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Re:To Ex GRC members only
(Date Posted:22/07/2009 03:26:29)
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Spangler
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Re:To Ex GRC members only
(Date Posted:22/07/2009 03:47:33)
And all the people said.AMEN.
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Aimoo Team
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Re:To Ex GRC members only
(Date Posted:22/07/2009 04:09:42)
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Uncoolman
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RE:To Ex GRC members only
(Date Posted:22/07/2009 04:18:16)
Hello all Ex-GRC visitors There have recently been new forum rules put into place. You may have noticed them as they're on the top of the thread in every room, and yes members who do not respect the rules, which are themselves about respect, they will be reminded via private messaging. Ian Included. However, and let me remind you all, once again, that a whole room has been made available on this forum for ex-GRC members only. I have retitled that room and encourage you to use it. All the forum is free for all members to post in but the EX-GRC Room is ONLY for ex-members of the GRC. In short, it is an IAN FREE room that Ian has agreed to avoid long ago, and can be found here - Go nuts!:
(Message edited by Uncoolman On 22/07/2009 04:57:04)
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Spangler
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Re:To Ex GRC members only
(Date Posted:22/07/2009 04:44:12)
To pilinut.Believe it or not I saw Mr Glitter at the apollo stadium in adelaide back in 1972 one of my school mates won some tickets.Great show pity he turned out to be a child molester.
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Didaktikon
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Reply To pilinut
(Date Posted:22/07/2009 05:09:21)
Sabs/Mannick.
Well ... why are you still showing up here, then? You have another site available that's specifically geared towards your twin loves: all things relating to "me", and the promotion of Revivalist heresies. "Lukie's" site is even pitched at an appropriate level of intellectual "sophistication" for you, so why keep popping in here? Unless it's to troll/trawl (you decide which word fits best) for the blissfully unsuspecting, whom you think you might be able to "convert"?
Ian
(Message edited by Didaktikon On 22/07/2009 18:13:16)
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Didaktikon
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Reply To Spangler
(Date Posted:22/07/2009 05:11:28)
'Evening, Spangler.
Well, I guess we had you pegged correctly from the start, huh?
Ian
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Didaktikon
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Reply To threeinchheels
(Date Posted:22/07/2009 05:14:53)
"Heels",
If this site makes you feel "insuperior", then why even bother coming here to bemoan the fact? And if you don't like discussions pertaining to Scripture, then ignore them. Simple really.
Ian
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Galien
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RE:To Ex GRC members only
(Date Posted:22/07/2009 13:03:08)
Hi tree inch heels
As Tom said, I thought this site was for ex GRC members and those who could offer help and encouragement..not those who "LORD" it over those of us who perhaps don't know every scripture by heart so as we can quote it BLAH BLAH BLAH .........in the scheme of things to most of us scriptures mean nothing and that is the truth,regardless of how anyone else feels,I spent 30 years in the GRC and when I left didn't know whether I believed in GOD or not..yes some of you may think that's sad and maybe it is (IN YOUR EYES) but I feel free and that's all that is important to me.
Doesn't seem a matter of it being sad, more like a sad indictment on the poxy organisation you were involved with. I think the most evil thing about the place was that they used social control to take away one's ability to think for oneself. By the time they finish with any of us, I'm surprised we even know our own names. I went through such a phase of burnout regarding being overtaught I couldn't even look at a bible for 2 years after I left. Even now I have to be really careful what I let in.
This place should be where people feel free to ask for help and advise
Yes it should. But like most things in the world there is a bit of fear behind it. The nasty tendrils of the beliefs of revival wrap themselves around the heart and brain in mysterious ways. For some the only way to hack them off is with the scriptures, and that works for some. But I find that what works best is something we never experienced much of in revival, love and understanding, and care for who we really are. It gobsnmacked me after I was kicked out how KIND all those heathen scum could be, in direct opposition to what revival people were like. These days, you treat me in a way that resembles revival bullying, I will come out swinging.
Today I have a great life.. Happy Children,great career,beautiful house I am truly (Dare I say the word BLESSED)
Pleased to hear that. Success is the best revenge. Always makes me feel good when I hear people have found a place of peace after leaving that scummy hellhole.
I actually feel sick when I see paragraph after paragraph attacking Sabrina or Brett or paragraph after paragraph attacking some poor poster who has had the balls to voice their opinion and maybe doesn't cut it amongst the "spiritual hierachy" who actually never even attended the GRC and don't have a clue as to what we have all been through.
Yes there are almost no words to explain the evil of spiritual abuse. The pain and betrayal are exquisite for some of us. The way it just rips one's heart out is a bloody disgrace to those who were supposed to be helping in our joy. Anyone who has not been betrayed in that way just does not understand, and I have given up expecting them to.
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Re:To Ex GRC members only
(Date Posted:22/07/2009 22:06:38)
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Didaktikon
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Reply To pilinut
(Date Posted:22/07/2009 22:18:32)
Sabs,
So you reckon I hate the fact that I was caught up in the RCI?! that such somehow is an embarrassment to me? What makes you think that? After all, if it wasn't for my Revivalist experience, I probably wouldn't be where I am today. As for your second quip, well, it seems clear enough that you still have a "fixation" for me (after all you talk to me or about me every opportunity that you get!)
But one thing that you said is true enough. Sadly, that you're not interested in learning about Christian doctrine. But, as with most things, your continuing ignorance on the subject is a choice.
Ian
P.S. I'm impressed by your "shoot and scoot" approach.
