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Title: Kuhlman gets tough
  
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Registered: 06/04/2001

(Date Posted:20/01/2007 13:02:12)

$%*'`[biggirl]%*'`@Seems to be a bit of a haemmorage at Woodcroft church in Adelaide. Lots of old families left in last week or so. A few Pastors 'put out' on east coast, and watch out for Canberra! John Kuhlmans talk today at Woodcroft covered such issues as; we have boundaries to keep you safe, don't talk to ex-members, we are too busy to fellowship with other Pentecostal people and churches, Pentecostal churches now have too much psychology in them, don't read any christian pamphlets , books, or watch christian tv programs, "some people say our worship time is boring." Fun and games
franks ghost
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Rank:Poster Venti I

Score:6310
Registered: 04/02/2007


(Date Posted:08/02/2007 01:48:47)

Reply to : meg36

what exactly is happening at Woodcroft? I can't ask my dad cos he still goes there!!!!. I am wondering if any families I know have left.

Hi Meg, If you want to talk to your Dad ask him about Canberra 400 left in last 10 years. Last week they shut Hobart. In Bunduberg what was 250 people is now about 25 and JK is going up at end of month to sort it out, still more unrest. Go back down the coast to Port Maquarie that recently saw 30 go, down to Moruya where if you are following some of the messages Steve Atkin has been emailed and disindorsed as a Pr.     Then of coarse Melbourne is suffering , people put out waiting to be heard (small fish). I personally can't help apply Ezekial 34  Wo the Shepherds of Israel etc. go have a look. We need the Chief Shepherd to appear and the true sheep will hear his voice and can you begin to imagine those people coming out in droves from under all the banners. I have a mental image of the leaders rushing out saying come back, come back don't get mixed up in this thing, you know how bad Penticost is , don't get Charismatic. Oh stop that whorship , put your hands down, dont look up like that with your eyes closed and whorshipping. Why are you insisting on singing those awful Hillsong whorship songs, whats wrong Jehovah Jirah? There will be a group that on that day will be informed "I never knew you, do you think it will be the starving, lost, the misguided sheep. What group do you think the Chief Shepherd will have compassion on.

Boy I think I got of the track, anyway have fun with dad, you might help him in love to work out his own salvation. Who knows you might even have to go look up a scripture or 2 and see sum stuff youself. This walk of ours is just a bubby bit more than what we have been led to believe. As for me I'm pleased I came to a group that directed me to the Water & Spirit, however Gal 3:3 Having begun in the Spirit are you now made perfect in the Flesh and so on.....Oh how I love the Word of God.

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it is the glory of God to conceal a matter but the honour of kings to search it out.

earth5
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Rank:Poster Venti III

Score:11420
Registered: 07/01/2007


(Date Posted:08/02/2007 02:41:02)

Hey Franklin64,

Like you I am very excited to see what is happening to the revers and the way that God is moving his people to places of safety

What Church do you now attend? if any .

When I and my wife left some ten years ago God revealed the scripture re wow unto you shepards etc, we loved the part we it promised that I will bring you ionto green pastures etc boy did we rejoice in that one and it is/was so true for us. God really took us to a very "safe" place where we where loved and nurtured (and deprogramed after 30 plus years)

regards

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I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn"t, than live my life as if there isn"t, and find out there is"

meg36
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Rank:Lurker

Score:220
Registered: 13/03/2006


(Date Posted:08/02/2007 04:00:16)

Reply to : earth5

Hey Franklin64,Like you I am very excited to see what is happening to the revers and the way that God is moving his people to places of safetyWhat Church do you now attend? if any .When I and my wife left some ten years ago God revealed the scripture re wow unto you shepards etc, we loved the part we it promised that I will bring you ionto green pastures etc boy did we rejoice in that one and it is/was so true for us. God really took us to a very "safe" place where we where loved and nurtured (and deprogramed after 30 plus years)regards
meg36
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Rank:Lurker

Score:220
Registered: 13/03/2006


(Date Posted:08/02/2007 04:07:09)

oops! wrong button. However. I would love to speak to my dad, but he is so engrained it would be useless. When we left about 3 years ago, I had hoped (ha ha) that old friendswould keep in contact. I should add that my dad is an old timer. having been going to RCI/RF for 25 years now. We never discuss anything which is going on.

Anyway, whats this about Hobart? I though Kevin Williams was running that, although I had heard he is coming back to Adelaide because his wife has, or had cancer. So, rather than appointing someone else, they are shutting it down?

no1home
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Rank:Rookier

Score:1740
Registered: 01/02/2007


(Date Posted:08/02/2007 14:02:41)

Reply to : meg36


Anyway, whats this about Hobart? I though Kevin Williams was running that, although I had heard he is coming back to Adelaide because his wife has, or had cancer. So, rather than appointing someone else, they are shutting it down?



I didn't know D had cancer, if that's true I hope shes OK.
Hobart would have imploded anyway under K's dictatorship. Too much of the old school Adelaide control freak mentality. In Hobart he would get stuck into people because he didn't think they were arriving early enough for meetings, so with that approach there probably aren't enough people left to appoint someone else.

It's the same old story from the hardline RF oversight ... don't care how you're going or what's happening in your life, as long as you dutifully show up, look happy, hand over your 10% and do as you're told.
Marmalade Pie
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Rank:Rookier III

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Registered: 30/12/2005


(Date Posted:09/02/2007 01:40:21)

Reply to : meg36


I had hoped (ha ha) that old friendswould keep in contact.




It just shows how unreal the whole scenario is. Deep down everybody knows that if they leave then all their friends will disappear. So the whole friendship thing is based upon remaining a member of good standing. Walking in the spirit in RF generally means complying with all the rules and regulations.

It is a closed community and is not real life. The longer you remain and have your friendship base there only, forsaking all others, the harder and more difficult it becomes to leave the cult.

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I know what you"re thinking....did I put 5 people out or 6?... I guess in all the excitement I kinda lost count myself...so the question is, do you feel lucky?...well do you, punk? - Clint Eastwood

dogmafree
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