Hiya... forgive my... busy brooding!

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HI THERE WARRIORS,......

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Good MORNING SUNSHINE.

It's always a good feeling when a new person comes along to our meetings "bluuurk" - I mean, forum.   (GRC habits die hard. LOL.)

People like your self who talk about working through the recovery stages in post GRC life are really a great help to those working through it, while still trapped within Noel Hollins' psychological prison.  I would like to hear your TESTIMONIAL too.

The more GRC members read about 'recovering from Spiritual Abuse', the less time THEY will spend and the less pain they will experience, when exiting the GRC.

"HOLY & SINFUL"     If you want to be down in the mouth and brood go ahead. I was only trying to make you feel that there is a flip side to being upset and sad with all that n.h. has bestowed upon us all. Try and spend more time thinking positive by moving on. Reaching out into greener pastures e.g. Do positive mores in your life that will make you see past all this sh**/ t

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"HOLY & SINFUL" If you want to be down in the mouth and brood go ahead. I was only trying to make you feel that there is a flip side to being upset and sad with all that n.h. has bestowed upon us all. Try and spend more time thinking positive by moving on. Reaching out into greener pastures e.g. Do positive mores in your life that will make you see past all this sh**/ t

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Reply to : MORNING SUNSHINEHI THERE WARRIORS,......Good MORNING SUNSHINE.It's always a good feeling when a new person comes along to our meetings"bluuurk"- I mean, forum. (GRC habits die hard. LOL.)People like your self who talk about working through the recovery stagesin post GRC life are really a great help to those workingthrough it,whilestill trapped within Noel Hollins' psychological prison. I would like to hear your TESTIMONIAL too.The more GRC members read about 'recovering from Spiritual Abuse', the less timeTHEYwill spend and the less pain they will experience, when exiting the GRC.

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Reply to : MORNING SUNSHINE"HOLY & SINFUL" If you want to be down in the mouth and brood go ahead. I was only trying to make you feel that there is a flip side to being upset and sad with all that n.h. has bestowed upon us all. Try and spend more time thinking positive by moving on. Reaching out into greener pastures e.g. Do positive mores in your life that will make you see past all this sh**/ tNo worries man, great to have you on board. Don't worry about me... the surf is down the road, KFC gravy still tastes great, and my office chair is comfly. The family and happy and healthy... what more could a man want. Lots of positives. The brooding thing is just some kinky fun...ha. Glad to see you've taken the Caps Lock off.

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Good morning 'Sunny Boy'

Yes.....  well they can seem like rough nuts at first, but when you get to know them, they really are smooth cherry's.  Just remember to spit out the pips.

I think this is also the result of our GRC contamination.  When a person first joins the RC's, they get absolutely  "LOVE"  bombed by everyone!!!   Members make out to the unsuspecting converts that they (the GRCer's) are a lovely bunch.  People come from everywhere to shake the newcomer's hand and introduce themselves.  All just a big competition and a display of sickening hypocrisy though, if you ask me.  Typically, an early "LOVE Bomber" who shakes hands, steels his 'brothers' property.  Another "LOVE Bomber" is   -----ing another parishioner behind his wife's back.  All this from the ministry, and then along come the "commoners".  God knows what they've been up to???  Anyhow, here on the forum it's the opposite.  No hypocrisy!!!  People take you as they see you.  Unfortunately, sometimes it takes a little while to work out if 'newbies' are legit or not.  Often we regulars want to make that decision sooner rather than later.  Anyhow, it all gets sorted out eventually.

My mobile number is   0407 946 267   and my email address is   revival-assist@hotmail.com  

Perhaps you would like to join in with a few of us who are meeting up down at the farm on Saturday the 26th of March for a B.B.Q.???  You could turn up without anyone being able to work out that you are "Morning Sunshine" too.  There's a notice thread about the BBQ near the top of the GRC room index.  I'm thinking it will be the last time I organise anything like this, so join in if you can.   Cheers.

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Reply to : HolyandSinfulReply to : MORNING SUNSHINE"HOLY & SINFUL" If you want to be down in the mouth and brood go ahead. I was only trying to make you feel that there is a flip side to being upset and sad with all that n.h. has bestowed upon us all. Try and spend more time thinking positive by moving on. Reaching out into greener pastures e.g. Do positive mores in your life that will make you see past all this sh**/ tNo worries man, great to have you on board. Don't worry about me... the surf is down the road, KFC gravy still tastes great, and my office chair is comfly. The family and happy and healthy... what more could a man want. Lots of positives. The brooding thing is just some kinky fun...ha. Glad to see you've taken the Caps Lock off.Thanks for your reply team

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G'day Sunshine,

I am fairly new around here too.  Have been watching for a while so I dont get ambushed to badly.  Most are harmless like these guys.  I am ex-GRC to -left bout 10 years ago.  Always up for chat or e-mail.  Hope all is well.

