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centrals never busy ie telephone to Glorythe other never heard of???Make my life to be (oh glory) like a melodyjesus keep me as the apple of thine eye righr under the shadow of thy wing....heavenly father I appreciatte youjust one day nearer homethe steps of a goos man are ordered by the lordhow great is our Godmove move move oh move with God, Glory halleujahIm save and happy nowmine eyes have been enlightened to now the hopeany more?????????????????????

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Reply to : earth5I have the official music book somewhere. I am going to have to find it because there were some good ones we would all remember.He's my rock my sword my shieldThe Old Old StoryThis is the dayJesus Loves Me This I KnowPress Down Shaking TogetherOh there are so many more that I can't think of right now... where did I stash that book??centrals never busy ie telephone to Glorythe other never heard of???Make my life to be (oh glory) like a melodyjesus keep me as the apple of thine eye righr under the shadow of thy wing....heavenly father I appreciatte youjust one day nearer homethe steps of a goos man are ordered by the lordhow great is our Godmove move move oh move with God, Glory halleujahIm save and happy nowmine eyes have been enlightened to now the hopeany m

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     In the twinkling of an eye ( another assembly will have gone )

         Be strong, and of good courage. ( theres life after revival )

        Are you discouraged,and are you blue. ( leave now)

         Move , move, move, (right out of there )

         Be gentle, be kind, ( Dont do as I do, do as I tell you.)

         Life is wonderful  ( now that I've left. )

         Humble youselves ( keep away from christians)

just one day nearer home

heaven is better than this

have you been filled with the holy ghost and power

some golden day break

pressed down shaked together (with actions)

there is a saviour and he died for me

jesus is the joy of living

he is my everything he is my all

my god is able his able I know his able

turn your eys upon jesus (still like that one)

heavenly father I appreciate you

father in heavein I adore you (blessed be the lord God almighty)

Jesus christ of nazereth walked by the sea ( sung to puff the magic dragon tune)

his alive his alive his alive for evermore jesus is risen from the dead

how great is our God

when the gates swing wide on the other side

where is all this stuff comming from, the deep dark recesses of my tiny wee mind

Thanks earth 5 for getting us back on the topic. Old Holb and Frank need to learn how to play catch up and hows the family via private email!

Anyway, can sleep now after getting that off my chest.

Or maybe I should have said I can rest now...... There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God (repeat) - really high now - He that is entered, into his rest, he also has ceased, from his own works, (first line and sing it deep) there remaineth zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Thanks earth 5 for getting us back on the topic. Old Holb and Frank need to learn how to play catch up and hows the family via private email!Anyway, can sleep now after getting that off my chest.Or maybe I should have said I can rest now...... There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God (repeat) - really high now - He that is entered, into his rest, he also has ceased, from his own works, (first line and sing it

deep) there remaineth zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

 Snot  me , tis im. I've put it back on thread  Sleep tight .

This is the day ( for getting out of there )

Hes able ( to carry you through if you do \)

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Reply to : Nahum 1v7Thanks earth 5 for getting us back on the topic. Old Holb and Frank need to learn how to play catch up and hows the family via private email!Anyway, can sleep now after getting that off my chest.Or maybe I should have said I can rest now...... There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God (repeat) - really high now - He that is entered, into his rest, he also has ceased, from his own works, (first line and sing itdeep) there remaineth zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzSnot me , tis im. I've put it back on threadSleep tight .This is the day ( for getting out of there )Hes able ( to carry you through if you do \)

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  How about

There is no condemnation   ( Unless you leave )

All over the world, the Spirit is moving (RF havent got the monopoly on it )

Every body ought to Know ( RF IS A CULT )

The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases  ( even if you leave )

NO 478. I'ts good to be free. ( come on out )

No 489. I'm free free free. ( best move I ever made )

Life is wonderful ( now I'm freeof the CONTROL )

God is good to me  ( even tho I've left )

