced now that like O>T Isreal, theyve lost the plot, and their days are numbered. And He will lead many more out , and place them in safe places. I pray for that, (in English) but sometimes I also pray in my tongue language. I'ts not a part of the church service where I am now, but there are others there , including leaders ,who have had the same experience, and also speak in tongues and use it in their prayer time.
God bless
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