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I am fairly new around here too.  Have been watching for a while so I dont get ambushed to badly.  Most are harmless like these guys.  I am ex-GRC to -left bout 10 years ago.  Always up for chat or e-mail.  Hope all is well.

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Hi and hmm, perhaps some regulars here (me?) are a bit too cocky and flippant. This thread is a bit of a wake-up call. Thanks.

Have your say...

I would hope that new members and posters to the room would be comfortable to join in on a convo; start up a new conversation thread, or even Introduce yourself to us with your story, here: http://www.aimoo.com/forum/categories.cfm?id=443300&CategoryID=148724

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Feel comfortable about posting here, yea right, Ive been out of so called fellowship for 5 years now, put up with the judging there from the so called elite, soon as someone new posts here they get hammered, I think its safer to read, there must be a untouchable club happening on this forum, pity I'm sure you guys would have like to here my testamony about getting kicked out, could'nt have my say in the GRC, not comfortable here either.

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EEk... I'm very sorry you feel that way. Obviously some of us are doing something wrong here. Thanks for posting and letting us know.

That you feel you can't share your story is our loss... and a loss for the people who may get some comfort from reading it. Don't feel you should 'punish' us for the sake of those who need to read your story. Think about it eh?

I'm fascinated by the amount of people who may be reading but are not comfortable posting. Could you break your silence just this once in this thread to tell us why?

• Tell us what you think could be improved on here
• What problems do you have with the forum
• Who are you sick of seeing on too often (careful, I am sensitive)
• Do you hate the moderator?
• Is the colour all wrong?
• What could we do to make you more welcome

OK, bring on the criticism... positive and negative... let's do it.

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Feel comfortable about posting here, yea right, Ive been out of so called fellowship for 5 years now, put up with the judging there from the so called elite, soon as someone new posts here they get hammered, I think its safer to read, there must be a untouchable club happening on this forum, pity I'm sure you guys would have like to here my testamony about getting kicked out, could'nt have my say in the GRC, not comfortable here either.

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OUCH!!!

I second H & S's post.  I would like to hear your story.  Please?

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Reply to : MORNING SUNSHINE"3 SECOND KISSES" No I am not a Doctor. I had some respect for your many comments that I HAVE READ lately since I have been following this forum in the last 2 months. But I DON'T LIKE THIS ONE . I'm a well seasoned BACKSLIDER. And many years to get back on track. All I am trying to do is short cut your way out of this strangle hold that N.H has put many hundreds of beautiful people into. After all these years looking back, it really is very clear TRY AND KEEP IN A POSITIVE ZONE. It's not always easy. BEING HAPPY is a better feeling than being SAD.(Just trying to cut corners.). With all your past comments you know all this anyway. I,m your ALI. 3 KISSES. Stop pulling this team member down. Revival Assist didn't. David saw what I was getting at. We are going to win if we stick together. Enough said.

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3 kisses. Thanks for your return messages to the above. Please explain to me being   a newbie ( as  you say ) as to why  you, mot mot , and H&S, THOSE OF YOU  that have been on this forum for some time ,seem to want to take the "Mickey" out of those WHO take the courage to come on board. Wouldn't  you very much appreciate the fact that you have ALI,S Wouldn't they be an asset to what this forum is wanting to achieve.I don't get any of  the sarcastic remarks from Revival Assist. David. Playing around like like this doesn't help people seeking support who maybe in a wilderness or trying to gather strength for the journey they are having or about to have. These people  you need to show a stronge testamont to. Not clown about. I WON'T IN FUTURE CONTRIBUTE if I have to surcome to this sort of behaviour. YOU ARE ONLY PLAYING INTO n.h. HANDS. DON'T DO IT.  We are not here for you guys  to judge what we say . That is not good team bonding. Again thankyou for your last comments to.3 kissesxxx. LET'S BE A GOOD STRONGE TESTAMONT TO OUR CAUSE.

dear anonymous,

While I can't  nor will speak for others , I must make comment of your mention of me ( motmot ), and with all politeness, may I ask , when have I ever critized any-one on this forum other than Naugthy Noel Hollins? I'm not offended, I just feel you may have your wires crossed as to who has said what. In fact , maybe you would be surprised to know just how close I am affiliated with David and how much I wish to be of help to those in need. If one is not ready to help,  then when will they be ready ?