Glory be to God, He lifted me up ( and I recovered from years of oppression )

His name is higher, than any other, His name is Prince of peace, the mighty God. ( we dont believe that  in RF, but the tunes catchy, so what the heck)  

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Reply to : Nahum 1v7Thanks earth 5 for getting us back on the topic. Old Holb and Frank need to learn how to play catch up and hows the family via private email!Anyway, can sleep now after getting that off my chest.Or maybe I should have said I can rest now...... There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God (repeat) - really high now - He that is entered, into his rest, he also has ceased, from his own works, (first line and sing itdeep) there remaineth zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzSnot me , tis im. I've put it back on threadSleep tight .This is the day ( for getting out of there )Hes able ( to carry you through if you do \) How aboutThere is no condemnation ( Unless you leave )All over the world, the Spirit is moving (RF havent got t

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Beautiful, old holborn!!  You hit the nail on the head - when we ' come out and be separate'  suddenly the choruses make more sense - how come?? 

Now I can sing because I'm happy, I can shout because I'm free, I've been changed into His likeness, He has given me liberty............

Urchin

its sort of been fun and scary going over all the old songs down memory lane, what about the hymms

onward christian soldiers,

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How about ' we've got a great big wonderful God' I felt like i was at kindy listening to that crap

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Reply to : illegal alienHow about ' we've got a great big wonderful God' I felt like i was at kindy listening to that crapyeh.... but its alot more fun in kindy

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Reply to : break freeReply to : illegal alienHow about ' we've got a great big wonderful God' I felt like i was at kindy listening to that crapyeh.... but its alot more fun in kindyNot only a lot more fun in kindy- the ' teachers' are smarter and more kind!!

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    Heres a few more to bring comfort and hope to those struggling to come to terms with their new found freedom.  Thanks RF for teaching us these things. Why dont you practice them?

Where there is faith there is a voice calling, keep walking,  youre' not alone in this world..  ( But if you leave you will lose your salvation )

For Christ is the head of the church   ( But we reserve the right to make our own rules )

The Lord has given a land of good things   ( but most of them are now fobidden under our rules)

Jesus is my saviour  .  ( but only if you speak in tongues.  Rule No 1.)

The few hymns I can recall were old tried and trusted ones from the established churches, and they are'nt included in thisRevival Fellowship Chorus book I'm looking at. Too wishy washy, and liable to give people liberal ideas. I guess.    In the early days of RCI , and later RF here in UK, we had no official Chorus or Hymn books, and we used books from other Pentecostal churches. as well as any other hymns deemed suitable by our pastor. He favoured  old Pentecostal  stuff like Amazing Grace,  I'm living,on a mountain,  Bread of Heaven, Mine Eyes have sen the Glory, and many old Wesley ones. Life in revival then was much different.

We all thought we had found something good, with a wonderful message, Repent, be baptised , and recieve the gift of the Holy Spirit, as Peter proclaimed., nothing wrong with that, who would'nt want to start over  and rise up a new creation.  But of course very subtley it became more hard line,  without you realy noticing , until you became brainwashed, and accepted all the other rubbish. Later still came official music books, approved by head office, and old established Hymns were excluded.

I made out a 2 foolscap list of choruses and hymns that had been dropped, and gave it to the o.site requesting they werent alowed to die, it was ignored of course, The head office,  in Adelaide by this time , was excerting its control., and we had to toe the line

Excuse the history lesson folks,  but  "every body ought to know"

its beggining to rain, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, if only we knew what we where sing about back then

let the spirit of the lord saturatue your soul

let the spirit of the lord saturate your soul

he'll fill you up and over again , he'll fill you over again

so let the spirit of the lord saturate you soul

then move onto hill song

holy spirit rain down, rain down,    man i cried and cried when we sang that one in my new church

yes, its an older hillsong one. I was living in NZ when this one came out.

