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(Date Posted:11/07/2008 22:21:34)

Quotes from Darryl William's talk on the shunning of ex-members
*Click link below to listen to the original recording.


"People have left us... how dare they leave us. Now they have this wonderful chance to start afresh, and they can't get it right either, supposedly."

"We don't go to their weddings, we don't have them at our weddings... we don't have anything more to do with them, otherwise we're being unscriptural. We have family members that have left; we sometimes have to have them back at our house. We don't have their friends though, we don't have their church members, we don't have to invite them back to our houses."

"I'm not saying that we're the best, although I think we are. This is a fellowship second to none."

"Don't see them, don't invite them, break your friendships, finish your relationships, it's all over now."

"If they have a baby, good luck to them, but it has nothing to do with you anymore."

"If they have a wedding, good luck to them, but don't go to it, if you get an invitation, refuse it. You might have been best friends - you have nothing more to do with them"

- Melbourne 'Pastor' Darryl Williams


Click here to listen to "Darryl-Williams---Dont-go-to-their-weddings"




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(Date Posted:12/07/2008 08:32:11)


"If they have a baby, good luck to them, but it has nothing to do with you anymore."

"If they have a wedding, good luck to them, but don't go to it, if you get an invitation, refuse it. You might have been best friends - you have nothing more to do with them"

- Melbourne 'Pastor' Darryl Williams

Ohhh, that's some nasty nasty stuff... Who is this Darryl Williams anyway? Does he still hold to this dispicable shunning belief? Is he RF now? Was he RCI?

I compiled that audio into a fun little video - enjoy.


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RE:Darryl Williams tells church to shun (Audio - '95)
(Date Posted:12/07/2008 09:28:33)

The quotes were from the infamous Adelaide Revival Fellowship meeting at the Vogue (15/2/98), in which 'pastor', Darryl Williams, says some controversial things.

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RE:Darryl Williams encourages shunning (Audio - '98)
(Date Posted:19/07/2008 04:19:03)

My husband and I are the very people who Daryl was speaking about at this particular talk. We had stopped going to the RF in Janurary, but we were invited to (and happily went) to a good friend of mine's daughter's 1st birthday party. We must have been naive, but we wondered why there was some sort of tension there when we walked in. Then it finally happened - a big blow up hapened between my friend, her brother and his wife (who happened to be Daryls daughter). They said that they had to leave because WE were there! It was horrid and my friends daughter's birthday was ruined. Had we known or predicted what would have happened we would never have gone. Needless to say - the next day Daryl gave his now famous 'talk' and my poor parents (who still attended the RF at the time) had to sit through and endure the whole meeting knowing full well what he was actually referring to. It still blows me away to this day!!! 

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RE:Darryl Williams encourages shunning (Audio - '98)
(Date Posted:22/07/2008 20:07:58)

Its a long time since i have been called a poor parent

especially by a daughter ( and great mother ) as ( beauty) full as mine

LUV U heaps
dad
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RE:Darryl Williams encourages shunning (Audio - '98)
(Date Posted:23/07/2008 04:39:45)

Awww shucks!! Must have been the wonderful parents that I had growing up, who made me who I am today. Love, apprecite and miss you heaps xxxx
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RE:Darryl Williams encourages shunning (Audio - '98)
(Date Posted:23/07/2008 19:53:00)

Honestly, what awful ranting and raving, quite unbelievable. How on earth do people put up with this kind of stuff? Fear I suppose.

I sometimes wonder if people who can say things like that make the people closest to them unhappy. I remember some RF wives who were not treated very well by their "oversight" husbands, but they take it. I guess they feel it goes with the territory.

All very sad.
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(Date Posted:25/07/2008 20:07:20)

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My husband and I are the very people who Daryl was speaking about at this particular talk. We had stopped going to the RF in Janurary, but we were invited to (and happily went) to a good friend of mine's daughter's 1st birthday party. We must have been naive, but we wondered why there was some sort of tension there when we walked in. Then it finally happened - a big blow up hapened between my friend, her brother and his wife (who happened to be Daryls daughter). They said that they had to leave because WE were there! It was horrid and my friends daughter's birthday was ruined. Had we known or predicted what would have happened we would never have gone. Needless to say - the next day Daryl gave his now famous 'talk' and my poor parents (who still attended the RF at the time) had to sit through and endure the whole meeting knowing full well what he was actually referring to. It still blows me away to this day!!! 






Hi, thanks for responding. I'm curious to know whether Williams has since apologised for spewing this dispicable diatribe ten years ago. I wonder if he heard the recording again now would feel an absolute idiot for preaching such vile or would he nod and smile like an idiot saying 'amen'all the way? I'd like to give the benefit of the doubt and hope that he cringes whenever he remembers being as soulless as this.

The hate and fear you can hear in his voice is surely something RF try to avoid now isn't it? When I heard this recording I assumed it was RCIers talking about the members that left their ranks and their new doctrine of unforgiveness, but I was surprised (and not surprised also) that it came from a preacher from RF. I know this sort of violent 'shunning' isn't so vigorously yelled at other Revival Fellowship assemblies, and I bet many would argue that this sort of shunning is discouraged nowadays. The recording was only ten years ago and I remember being the sort of person who would have agreed with his views on how to treat people who left our church, or cult, or whatever the hey you want to call it.

Even if this isn't spat from the pulpits anymore, you know it's sitting there quietly under the surface. It's mellowed now but the groundwork has been laid. "If they're not with us they either should be or never were. If they choose not to come back then keep subtley hinting to them that they are missed..." and then not so subtley suggest the world is ending soon so they better change their minds quick.

The Revivalists (like countless other churches) truly believe that their slack-jawed hackneyed interpretation of bible text and home written fellowship rules are the closest thing to what they believe the church originators (and God) would have their lives and meetings run. To leave their fold should obviously be an action that deserves pity, prayer and a dose of distain. Such a belief set will keep them labelled as a sect because they willfully choose to bring discord to family and friends that quite rightly choose to leave their faux fold.

So I would be interested in knowing if an apology was forthcoming from DW. Did he repent publically or does he still exist as a leader of people with this perverse mindset at his core?

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RE:Darryl Williams encourages shunning (Audio - '98)
(Date Posted:27/07/2008 04:57:36)

I am surprised that this talk has emerged after 10 years

I doubt whether Daryl has apologised for the talk, because probably 95% of people hearing it thought that it was a great Ra Ra talk  ( go on give it to them Daryl )  See thats why a lot of people stay at the RF out of fear of   A) they will lose their salvation if they leave   and B) They will lose all their friends    and if you have been an attendee for a number of years then in the main they are all the friends they have
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