 Have a read of my post  in    ..... " FAREWELL BBQ " ,   meanwhile ,please don't take to heart some post of critizm,I believe a lot of it derives from the hurt that Noel created. It sound to me that you could be the very type of person we need on this forum...... some-one with a heart and a soul ...

 Come-On !

geee..... the last thing I would ever do is to try to ever offend any one....( other than that toxic religion GRC )....and I didn't see any personal relivance to Morning Sunshine other than something said made me think of it.

   I don't even know if morning sunshine is male or female. If you are offended over humour, then how will you handle the criticism and abuse from some of the posts that arrive here ?

    I think you may have simply miss-understood me . Still , Please accept my humble opolgies for anything I may have posted that could have hurt your feelings or integrity.

yours sincerely,

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Didn't do that properly either. T's me MORNING SUNSHINE. '"BLUUUR" GO ON SAY IT YOU GUYS GO ON HAVE A GO. THIS IS THE LAST TIME SO MAKE THE MOST OF IT. BUT WATCH IT I DO GET AFFENDED HAHAHA. HERE WE DO. You first H@Sinful you better go (surfing or have some KFC)It might be safer.

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1. You have to be logged in to have your avatar appear.
2. "seem to want to take the "Mickey" out of those WHO  come on board" - Who else have we 'Mickeyed'? You came on in capitals and said, "ARE WE GOING TO BE HAPPY TODAY." which sounded really bizarre... it's just a bizarre way to initiate a thread. You admit to being new to this stuff. Well, first thing you should know is that we are only human here and all individuals. No one person running the show. Someone's moderating the site but all she does is delete stuff every now and again. So a couple of us responded to your perky initial greeting in a flippant way. No crime and there have been apologies.
3. "David, playing into Noel's hands" - Noel is no evil genius and I doubt David is doing that. I've heard people say that before and it sounds a bit of an overestimation of Unholy Noelly. I don't think David deserves that sort of propaganda.
4. "We are not here for you guys  to judge what we say" - Fair enough, but I do think the interaction is better than talking into the void. You seem to have thrown a fair bit of judgement about yourself very quickly. It's a motley crew here but the only crew we've got. Different strengths and weaknesses. Different agendas sometimes too. Your point is well taken and I hope we are more welcoming in future.
5. "This is the last time so make the most of it" - Wow, the pressure's on!
6. "GO ON SAY IT YOU GUYS GO ON HAVE A GO" - I think perhaps you are hoping we will have a go? I dunno... you're kinda jumpy judging by your posts so far, but it's really not fair to judge people, especially by what they say on an open public forum.
   

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Well well MOT MOT. I'm sorry mate, couldn't find any RELEVANCE in that stupid POST with that dry humour. Found about as much respect to that waste of space as you obviously did of mine. Thought you were a mature contributor. IF YOU COULDN'T SEE THE VALUE IN WHAT MY HELP SO FAR IS . Which comes from deep painful overcomings over time (not now )THEN PLEASE DON'T READ MY POSTS. THANKYOU. AND I AM NOT HEAR FOR ON GOING CHALLANGES. GOT BETTER THINGS TO DO. Don't have the right "tools " to be a grandma. Maybe you might fitthat role better.

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oh for crying out loud will you! lighten up! and who cares if it should be hear in this thread or not grandmas letter, it gave us all a laugh and laughter is the best medicine!!

now M.S if you dont like it ,stop posting or reading ok. u keep sayin u have a story!!! well bloody tell it. if you think your experience will help someone through their trying time and you have ans answer maybe then tell it ok.  we all use this forum to vent our frustrations on things of past, present and probably future happenings in our lives that are envolved around the GRC. you just need to be able to discern the jokularity from the attacks. i to have been attacked on here but really i dont give a hoot as we all have experiences with ppl that some of us cant stand and vice versa.

so young one let the force be with you and let it rip!!!!!