Hill Song music really opened up the flood gates for me re worship and intimate moments with God

oh ok. the reason I ask is because the place I attend sings an AWESOME song called Rain Down. Well, i dunno if it's actually called that, but if it's not it should be!  

Yeah, worship songs have played a big part in breaking off the cement that was encasing my heart. i love being able to pray to god through these awesome songs and sing loudly and really geniunely praise the Lord with EVERYTHING within me.

Holy Spirit rain down, rain down

oh comfortor and friend, let me feel your touch again

Holy Spirit rain down, raim down

let you fire fall, let your voice be heard... etc

is this the one you sing?????

CCC Church oxford falls in Sydney have some awsome worship music as well, as do Citipointe church mansfield Brisbane (bit bias on that one however)

Also try Parachute Band NZ, there is so much available out there music wise whichis great, turn up the stereo set free and sing your lungs out to our wonderful savouir

be blessed

Earth5

Yes I know/heard of Mike great guy and obvously been attacked at present (satan does that to those that are hurting him and his kingdom) we continue to pray for him and his family.

I have been to Southside (now the edge) a number of times and have family and many friends there. I love Pastor Danny G, such a humble man and a pastor in the true sense of the word, if we lived in Adelaide again that is where I and my family would fellowship.

Heard last night from my sister that you have outgrown the new building already (upstairs) and have to go back to 2 morning meetings again wow God is really rocking the house in south Adelaide and I hear the city church is busting at the seams to AMEN

We must touch base on private email to chat further

God Bless

Earth5

have you been filled with the holy ghost and power

is jesus real to you heart and life this hour

tarry before him until the lord of glory

sends down from heaven the shower of later rain

its the later rain its the later rain its the later rain revival in me..........

jesus is the joy of living his the king of life to me

now unto him who is able to keep able to keep you from falling

blessed be the lord god almighty

How great is our god how great is is word

life is wonderful yes lifes wonderful life is wonderful now to me

some fine mornignwhen this life is over Ill fly away... ill fly away oh glory I'll fly away

his the christ of yesterday today for ever and his mine oh yes his mine

make my life to be oh glory like a melody ever telling out the message of the cross

over in glory over in glory after a while, all my joys will be complete when i sit at jesus feet ......

everybody ought to know  (ladies repeat)

just some more,

expect a miracle every day.

Some Golden day break Jesus will come

S A V I O U R (each letter was sung out)

God is good to me oh what love I see

got any rivers you think are uncrossable, got any mountains you carnt tunnel through

his alive his alive his alive for ever more

have you a saviour like this saviour of mine

get them out look them gone all the little rabbits in the field of corn, envy ,jelousy malice and pride they must never in my heart abide.

jesus keep me as the apple of thine eye

something beautiful, something good

lifr high the banners of love "hallujah"

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just some more,expect a miracle every day.Some Golden day break Jesus will comeS A V I O U R (each letter was sung out)God is good to me oh what love I seegot any rivers you think are uncrossable, got any mountains you carnt tunnel throughhis alive his alive his alive for ever morehave you a saviour like this saviour of mineget them out look them gone all the little rabbits in the field of corn, envy ,jelousy malice and pride they must never in my heart abide.jesus keep me as the apple of thine eyesomething beautiful, something goodlifr high the banners of love "hallujah"

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How about more action songs

I will make you fishers of men 

Stop and let me tell you

when the gates swing wide on the other side

and then joy is a flag flown high from the castle of my heart,

ps hang there break free not all pento churchs are bad and there are also some great tradional churches out there, my wife went to a baptist church the other day and found it very powerful and moving,

earth5

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How about more action songsI will make you fishers of menStop and let me tell youwhen the gates swing wide on the other sideand then joy is a flag flown high from the castle of my heart,ps hang there break free not all pento churchs are bad and there are also some great tradional churches out there, my wife went to a baptist church the other day and found it very powerful and moving,earth5

