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Re:Silence
(Date Posted:16/05/2009 20:12:10)
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Didaktikon
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Reply To Albino%20Luciani
(Date Posted:16/05/2009 20:26:04)
Good morning, Albino.
This forum used to be a place where significant personal experiences were discussed. Who can forget the issues raised by Lemons, Pilinuts, David E (sorry, I can't recall his forum name) and others? This activity has now ceased.
Okay, but which activity has ceased? That which takes place in the wider forum? Or had you in mind simply the GRC elements and with them specific personalities? If you meant the former, then I'd have to disagree. It seems to be 'chugging' along as it always has. But if you meant the latter, then it might help to remember that matters such as these tend to move in cycles. There was a period not too long ago, for example, when the GRC and its woes seemed to be the flavour-of-the-month.
Is this because these things no longer happen?
Perhaps.
Is it because it was only ever about the problems of a handful of people who have now moved on?
Again, perhaps. Whilst it appears that myriads read and monitor the forum, only a handful have ever been actively involved here. For example, your current nom-de-plume doesn't sound at all familiar to me; were you ever a regular who posted under a different name? And if so, why?
Is it because of the behaviour of one or two forum regulars?
Perhaps, but I doubt it. 'Regulars' are as the word implies, 'regular' in their interactions. And a significant number have been 'regular' here for years.
Or, is there another reason? What do you think?
I have a theory that's based on about a decade's worth of involvement on this forum and its predecessors. I believe that people 'arrive' here for (largely) one of two reasons. First, to find support and common ground with others who've shared a similar past or religious background. These people tend to congregate into loosely two groups (there clearly being a degree of overlap, however): (1) those who are after social interaction, and (2) those who wish to make sense of the religious 'stuff'. The second principle reason for people becoming involved here is to promote their particular social, political or religious agendas (after all that's why I post here, for example). Some forum 'folk' are active in seeking to defend the Christian faith against the Revivalist counterfeit. Others are active Revivalists, those who wish to promote their heretical beliefs in order to lure people away. Others still are no longer in fellowship with the principle Revivalist sects, but they continue to cling to the warped beliefs and practices of their former associations nonetheless. It's the latter two types of posters who invariably struggle the most here, and who generally "give up the ghost" the soonest. After all, it's people of this kind who eventually run into people of my kind.
However, there is another reason why some people no longer continue to engage here: they simply no longer need to. Generally it's those who've successfully moved on from their former Revivalist experiences, whether social or religious, and no longer require the sorts of engagements and support that this forum provides.
Blessings,
Ian
(Message edited by Didaktikon On 16/05/2009 20:32:31)
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Episkopeo
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Re:Silence
(Date Posted:17/05/2009 00:12:34)
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Hmmm, interesting name you've chosen there. Any significant reason for choosing it? You would know, of course, that Albino Luciani is the name of the very forward thinking, but hapless, Pope John Paul 1 who reigned for a mere 33 days before the Polish, Karol Wojtyla was elected as Pope John Paul 11. The real Albino Luciani, known to the Italian people as "Il Papa del Sorriso" - The Smiling Pope. God Bless Epi
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Glad-to be out
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Re:Silence
(Date Posted:17/05/2009 00:57:33)
In addition to Didaktikon's answers to your queries, I would like to point out that as the years pass, the empathy we (exGRcers) once shared with attendees of Noel's group diminishes.
Some of us wrote on the GRC site specifically hoping to inform, enlighten and encourage those who remained under Noel's control because we understood their situation.
We (exGRCers) DO understand - BUT- to be brutally honest, without empathy it becomes difficult to share or care to the degree that we once did.
Cheers,
Glad
(Message edited by Glad-to be out On 17/05/2009 01:52:39)
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Episkopeo
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Re:Silence
(Date Posted:17/05/2009 02:04:55)
Hi Albino Luciani.
I support what Ian, Brolga and Glad have said regarding your query.
The Forum acts as a type of group therapy, as helpful as any other group therapy. There are many successful groups of victims/survivors of all sorts of things. Revival is no different. Those who have had experience are able to fully appreciate the difficulties others face when they leave such as Revivalist groups, which impacts so dramatically on the lives of those who have been involved. As Ian said, support and common ground with others who've shared a similar past or religious background.
As well as getting support and comfort from others, giving the same to others is just as important for healing.
The forum is still a place where significant personal experiences are discussed. The personal does come into comments/questions/concerns in other categories and in the discussions that follow. The specific "Introductions and Stories" category still operates for those who would like to give their own particular account of their Revival experience.
You are at liberty to post your own story if you wish.
God Bless
Epi
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Re:Silence
(Date Posted:17/05/2009 16:51:32)
Hi Albino
I can only speak for myself and my reasons for posting on this forum.
Initially I found it to be a way of telling my 'story' and my experiences in the two revival groups I'd been involved in (RCI which later 'evolved' into RF). I had been browsing for a few months before I officially 'left' and was astounded at the fact that so many other people had similar experiences to mine. As time went on and the healing process (not that I'd been 'hurt' particularly, so perhaps I should call it my 'repenting' process) continued I began to make some connections here with people that had been so hurt and had virtually given up on God. It broke my heart (yes, I'm a female and we deal with 'heart' matters!!) to think that because of bad experiences, and some were quite horrific, that people would turn away from God completely. I sure don't have the scriptural answers for them (but there are others here who do) but I do have one important thing - love - for the struggling, the hurting and the lost. I've seen that the seed of bitterness is something that can ruin the rest of one's life if left to grow so if there's anything at all that I can do to encourage others then I'm content with that.