Well, that all went well didn't it. NOT... Another happy customer? Please don't take all this the wrong way... By the way... The capitals are really bad manners in a forum (word to the wise - it's the textual equivalent of screaming at people and no one likes to be screamed at)

Sorry H@S YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH MY RESPONSES, BUT NEVER THE LESS MY AIM IS TO MOVE ON AND NOT TO KEEP DWELLING ON AND IN THE LIFE I CAME OUT OF. THE SUNSHINE AND LIFE IS MUCH BETTER AWAY FROM ALL THAT CRAP. I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO DO THE SAME.YOU WILL NOT CHANGE NOEL HOLLINS PREACHING AND RUNNING HIS ASSEMBLYS IN A MILLIONS YEARS JUST LEAVE IT ALONE.ALL I STARTED OUT TO DO WAS TO GET PEOPLE TO BE STRONGE AND MOVE ON. I DON'T NEED TO SAY ANY MORE. LOOK FORWARD NOT BACKWARDS FOLKS.MUCH EASIER ROAD. IF THAT ISN'T GOOD SOUND ADVICE THEN YOU WILL ALWAYS BE ENSTRANGLED TO WHAT YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF e,g. GRC. MARK MY WORDS. GOOD TO SEE DAVID IS NOT RELYING ON THIS FORUM IN THE FUTURE AS MUCH. IT IS LIKE OPENING OLD WOUNDS.THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THIS FORUM IS GOOD TO A POINT BUT DON'T GET ADDICTED. OVER AND OUT. DON'T REPLY I WON'T BE LODGING ON AGAIN. GO AND FIND BETTER THINGS TO DO EVERYONE e.g play sport ,join clubs , and meet new people, do more surfing, weeek ends away, sailing e.g. JOIN THE BEAUTIFUL WORLD OUT THERE THERE ARE LOVELY PEOPLE TO MEET. GOD BLESS.

I know what you mean... a pastor changing his mind and preaching differently is a miracle in any church. I don't think anyone here seriously thinks we can change Noel's mind but no one will leave it alone... as long as he peddles the crap there will be a need to challenge it and FLUSH it. It's time to make a stand, even a MILLION years from now.

THIS FORUM IS GOOD TO A POINT BUT DON'T GET ADDICTED. Fair comment... there's much better things to be addicted to, Go join a sports club? Meet new people? Yep! In other words, live a normal life and try to avoid mind controlling cults. It may seem that people who post on this site do nothing but sit in front of the screen waiting for someone to tell them to be happy? (wait, don't answer that)

DON'T REPLY I WON'T BE LODGING ON AGAIN. I hope you do come back and try again if you have a story to tell... Hmm, I'm compelled to get in the last word anyway to someone who isn't even reading the site. Hmm, maybe I do need to join some more sporting clubs... Tennis anyone?

 

yes, well. It is always good to have a place where other people understand what you have been through. It never ceases to amaze me how easily some people get over things, and how difficult it is for others. Even last night I had some well meaning christian friend tell me I should ask God to heal my depression. Okay, I have been a christian since 1970. Do they REALLY think that thought had not occurred to me. Truth is, some people never get over bad treatment and loss, and no amount of sporting clubs will help them.

I am just glad there are caring, understanding and funny ppl (like H&S who totally cracks me up, and unkoolman) on this forum who care about others and are always ready to lend a hand by giving a word of encouragment in dark times. Not so impressed with the judgemental ones. I know when I first got the boot in 1993 there was nothing like this forum, and if there had been I am sure my experience would not have been so painful and lonely. Thanks guys for being there. 

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YOU WILL NOT CHANGE NOEL HOLLINS PREACHING AND RUNNING HIS ASSEMBLYS IN A MILLIONS YEARS JUST LEAVE IT ALONE

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Yeah you are right, we will not change Noel BUT when he backslides someone, they will now have a place to voice their side of the story, right any wrongs, read that they are not alone that others have been in the same position and have gone on and prospered. in the same way that Noel is not a defeatist in trying to justify to his several hundred saved souls that they are the one and only true church on this earth, we are also not going to be defeated. We will continue to post and pour tirade after tirade on Noel Hollins and his pastors and their misdemeanors. Once we were nothing but a scattered bunch of socalled backsliders in the eyes of the GRC, but now we are a united force, daily writing of our trials and tribulations of our past GRC life. When we write something, someone else reads it and hey it makes sense to them and gives them strength because the same has happened to them. And Noel HATES this because it weakens his so called ministry.

Only a supporter of Noel and the GRC would come on here and say, " YOU WILL NOT CHANGE NOEL HOLLINS PREACHING AND RUNNING HIS ASSEMBLYS IN A MILLIONS YEARS JUST LEAVE IT ALONE".