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you forgot father abraham- but maybe that was just a sunday school song...

i know not all pentcostal churches are bad, and im sure there are alot of good churches here in perth, i know my sister loves her church which is penticostal and the biggest church here in perth, ive been but i think its too big for me- very easy to get lost and i think that is the last thing i need. i think what i realy want is a smallish church with a realy good grounding in the scriptures (cause there is alot i need to relearn without the revival slant) i also want something that doesnt have 1 leader held up on a pedistool- i dont know sometimes i read how happy and excited you, sea urchin, set free and old holborn and it makes me realy sad that i dont have that- but i get freaked out by full on christians (there are certen catchphrases that make me die inside) and i dont think i could deal with more people who judge peoples godliness/spiritualness/christianness on a sliding scale who think you shouldnt have friends who dont go to the church, or there is something wrong if you dont want to do street evangelisum.

i want my kids to grow up with a relationship with god but also the freedom to grow, make mistakes ect. without having to worry about how they will be judged by the church or to feel they have to hide what they do from me (my sister and i grew up keeping so many secrets it isnt healthy and it can be dangerous)

i dont know sometimes i read how happy and excited you, sea urchin, set free and old holborn and it makes me realy sad that i dont have that- but i get freaked out by full on christians (there are certen catchphrases that make me die inside) and i dont think i could deal with more people who judge peoples godliness/spiritualness/christianness on a sliding scale who think you shouldnt have friends who dont go to the church, or there is something wrong if you dont want to do street evangelisum.  i want my kids to grow up with a relationship with god but also the freedom to grow, make mistakes ect. without having to worry about how they will be judged by the church or to feel they have to hide what they do from me (my sister and i grew up keeping so many secrets it isnt healthy and it can be dangerous)________________________________________________________________________

Hi Break Free,  your post brought tears to my eyes when I read it. 

You are quite right - we should be able to  (1) have friends not in the church and also friends that go to other churches (2) not be made to feel we are 'unspiritual' if we don't want to go door-knocking/outreaching and ramming  OUR beleifs down people's throats  (3) we should NEVER be judged by the church we go to as that is only God's role (4) we should NEVER have to keep secrets or feel that we have to 'hide' things, and I could go on and on.

I heard a story in church the other day, it was about the prodigal son and how, when he returns we should put our arms around him and love him and tell him and show him HOW MUCH we unconditionally love him.  However, some churches don't do the above - they STONE the prodigal son.   (sound familiar?)

Break Free, I understand what you are saying about being wary of going somewhere else, but I can tell you one thing I have discovered and that is, there are some AWESOME churches out there that DO NOT judge, they wrap their arms around you and show you the way back to God.  Oops, here I go again - tears come to my eyes whenever I think about just how much Jesus loves us and wants us to draw close to Him so that He can bless us and hold us close to Him.  My heart is so full of God's love that I feel I am overflowing with it and just HAVE to pass it on to others. No longer do I have to say to people  ' you MUST speak in tongues to be saved' etc  -  now I just tell them of God's love and I understand that it is all about our personal relationship with Jesus Christ  that matters.

Rather than be seen to be 'preaching'  on the forum, you are more than welcome to email me (addess at the top) or PM me if you want to talk anytime. 

Jesus loves you BF

Love from Sea Urchin xx

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Reply to : break freei dont know sometimes i read how happy and excited you, sea urchin, set free and old holborn and it makes me realy sad that i dont have that- but i get freaked out by full on christians (there are certen catchphrases that make me die inside) and i dont think i could deal with more people who judge peoples godliness/spiritualness/christianness on a sliding scale who think you shouldnt have friends who dont go to the church, or there is something wrong if you dont want to do street evangelisum. i want my kids to grow up with a relationship with god but also the freedom to grow, make mistakes ect. without having to worry about how they will be judged by the church or to feel they have to hide what they do from me (my sister and i grew up keeping so many secrets it isnt healthy and it can be dangerous)_____________________________

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Your so right little sea urchin, where I go is completely unjudgemental. When I told them our story we were treated  just like the prodigal son, or the lost sheep that had come home.  

