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RE:Modern-day
(Date Posted:28/09/2008 16:29:35)
Strange thing I was just thinking when perusing the latest musings from Alm...
To say or make a statement that one "has to speak in tongues" to be saved can easily be equated to the doctrine of salvation by works. That is to say "if I don't speak in tongues, then Jesus says that I am not saved" ..... and that explains why when so many people make claim to being able to "speak in tongues" are generally pretending to speak in tongues or "make it up" rather than submit to the real deal. The real deal is to know the Person of the Holy Spirit....
and that's the dilemma that a lot of the Revival Fellowship membership must find themselves in... (including all the 'Revivalist' churches at that too..)
What an interesting thought..
blessings all
ps made it bigger fonting for those who use glasses like me...
(Message edited by Disciple on 28/09/2008 16:39:14)
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RE:Modern-day
(Date Posted:29/09/2008 03:25:17)
Hi Disciple (with the fading eyesight) I don't think anyone in the Revival groups has an understanding of the person of the Holy Spirit - I certainly didn't and I don't think I was the only one. I always 'associated' the Holy Spirit with 'speaking in tongues'. I was just so dumb for so many years, and I had to repent. Even though I could blame the oversight for not 'teaching'me correctly, I also have to take responsibility for not searching the things of God for myself. Once I realised that I could have a personal relationship with my Lord and Saviour, I was blown away by the love and understanding that He showed me. I praise Him every single day that He took me from being a 'lukewarm seat-warmer' for 24 years - whilst it has only been just on 2 years since I left RF,it would have to be the BEST 2 years of my entire life. I love my Jesus so much and just want to live for Him now - sad that I missed out for so many years.
Yes, the Revival groups do have a 'works' doctrine, they do not understand grace and I think they honestly cannot even see it. When 'conditions' are put on salvation (eg MUST speak in tongues to be saved etc) we close our minds to the awesome wonder of God's grace.
God bless, Urch
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Didaktikon
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Reply To Sea%20Urchin
(Date Posted:29/09/2008 04:17:07)
Urchie,
I think the reason why the impact has been so great for you over the past two years, is that you went from being a "lost" Revivalist, to a "found" Christian. You became spiritually regenerate through God's grace, hence the significant personal transformation. I would that more Revivalists would similarly find Christ, and be found by him 
Blessings,
Ian
P.S. Chriss, sit up and take note. Until something similar happens to you, you'll remain unregenerate, un-saved and destined for the very same hell you threaten others with, here.
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Disciple
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Reply To Didaktikon
(Date Posted:29/09/2008 17:58:48)
Reply to Didaktikon, Urchie,
P.S. Chriss, sit up and take note. Until something similar happens to you, you'll remain unregenerate, un-saved and destined for the very same hell you threaten others with, here.
Hi Didaktikon and Urchie,
But this page on the 'Official' RF website says it all with the magniloquent headline:
"What is the Holy Spirit ?" .... and really the headline should read:
" Who is the Holy Spirit ? "blessings
Disciple.
ps BTW Didaktikon is that a pic of you playing with angels up there in the heavens ??
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(Message edited by Disciple on 29/09/2008 18:01:13)
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Didaktikon
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Reply To Disciple
(Date Posted:30/09/2008 01:48:52)
Hi, Eric.
The picture in question is a few years old now, but to answer your question, "yep". Sadly, given my relatively recent "Series of Unfortunate Events", Mrs Didaktikos has forbidden all future parachuting unless absolutely necessary (i.e. work-related and work-required) 
Still, now that I've hit the big "Four-Zero", I'm probably a little old to be engaging in such shenanigans anyway 
Blessings,
Ian
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RE:Modern-day
(Date Posted:30/09/2008 04:58:52)
Ian,
Four-Zero?, Still wet behind the ears mate. ha
brolga
(PS not meaning that you "know nothing", but that you still have years ahead of you, comparing my age)
(Message edited by brolga on 30/09/2008 06:36:02)
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Didaktikon
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Reply To brolga
(Date Posted:30/09/2008 07:29:47)
Ralph,
Sure. But in "dog years" I'm older 'en Methuselah! 
Blessings, you fogey.
Ian
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brolga
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RE:Modern-day
(Date Posted:30/09/2008 08:17:21)
Reply to Didaktikon
Ralph,
Sure. But in "dog years" I'm older 'en Methuselah! 
Blessings, you fogey.
Ian
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Wow, I'm not game to work out how old that makes me. I know, I'm a boring old fogey, but I'm still engaging in certain shenanigans that should have ceased years ago and still here learning not to ass about. brolga
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