Good night SUNSHINE.......................Another snag on the BBQ.pass the sauce.

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You are dead right in what you are saying. You got me wrong, I CAN'T stand the pompous creature n.h.I GET FRUSTRATED when he gets away with so much damage that he has done to so many families including mine. I am certainly not one of them. HE just keeps going. And souls get fooled into his trap.

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Hi MS,

You survived the initiation process! Now have a bath and type in tongues and your'e all done... lol. Welcome back to the forum.

Trap is the right word. People are trapped when there is seemingly no way out. He's done this through typical religious fear mongering. Noel himself is a product of christian conditioning that has mutated because of his own monstrous ego. He believes what he's preaching and will bend any basic ethic to promote it and discard any members who defy it.

Sadder still is when people are trapped and then convinced that life is better inside the trap than out. It's called a fool's paradise.

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Reply to : AnonymousFeel comfortable about posting here, yea right, Ive been out of so called fellowship for 5 years now, put up with the judging there from the so called elite, soon as someone new posts here they get hammered, I think its safer to read, there must be a untouchable club happening on this forum, pity I'm sure you guys would have like to here my testamony about getting kicked out, could'nt have my say in the GRC, not comfortable here either.

"EEk... I'm very sorry you feel that way. Obviously some of us are doing something wrong here. Thanks for posting and letting us know.

That you feel you can't share your story is our loss... and a loss for the people who may get some comfort from reading it. Don't feel you should 'punish' us for the sake of those who need to read your story. Think about it eh?

I'm fascinated by the amount of people who may be reading but are not comfortable posting. Could you break your silence just this once in this thread to tell us why?

• Tell us what you think could be improved on here
• What problems do you have with the forum
• Who are you sick of seeing on too often (careful, I am sensitive)
• Do you hate the moderator?
• Is the colour all wrong?
• What could we do to make you more welcome

OK, bring on the criticism... positive and negative... let's do it."

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Tell us what you think could be improved on here

- Thanks to the new moderator the site has been improved with the list of 'interesting topics' at the top of the page (GRC page).

- I would like to see more stories, but I know why many people hesitate...same reason I hold back, I can't be identified.  I know this forum was the clincher for me when I found it, even with all the rubbish.

• What problems do you have with the forum

- The only problem I have is the rubbish...when things get too personal and judgements are thrown all around (sounds like the place I left).  Isn't it possible to inform of the hypocrisies (there are many) without the dirt.

• Who are you sick of seeing on too often (careful, I am sensitive)

- Not sick of anyone.

• Do you hate the moderator?

- No

• Is the colour all wrong?

- I like blue...

• What could we do to make you more welcome

- treat newbies as innocent until proven guilty...maybe more people will share their stories if they're not 'judged'  immediately.

Now, for a bit of my story...I left the GRC within the last year after attending for over 15 years. I started questioning a few years ago while waiting for certain situations to be dealt with. They were never dealt with properly.  Like I said this forum convinced me that it wasn't just me experiencing the hypocrisy.

Leaving was hard, as this had been my whole life for so long. I don't care about the shunning, as I used to do it...I do feel sorry though, for the way I treated people.  Since leaving, I feel freedom rather than fear and I look to the Lord rather than the pastor. I don't doubt my salvation or speaking in tongues...I've had too many experiences to doubt. All I want is what I found when I first got saved...truth and peace...I have found it...again...

...keep asking...

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Hiya... forgive my... busy brooding!

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Ha Morning Sunshine look at that!

It's 18 months later and I'm still busy brooding and you're still your crazy cheerful self.

I think we should do a blood transfusion on each other and make one normally balanced human being.

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Hi Mothy,You are a darling,..Thankyou for your expression of affection,Your endearing words,just make me feel so one with you.Ha!!!!Geeezzz Mothy,I don't fancy (your brooding blood with my cheerful red blood cells) my boy.Can't have any contamination (Ha,Ha,)Then of course,Moth you can be crazy and cheerful yourself.For goodness sake.."were you bored today"..?????All the posts you put on here,today tells me, YOU should

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Those maching gun fired posts were my way of taking something and shaking it out of frustration!!!

This Qld cold has been weird. This flu has wacked me and it makes my tinnitus go off the richter scale.

This is where I go to vent 'cause if I stucky my head out of the window and screamed, I'd probably be locked away somewhere safe and medicated. sounds good actually.