 Yes we  hear what is right, that Jesus payed our debt, we're no longer under the law of sin and death, but not to hide our faults, but to be open and admit them, asking forgiveness, from Jesus, and it will always be given .

Yes we hear that we should strive for a good walk, and not give in to the flesh, but no one pretends they are perfect, or holier than thou.We all need the same help, and should pray for each other.

Yes we call on the Holy Spirit to strengthen and guide us, and believe that he does, because thats the promise.

No  we dont tell anyone they are unsaved because they dont speak in tongues

No we dont have ridiculous rules on dress, length of mens hair,  courting,  etc  no one keeps a tally of how many meetings, events outreaches etc you attend , or not. Alchohol is'nt regarded as a sin, only drunkeness. Smoking is'nt a sin, it's a bad habit.,  They just are'nt concerned about these things. But of course in the revival churches they are all  means of  control by putting feelings of guilt on people. We are encouraged to have friends outside the fellowship, we do so many things together with other christians that we are all friends and help each other, visit each others churches etc. This is normal, we dont criticise, or try to change their way of doing things, because we do things differently to them. or the other way round.

Is'nt it wonderful to be free to worship and praise the Lord without fear ,and .to have that personal relationship with Jesus without guilt layed on you. Wanting to get to every thing , looking forward to the next meeting to feel the love and the joy. not from a sense of duty, but because you want to be there . Thats how I was when \I first went along to Revival, but over the years it was eroded away by legalism, politics and poor leadership. Praise the Lord for leading me to this place.

Have a happy Easter  Day, God bless.

Is'nt it wonderful to be free to worship and praise the Lord without fear ,and .to have that personal relationship with Jesus without guilt layed on you. Wanting to get to every thing , looking forward to the next meeting to feel the love and the joy. not from a sense of duty, but because you want to be there . Thats how I was when \I first went along to Revival, but over the years it was eroded away by legalism, politics and poor leadership. Praise the Lord for leading me to this place.

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Hi Old H - WOULD YOU GUYS STOP IT!!!!  My eyes keep leaking when I hear of so many people lately who are getting so blessed.  I LOVE IT!  If only I'd know sooner of the freedom, the liberty, the absolute joy of being able to praise and worship because we WANT to do these things because we LOVE GOD so much.  You're quite right old H, there is no longer a sense of obligation of 'having' to attend meetings. These days I get all excited on a Sat night cos I know it will only be another 12 hrs till I get to go and join with hundreds of other like-minded people who all WANT to get together and praise our awesome God. The 'legalism, politics and poor leadership'  sums it up really well.  Under the leadership we have now, we are all growing spiritually in leaps and bounds - I realise now that God doesn't want us to stay in a time warp as in RF where nothing changes and 'traditions of man' abound. They let fear of change hold them back from receiving God's blessings but they just can't see it.

Happy Easter to you and the mrs, old H - may you be forever blessed by the Lord,

Sea Urchin

Hey Break free, understand your fear, please dont let this hold you back, satan really wants to keep us in a place of fear. Use the caution you may have though, there are some very safe places out there, go have a look, and God will lead you to the place that is right for you and your wonderful children. A place that is safe and secure a place of love and not judgment a place where you can meet the God who LOVES YOU break free because you are worthy of his love and you are worthy of his sacrafice on the cross, please know that I and Im sure others like sea urchin and Old H, set free are praying for you and will continue to keep you in my prayers.

Be Blessed

earth5

just some more lol

have you been filled with the holy ghost and power, is Jesus real to your heart and life this hour?

Count your blessings name them one by one,

Cover me Cover me extend the borders of your mantel over me eeeee e.