An important Christian principle to me is "that which has been received, freely give to others" - whether it be support, comfort, love, empathy. Whilst I am still on a journey (who isn't?) and have SO much to learn (who doesn't?) I'm loving the freedom that I've found in the last couple of years to pursue and deepen my relationship with my Lord and Saviour.
Thanks for listening Alb.
Urchin
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motmot
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Re:Silence
(Date Posted:18/05/2009 07:51:39)
Yes, it has been very quiet recently but none the less there is much activity behind the scene, as Brolga has stated, Quote : "I don’t believe this activity has ceased. Take note of the number of users that are logged in at times."
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I have lots to tell of happenings of events over recent months (and much has happened) of who have 'walked', and of those who have 'talked', about things that people 'high-up' say behind Noddy Noels back, (eg. "I'd like to poison his coffee"), but for the moment I am holding back 'upon request' to preserve the ID of some involved for their personal privacy.
The information I have been told actually shocked me into new thinking ! We may well be wrong about Nasty Noddy Noel and us waiting for him to 'go to the other side' (to die), but from the internal rumblings from deep with-in the bowels of discontent of the Hallowed Walls of the Cult, it appears that the wait may be short lived! The way things are moving, the end of the 4th Reich, Noddy's Empire may not expire when he is gone but rather it looks like it's about to " Implode" upon itself !
It is not just a few who have been put-out or left, but those who are high up are grumbling amongst themselves and the dislikes of each other in the hierarchy, even hatred of each other and with-in families (relos). Division is at fever-pitch and Noddy has a huge battle at his feet, ready to spue all over his kingdom.
So Albino Luciani , don't be fooled by the 'quiet time' we are experiencing at present, the cruelty continues on and the worst is yet to come, be patient and keep an eye out for coming events. The writing is on the wall. Noddy is about to become the .......
" Biggest Looser "
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prezy
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RE:Silence
(Date Posted:18/05/2009 16:35:41)
Hi Mot Mot, very interesting post. I seen a bit of what you are talking about while I was "in". When you look at the structure of the organisation, pretending to be appointed by God but in reality structured through bullying and fear. Mind control tactics etc. it has to fall apart. It took communism a long time to wind down but it did eventually. Not sure how other refomed Churches operate but the Presbyterian system has checks and balances to ensure that leading men don't get full of power and pride and end up like Noel. Our Moderator General is appointed by elders after much prayer and can only hold office for one year. How would noel or addison like that! At the end of the day the true Church has Christ as its head. Whether they admit it or not grc and its associating groups look to Noel. They call him an apostle not even knowing what that means. I know he is pretty old but I dont think he was around before Jesus died on the cross.
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Reply To Albino%20Luciani
(Date Posted:23/06/2009 05:39:58)
Reply to Albino Luciani (16/05/2009 09:28:21)
This forum used to be a place where significant personal experiences were discussed. Who can forget the issues raised by Lemons, Pilinuts, David E (sorry, I can't recall his forum name) and others? This activity has now ceased.
Is this because these things no longer happen?
Is it because it was only ever about the problems of a handful of people who have now moved on?
Is it because of the behaviour of one or two forum regulars?
Or, is there another reason? What do you think? I agree with what Glad has said.....after being attacked over and over again with hateful evil slander for exposing the truth, a soul can get "over it" and just move on..I know that is what several of those you have mentioned have done. And on an fascinating note...interesting how there havent been any of those hateful posts.web sites etc from GRC "guests "since NHH was alerted to what they were up to and individuals were spoken to about it..of course all denied that they had any knowledge of the postings..but those who know better............really DO know better!
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prezy
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RE:Silence
(Date Posted:23/06/2009 15:43:00)
The fighting we are having between ourselves on this forum is playing right into the hands of hollins and his crew, RCI etc.. I am sure he would be gloating over it, and naturally he wont see that the splits all of these so called churches have had since brittish isreal met glossalia are really no different, although the impact on peoples lives is very different. Our disagreements are not causing suicides and marraige breakups. Their's possibly have.WE NEED TO BE UNITED AND REMEMBER THE COMMON ENEMY.
(Message edited by prezy On 23/06/2009 15:54:46)
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prezy
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RE:Silence
(Date Posted:23/06/2009 15:49:01)
Be good to focus on some positives, I can only speak for my family but we are happy, our walk with the Lord is great and we are not bitter and twisted, but we were starting to be while in revival.
(Message edited by prezy On 23/06/2009 15:59:20)
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RE:Silence
(Date Posted:24/06/2009 04:10:40)
my reason for not coming here as much as I use to is just to busy ... things to do ... a life to live ... however I do occasionally come here just to see what's happening, and leave comments when I feel like it ... just like this! 
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"You need to do what your heart knows is right"
So I did, and quit the GRC that same night.
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RE:Silence
(Date Posted:24/06/2009 04:42:30)
I agree with YNM, but would add that this place helped me out heaps after I left and made me realise that I wasn't the only victim of a manipulative little man. I comment sometimes, but not often, as most of the time others have made the comments I would have made anyway. 
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