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Merry Menagerie
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Registered: 05/10/2004

(Date Posted:19/10/2004 16:46:49)

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2919/reasons.htmlYou are not allowed to buy girl scout cookies - are they hash cookies?You are not allowed to be a cheer leader - well there goes my career then doh!!! LOLJesus did not die on a cross he died on an upright pole...don't you know LOLYou cannot play chess - but I'm really good at chessOnly officially approved sexual practices are allowed in marriage - What the???? Ummmmmmmm say no moreYou cannot feed you dog dogfood with blood products in it - huh?And we thought the Revs were bad!! ROFL!!!!!!
Jojo the Lion
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Registered: 09/02/2004


(Date Posted:19/10/2004 23:05:58)

8. There is no hell (there is only there is only the grave)

-This one does not seem so bad to me. There are some revs who agree on this too.

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And here I sit so patiently waiting to find out what price / I have to pay to get out of going through all these things twice

MothandRust
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Registered: 27/02/2004


(Date Posted:24/10/2004 16:28:10)

Hey thanks for the new look room and features... LUV the use of the good ol' Rev icons; it gives it some flavour. They think they're so different, the RCI and RF but it's all brushed with the same tar. The RF logo is blowing even more of it's own trumpets... out of its $%&!**. I have not come across another church that seems to be so in love with it's logos. They would jump on anyone that dared to wear a cross or a dove or put a fish on their car... or use the fish symbol in anyway... God forbid looking like a pentecostal or a catholic. I remember buying every new Revival shirt or Revival bumper sticker with so much excitement at xmas camps and rallys.. that's so sad.

and no... you'll probably not get any money from me. I'm a stinge. I remember in my last days at the Rev I used to enjoy not titthing anymore... they owe me dammit. I should go back and take a large amout of bricks from the walls for all the building fund money i've given. You're right Merry, so many people expect a free ride from their church as if it's government funded or something. There really has to be some sort of contribution from members to keep things running.

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“The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic” - Darwin
hojusaram
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Registered: 05/04/2003


(Date Posted:25/10/2004 06:52:42)

I agree with H&S that people can contribute to their church if they want to.  But ti demand 10% of their wage (they usually demand 10% of the gross wage before tax too) is just ridiculous.  Especially if you're poor.  I remember when I was on the dole I used to feel obliged to give 10%.  Here I was trying to pay my rent and eat while giving 10% of my dole money to the church.  Jeesh!!!  Talk about sucked in.

The tithe to Israel was a type of tax anyway.  Israel was a nation not a small organisation within a nation.  So the Old Testament precedent of a tithe doesn't apply to a church situation anyway.  It's funny how churches like the RCI/RF and AOG, etc all take the Old Testament laws that suit them and ignore the ones that don't.  "God demands you pay 10% of your money to us, no tattoos, etc...would you like a ham sandwich or buy a shirt made of a weave of two different types of cloth?" 

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Stay home Sundays and save 10%.
Merry Menagerie
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Registered: 05/10/2004


(Date Posted:26/10/2004 05:04:12)

Well back when I was broke I gave 10% of my time instead and no one said anything.  In fact I don't ever remember anyone sitting there and counting what I put in the bag to be quite honest nor do I remember anyone taking any notice if I tithed or not....so TBH I have no idea what you are talking about Hoj.
hojusaram
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Registered: 05/04/2003


(Date Posted:26/10/2004 07:30:20)

What I am talking about was when I was in the AOG, not the RCs.  Sorry, I should have made that clear.

And it wasn't that anyone was looking over my shoulder watching what I put in the bag.  It was that they told me that God wanted my 10% no matter how much I earned.  In fact, there was even an element within the church that said that I should tithe with greater vigour when poor so that God would bring me out of my financial hardship.  I am talking about the pressure of the teaching not individual leaders or people.  They taught us what God 'wanted' and then it was up to us to apply it.  I was trying to be a good Christian as defined by the teachings in my AOG church.  What I am tryning to say is that the teaching was flawed, not that someone stood over me.  But the the teaching was pushed within my AOG church.  We were even told to give to missions OVER AND ABOVE our regular tithe and not instead of it. 

Tithing was something that was not enforced on an individual level, but we were certainly made to feel guilty for not doing it.  And I promise you, I didn't want to let God down.  I have since realised that God doesn't need my money.  And when I was really poor (relative to Australia anyway) then it was then that the church should have been giving money to me, not the other way around.

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MothandRust
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Registered: 27/02/2004


(Date Posted:26/10/2004 07:41:02)

I remember being 'told off' from the platform during one of those 'make you feel guilty tithing talks' that we were a bit slack because we didn't even tithe 10% of our time. I added up the average time most of us sat through hot sunday afternoon etc. and found that we were actually... Can ya feel that legalistic vibe. Some of those gung ho house-leaders (myself included) gave such shoddy and unsubltle unproffesional talks that Im amazed the assemblies put up with us. Listening to a leader prattle on for 45 minutes stringing together about 60 scriptures to back up between the two different types of love has stunted me forever.

They get so desparate to find content for a talk that it usually has to be filled with hundreds of analogies... if I hear the analogy of the Hot boiled froggy or army analogies once more in my life I will fill my ears with silicon.... sorry about the rant.

I remember the 'look' i got from various people handing the bag around when I, again, did not put money into it. Once I put a $2 scratchy into it... because it amused me to do stuff like that. It became forever one of those dumb pastor jokes that got menioned every second week... and I was sorry I did it because of the cheesy jokes it inspired... the things ya gotta do to entertain yourself at Revival meetings.

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Merry Menagerie
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