The Windows os heaven are oprn the blessings are falling tonight

its the later rain its the later rain, its the later rain revival in me.

Dont stop praying the lord is nigh dont stop praying he'll hear your cry

reach our and touch the lord as he passes by.

Hi Mailboy, well Im sure you would expect a "what the" response, however I will say again we are all part of the body and each part of that body has its function and place.

Hillsong is not for everyone and neither do they expect it to be, when songs of praise was all the rage the old elim song book people thought that this songs of praise wah an outrage and the good old hymnal singers thought that the elim song book songs where an outrage an thus it goes on.

I love some of the old hymnals and songs of praise and hillsong music. Mailboy it comes down to flavour , I have learnt awhile ago because it is not my "flavour" does not make it wrong its about what gets you me otheres into a place where we can allow God to come into our lives and meet with us there in the place of worship, where we can come as inderviduals and as a church before the throne room of God and bless his holy name and Glorify him.

If you dont like hillsong style of music dont go there, find a place to fellowship where they have a similair heart as you in the end its about the fruit what is the fruit of the music,is it leading people into a deeper realtionship with God if so dont condem it appreciatte that it is doing that as much as the music the you enjoy does for you, I rejoice with you that you love this music and i ask that you allow othes to do the same

God Bless

earth5

I just never want to clap again in my whole entire life

No clapping

Understandable my friend understanable, dont let the *** get to you though ok

earth5

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Hillsong obviously think God is deaf. I am perplexed as to why the music has to be so loud and we have to "Shout unto the Lord". Couldn't we sing in a normal voice, and hope by now God in His omnipotence has now created for himself a hearing aide?Don't get me wrong I grew up loving Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Elvis (before he started wearing Liberace's clothes and imitating the Michelin Man) and of course the Beatles etc. All very, very, loud. But imagine ballads of Simon and Garfunkel, songs with a story, being shouted. Ridiculous!We had all the banal songs from the Revival Centres, despite believing we were spiritually superior to them (I am ex Pentecost Revival Centre, the fanatic loonies, who made the Revival Centre loonies etclook tame).However having been a Prodigal for many years, I was disappointed that all the "Scripture In

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Hi MB, I think I see where youre coming from, I do think there is a danger of the music becoming too important, of people forgetting their first love and transferring it to what is entertaining. Theres alot of power and influence in music, people can get carried away by the beauty of harmonious sounds, or worked up into a frenzy by others. It happens all the time in the world of Pop music, with all the swooning  and screaming etc. Theres also the tendency to make idols of the musicians, and singers, following them rather than Jesus.

Having said that  music has always played an imporant part in our worship,in our praise, and without it  church services would be very dull indeed, and more of us would likely doze off through sheer fatigue. The trouble is, there are so many styles, and fashions in music, While Jesus is the same today and for always, music styles change all the time,not always for the better if your an old fart like me. I think we should always have a good mixture of old and new otherwise theres a danger of the music becoming devisive, with Churches full of either old farts, or young trendies, and I dont think that would be a good thing. I cant comment about Hillsong, never having gone to one.

Myself, I'm happy to stand up and sing praises to God, and \I can do that  more easily if  its old familiar stuff, and the words are uplifting. ( and if the dear old pianist/ organist in our church is familiar with it )  If we only go to a place because the musics great, maybe we should think about that, it should'nt be all about music and entertainment .

\On the other hand , providing you are being fed with the word, and the Spirit is moving there , enjoy the music, and be entertained, we have that choice now  Praise God. Maybe we should swop meetings say once a month, so that we dont get in a rut, and learn to appreciate every kind of praise singing and worship.  

