urchin: You were talking about hypnotism?
16 Aug 08, 19:56
Moth:
Yeah, hypnotism is a crock, but I'm amazed (but
shouldn't be) with the amount of people who are taken in by it. I went
to the psychic expo down the road... it wasn't fantabulous.
16 Aug 08, 19:57
urchin: so, you went to the psychic expo - did they know you were coming?
16 Aug 08, 19:58
urchin: the reason i mentioned hypnotism is cos there is guy at rf here in adelaide that has just become a hypnotherapist
16 Aug 08, 19:58
urchin: started his own business and all
16 Aug 08, 19:59
urchin: used hypnosis to 'fix' people's problems/habits/issues etc
16 Aug 08, 19:59
Moth:
Yeah, I went to a couple of expensive and well known
hypnotherapists when I went witchdoctor hunting while searching for a
tinnitus cure.
16 Aug 08, 20:01
urchin: heard he's been able to 'witness' to people & has brought them along to rf.
16 Aug 08, 20:01
urchin: probably the only way they can get new people along these days??
16 Aug 08, 20:02
Moth:
A Revivalist hypnotherapist? Pfft... just when you think you've read
about enough stupidity for one day. Well, it's a good marriage. Both
require people to blank their minds and be open to the suggestions of a
con man.
16 Aug 08, 20:04
urchin:
He 'studied' & got qualified without talking to the pastors about
it & just opened his clinic in his house. (Southern Hynosis Centre
if you wanna have a look)
16 Aug 08, 20:06
urchin:
Then the pastors got wind of it & were NOT happy, but as he's a
wealthy businessman and also has brought some new people along, they
decided it was OK
16 Aug 08, 20:06
urchin: bizarro!
16 Aug 08, 20:08
Moth:
Penn and Teller are world famous magicians and they exposed the myths
and secrets of hypnotherapy well enough for me. Not that I believe
everything P&T say in their TV series, 'Bullshit', but this was a
topic that magicians and psychological illusionists should know well.
Derren Brown is also amazing for exposing these techniques and has a
show on uk-tv.
16 Aug 08, 20:11
urchin:
his website states; he devotes his time to helping people to achieve
positive, beneficial beliefs through the amazing naturally-occurring
state of hypnosis; helping people to believe and receive a life of
health, success and happiness.
16 Aug 08, 20:12
urchin:
He raves on about how wealthy he is & how many businesses he has
and then encourages people to come & see him so that they can '
believe and receive' the same benefits. UNREAL or what!!
16 Aug 08, 20:14
Moth:
All these things are ultimately difficult, or impossible, to prove are
a result of sessions with a hypnotherapist. It's hit and miss and a
huge placebo effect. Pay the $150 dollars and have someone whisper
sweet nothings in your ear for an hour, then if the life change happens
trace it back to the hypnotist. The shades of 'prayer line' thinking is
strikingly similar, if you know what I mean (not meant as a debunking
statement of all prayer).
16 Aug 08, 20:20
Moth:
Meh, what a jerk this hypnoRevivalist sounds. I'm too annoyed to talk
about it anymore. Gets my goat. Parents to entertain and movie to
watch. Catch you later.
16 Aug 08, 20:22
urchin: catchya
16 Aug 08, 20:30
urchin:
another quote from their website: Hypnosis is a naturally-occurring
state that you have already experienced many times during the day. The
twilight time as you drift off to sleep and emerge from sleep,
daydreaming, zoning out with a good book or movie, driving your car
‘auto-pilot’ while being deep in thought. All are examples of a light
state of hypnosis." Or try Sunday arvos at rf meeting!! LOL
16 Aug 08, 20:31
urchin: And BTW moth, he's SO good that it's not $150 it's $180/session
16 Aug 08, 20:36
urchin:
another enlightening bit from his website: "With hypnotherapy, any
negative, restricting beliefs are instantly replaced with positive
beneficial beliefs." Boy, no wonder the rf pastors weren't happy!
Where's the mention of God in all this?
16 Aug 08, 20:38
urchin:
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16 Aug 08, 22:48
Didaktikon: Just visited the RF "Hypnocrap
" website. What a joke Ian
16 Aug 08, 22:49
Didaktikon:
Here's a man who is apparently not just a Revivalist (which bespeaks a
lack of credibility to begin with), but a
"name-it-claim-it/health-wealth-and-prosperity" twit as well. Seems to
me that he's skating very close to The Edge!
Ian