(Message edited by Didaktikon On 22/07/2009 22:30:04)
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LSlurper
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Re:To Ex GRC members only
(Date Posted:22/07/2009 23:38:48)
Hi LSlurper I am confused! Do I get the idea correctly? Ex-grc only? So those who have never been members, but have spent their lives affected by GRC are not welcome? LS x I'm sure the parameters are loose and would certainly include all people affected by the GRC in general, and possibly anyone who has something of note to say and have extremely good manners in which to say them. The only main exception it seems is Ian, while the heat's on! ;P
(Message edited by Uncoolman On 23/07/2009 00:46:16)
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Re:To Ex GRC members only
(Date Posted:23/07/2009 02:11:11)
Okay!!!
Good....got it! Phew!!!
LOL! Would be funny if former members of an isolationist cult leave only to form exclusionist groups 'em selves.
I understand the need to protect against trolls or whatever this "Ian" fellow is....not that I have seen any posts from anyone called Ian...oh well!!! Is that Spangler..or maybe Didaktikon...so much of this secret stuff goes completely over my head!
Thanks!
LS x
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RE:To Ex GRC members only
(Date Posted:23/07/2009 02:17:01)
Greetings Ian,
You remarked a while back (on several occasions) that ex CAI people are very strange lot and you had trouble figuring them out. You should have course excluded me because it is obvious I am more than normal, in fact using the prefix "ab" in the sense of "above", no doubt you would agree I am abnormal.
Of late after watching to hoo-ha from other quarters, can I say (somewhat tongue in cheek) that there are other strong contenders for "anything you can do loony, I can do more loony".
With the regurgitating/rehashing/reinterpreting of scripture to fit the "tongues saved me" doctrine diced/sliced and julienned to suit why only Pentecostals know the way in part, but Revivalists are the "piece de resistance", I notice that the babbling mimicry, and the obvious falsehoods of so-called interpretations and prophesies and total lack of credibility that modern day so called speaking and/or praying in tongues that has no similarity whatsoever to that manifested in Acts or 1 Corinthians, got quickly bypassed by Luke et al.
I remain non-orthodox, with a strong dislike for Luther, due to his very anti-semitic stance, which unfortunately was used as a tool/licence by the Third Reich. I have other reasons for rejecting orthodoxy that I have no doubt you would castigate me for. Having said that, I am not (having once willingly allowed myself to be brainwashed and ignored the glaring errors for far to many years) blind to listening to reason tempered with much prayer and waiting for the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
I had a strange breakthrough a long while back, brought about by two Jews. I was driving and I switched on the radio and Simon & Garfunkel were singing "The Boxer",
I am just a poor boy, though my story's seldom told,
I have squandered my resistance,
For a pocket full of mumbles, such are promises....
and it was like someone turned up the volume when they got to the line....
Still a man hears what he wants to hear and he disregards the rest.
In many ways you are beating a dead horse with those who persist with Revivalist doctrine. Unless people are willing to hear, pray about what they are unsure about, are open to being changed, or have some kind of epiphany, they will cling to their false Revivalist dogma.
I was distressed recently when I was told that some folk in Coffs Harbour that have left the CAI are now holding house meetings with everything the same as it was, but without Scott's Fourth Reich in charge. Same dogma, same talk sheet, same songbooks. The mind boggles! However I am mindful of 1 Corinthians Chapter 6 that talks of our ability (or inability) to judge. Yes such was I, and in many ways still am. I'm getting old, but I hope, not too old to learn and to change.
I know if I have nothing else of value, that I can pray. I have stated before and I will continue to state, that if my dear Father can accept this reprobate prodigal back and love him, who then cannot be redeemed?
My exhortation to you Ian is 1 Timothy 2:23 and 24 which you already know. Ignore the foolish questions or you may endanger yourself getting caught up in striving against those who at present will not hear anyway. No one is bullet proof, be mindful for your own soul.
May God our Father bless us all,
John
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Re:To Ex GRC members only
(Date Posted:23/07/2009 04:46:50)
Sorry LS, it seems I edited and replied within your post by mistake, when I should have quoted and replied.
Ian is a valued regular, but his "Dr. Gregory House" style seems to rub some members the wrong way and we thought they would appreciate the elbow room in a thread of their own in which to vent freely. I have had the opportunity to get to know many members over the years behind the scenes here in the forum, and I can tell you (as my grandpa used to say), there's a bed for Ian in my house anytime. There are so many amazing visitors here with courageous stories that want to share and want to help, all with something unique to bring to the table.
I say we should bust the recent negativity in the forum with a bit more respect and tolerance. A little positivity goes a long long way!
Mojo MOddy
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RE:To Ex GRC members only
(Date Posted:23/07/2009 05:56:13)
Ian is a valued regular, but his "Dr. Gregory House" style seems to rub some members the wrong way and we thought they would appreciate the elbow room in a thread of their own in which to vent freely.
I always want to beat House to death too, with his own cane. Or use a LOT of gaffer tape.
I say we should bust the recent negativity in the forum with a bit more respect and tolerance. A little positivity goes a long long way!
Sounds fair.
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Didaktikon
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Reply To Fremde
(Date Posted:23/07/2009 17:26:38)
Hi, John.
Sage advice (which I do appreciate), and I hear what you're saying. However, although reasoning with Revivalists can often prove as challenging as reproaching a two year old for throwing a "hissy-fit", eventually just as the two year old starts to see reason, so too do many Revivalists. As you and I conclusively prove, God does work on people; it's simply that he sometimes uses other people to "wear them down" a bit first!
In summary, I pretty much view what I "do" with Revivalists to be a ministry of pre-evangelism: seeking no more than to remove as much of the "junk" thinking and faulty presuppositions as possible.
Blessings,
Ian
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Re:To Ex GRC members only
(Date Posted:23/07/2009 22:41:33)
what the hell is a troll??
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