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Hillsong obviously think God is deaf. I am perplexed as to why the music has to be so loud and we have to "Shout unto the Lord". Couldn't we sing in a normal voice, and hope by now God in His omnipotence has now created for himself a hearing aide?Don't get me wrong I grew up loving Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Elvis (before he started wearing Liberace's clothes and imitating the Michelin Man) and of course the Beatles etc. All very, very, loud. But imagine ballads of Simon and Garfunkel, songs with a story, being shouted. Ridiculous!We had all the banal songs from the Revival Centres, despite believing we were spiritually superior to them (I am ex Pentecost Revival Centre, the fanatic loonies, who made the Revival Centre loonies etclook tame).However having been a Prodigal for many years, I was disappointed that all the "Scripture In

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I dont know whether this is worth metioning or not as I know that people have every right to their own personal opinions and preferneces

BUT ... Recently I was at the Hillsong Colour Womens Conference (which I try to get to evey year) and was very moved by something that Darlene mentioned (and I will say 'metioned' as it wasnt like she was preaching or anything at the time). She said that recently she went through a time when she felt a bit 'deflated' by the label that Hillsong had of being the "Singing Church". She said she was stirring on the inside, wanting to be so much more than just about music. With nations and generations being killed off by disease and poverty, with so much injustice still in the world, she found herself crying out to God about these things. It was in prayer that God said to her that BECAUSE of their music, they now have so much influence in the world, they have the ability to go into places where others may not be able to to.  God urged her to now connect the music with the plight of humanity. It was then that Darlene said it all just clicked, all the music so far has been a small part of Gods plan for much bigger future.

You know, we can critisise their music and challenge them about the 'biblical content' and so on (although I have to say that I find that a lot of their songs come straight from scripture, it is probably more the musical style that people dont like) but I think we have to see beyond that. Who are we to say what God's plan is for Hillsong in this area. God sees a much bigger picture than we do (thank goodness for that) and if their music is a vehicle to bring change and hope ... and dare I say it ..... financial help into areas that we only see or read about on the news, then I say AMEN!

We all acknowledge that we are one body with many different parts - YET we still wish the we were all 'feet' or whatever. Just like anyone else, I can go to a place like Hillsong  and sit and critise their music, preaching etc. or I can go in with an open heart that is ready to except people/churches for their uniquness and their special journey that God has them on. I can go back to my own church afterwards and say things like "They don't do this right, they ar totally off the track in that area", or I can take home a piece of something special that I got while I was there - the message that      "It is sooooo much than about just little old me ...... it is about a Fathers heart that is breaking over a lost and broken generation"

Like I said before, just my opinion, thats all.

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Reply to : mailboyHillsong obviously think God is deaf. I am perplexed as to why the music has to be so loud and we have to "Shout unto the Lord". Couldn't we sing in a normal voice, and hope by now God in His omnipotence has now created for himself a hearing aide?Don't get me wrong I grew up loving Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Elvis (before he started wearing Liberace's clothes and imitating the Michelin Man) and of course the Beatles etc. All very, very, loud. But imagine ballads of Simon and Garfunkel, songs with a story, being shouted. Ridiculous!We had all the banal songs from the Revival Centres, despite believing we were spiritually superior to them (I am ex Pentecost Revival Centre, the fanatic loonies, who made the Revival Centre loonies etclook tame).However having been a Prodigal for many years, I was disapp

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Reply to : Grace4meReply to : set freeany of you guys remember "Central's never busy" or "The shepherd's footsteps"[isgusted;]I was always amused to sing " living on the shore I'm living on the shore I'm Living where the healing waters flow " followed by that other great hymn " launch out into the deep, launch out launch out in the ocean divine". Man I used to get confused. I actually picture a Gilbert and Sullivan type of scene with half the church singinging'lauch out launch out"and the other half of the church facing the first group responding with " Im living on the shore I'm living on the shore" and back and forth and so on. Aaaagh sorry sick mind. Years of rf you know !Now wait a minute! I think you are on to something. Gilbert & Sullivan move over......

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Mail boy that is the best andfunniest thing I have read for a while well done can yo uimagine the look of horror on there faces if that got onto the stage, I need to audtion for that one  bring it on

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