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Didaktikon
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Rank:Posterior Maximus I

Score: 17390
Registered: 29/08/2007

(Date Posted:17/01/2008 00:22:33)

All,

Anyone remotely interested in reading a handful of perfect examples of how not to interpret Scripture (or perhaps, "How to Read the Bible without Engaging the Brain") could do worse than to browse through Brad Smith's offerings at the BRF website! I've just had a look at his latest piece, "God's True Rest and Refreshing"; and I was actually laughing out loud before I finished the second paragraph

But to be serious for a moment, there seems to be something of a trend appearing in the recent published works of TRF pastors, and the trend isn't positive. So how do you RF-er's do it?! How do you allow yourselves to be led by men who are so very clearly lacking in the simple skills and intellectual honesty that's needed to adequately handle God's Word?

Amazed!

Ian



(Message edited by Uncoolman On 18/04/2008 19:51:09)

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RE:Light reading
(Date Posted:17/01/2008 00:57:18)

Yes Ian it's very apparent that these pastors have never been to any theologian college, as you know they refute these schools of learning now thats wisdom for you!
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Reply To my_dogs_on_fire
(Date Posted:17/01/2008 01:18:28)

Yes Ian it's very apparent that these pastors have never been to any theologian college, as you know they refute these schools of learning now thats wisdom for you!

Woof!

Here's the interesting thing, one doesn't need to be a graduate of a theological college to be a half-decent (or in respects, competent) expositor of Scripture. One simply needs to be honest and rigorous in one's research. However, in my opinion every pastor should have a solid theological education behind him or her in order to function in such a capacity. After all, how many people would be prepared to take their sick children to a "quack" -- to someone who has never studied medicine and proven him/herself competent in its practice -- for treatment? Not moi, that's for sure! So should the healing of the soul be any different?

Anyway, Brad's small essays at the BRF website simply serve to demonstrate that those who choose to remain ignorant can't make others who are equally as ignorant (or worse), wise. I challenge anyone with half a brain to read the proof-texts quoted by Brad, and his subsequent commentary, and walk away firmly convinced that "this means that!"

Blessings,

Ian



(Message edited by Didaktikon On 17/01/2008 18:45:44)

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RE:Light reading
(Date Posted:17/01/2008 02:22:06)

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Reply To is_aimoo_guest
(Date Posted:17/01/2008 17:48:02)

You are banging your head against a very hard brick wall there.. This "Brad Smith" obviously has very little or negligent understanding of Hebrew script..

Sure, but I don't mind "banging" my head in this way, as it eventually brings results (sometimes you just have to wear them down)

I think it a given that not a single Revivalist pastor has any competence in either Hebrew or Greek (actually, it's an established fact); consequently, I don't expect them to be able to read and exegete Scripture in the original. But surely these men could approach biblical passages with some empathy for the range of contexts that come into play before they start twisting things this way and that in an effort to make 2 + 2 = 11! 

Further, I don't think too many people here would dispute the fact that their are some pretty "thick" Revivalist pastors getting around. Look to the GRC for starters, they seem to be able to breed them by the bushel! But Brad Smith isn't such a person. Opiniated? Sure. Dogmatic? Sure. Stupid? Not by a long shot! And that's the particularly galling thing: that an otherwise intelligent man can approach Scripture in such a cavalier fashion, to wrest and wrench meanings that were (and are) completely foreign to the clear intent of the various authors as they wrote. 

Do you know? The cynic is me would offer that if a study was undertaken into the effects of the Revivalist "tongues" dogma upon one's intelligence, the data would clearly support the finding that the phenomenon causes reduced brain function! What other concludion could you draw?! 

Blessings,

Ian 

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RE:Light reading
(Date Posted:12/02/2008 02:38:38)

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RE:Light reading
(Date Posted:12/02/2008 16:18:34)

Hi gang,
We who speak against Revivalist dogma are classed as "Heretics" by them. Well it has been officially announced by the RF Geelong group (such as it is, about six currently attending) that I am now a Heretic.
Halleluia

brolga

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Reply To is_aimoo_guest
(Date Posted:12/02/2008 17:27:45)

Hi Ian,

Had a read of your new essay on Acts and I want to congratulate you on presenting such a good and solid hermeneutic... Well done !!

Also had a thought about your main "Please Consider" site and I thought that it might be appropriate if either yourself or Drew compose and include a short historical essay in your own wording and research on the backkground history of the "Revival Fellowhips/Centres" ... Nothing laborious and long but a general outline..
I feel that "Pleaseconsider" needs an introduction to educate a world wide audience that in some way alerts and informs and identifies more clearly of who these centes and fellowships are. The site in its present form fits well with us who " have been there " but for the curious and interested seeker, I see a need for a better clarity that would set your site apart from other  " revivalist " web sites and also give you some clearer disassociation as well...

Anyway Ian, well done on your essay... blessings

Eric
Eric, chaire!

Thanks for the positive feedback, the "thing" seems to be generating a range of reviews (