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(Date Posted:04/06/2006 03:35:04)
Reply to : IfYouLuvSomething
Reply to : SpartacasReply to : rtas_dYou won't get any members to talk about what has happened your lucky to get that much out of them........We are talking about20+ people who are apparently going to burn in hell for an eternity - and the circumstances surrounding the one in Vancouver.....I would expect a bit more faith in God and courage on behalf of those remaining to stand up and say 'Hold on - why did so many people just get tossed out?' Does not anyone wonder??? They are used to one leaving, then maybe another, as people may slowly fall away. But a large group all at once?I found this interesting.......the 20+ people were quite involved in the assembly, most of them saved 5 - 18 yrs:3
Hrmm....that too is interesting. Same concerns, but too scared......understandable yes. I suppose this is the true test of faith in God is, isn't it? Believe the word or believe the man.
Fear has immobolized many. But so has comfort zones and pride. In the end, it is all the choice of the individual, as the word will even tell you - we are accountable for ourselves alone. Nowhere have I read that stepping out in faith over ANY matter would be easy or feely-goody. It is probably one of the hardest things to do - but it can be done.
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(Date Posted:04/06/2006 23:53:29)
Reply to : IfYouLuvSomething
.......the 20+ people were quite involved in the assembly, most of them saved 5 - 18 yrs:
3 Directors of the 'Society' (registered as a non-profit)
an elder
a youngies leader
6+ brothers used in the ministry in other parts of Canada
10 musicians
a babysitting coordinator (+ 2 former)
a current sunday school teacher (+ many former)
a duty roster coordinator (title?)
a rides coordinator
a camp coordinator
a recorder of the words (?)
a keeper of the books (those approved of NH of course)
.......... the ones that remain had the same concerns as the ones that left...to scared to admit it though...
Interesting stats!!! Seems obvious to me that what's left of the original GRC Vancouver assembly is what Noel Hollins wants; Spiritually weak and spineless followers who are too afraid to stand up for the TRUTH, and walk by faith and not by sight. In fact those who eulogize Noel Hollins can't walk at all. There's NO BACKBONE left in Noel's groups. Noel Hollins prefers to push his loyal worshippers around in wheel chairs than acknowledge he is not the mediator to Christ.
Oh Noel, Noel, Noel. Will you realise you are nothing in God's sight before you die???
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(Date Posted:05/06/2006 00:57:15)
Reply to : Revival Relief
Reply to : IfYouLuvSomething.......the 20+ people were quite involved in the assembly, most of them saved 5 - 18 yrs:3Directors of the 'Society' (registered as a non-profit)an elderayoungies leader6+ brothers used in the ministry in other parts of Canada10 musiciansa babysitting coordinator (+2 former)a current sunday school teacher (+ many former)a duty roster coordinator (title?)a rides coordinatora camp coordinatora recorder of the words (?)
Amen.
A.M. from the Vancouver Assembly gave a talk once on how the word was the plumb-line - how all things must be measured by the word and the word alone. Unfortunately, perhaps he has forgotten the very word he gave, because he was one of those who sat down for Noel Hollins.  But then again his wife, L.M. (from Australia), told me in these words, "I want to be right in the core with the ministry." So perhaps, the word wasn't forgotten, but rather pushed aside for personal desires.....?
Regardless, RevRel said it right in the post above. And so amen again.
I Remain Standing.
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(Date Posted:07/06/2006 16:47:20)
well , I'm not reporting on some-one I've meet but I was just cruz'en through the web and looked at the satelite imagery of a few various places. One being the GRC Pty.Ltd. properties.I was suprised to see just how many proerties Naughty Noel Has in HIS POSSESION. A tidy nest egg in any langauge.
A very interesting site, to zoom into "others back yard " and even see their car parked in the drive. I even had a look at Morning Sunshine's old house, but I maybe wrong as to which house .I will have to go and have a go look to see what colour the roof tiles are to prove to myself which is the correct one.
Yes, you guessed it, we're watching you Naughty Noel !
Come-On !
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(Date Posted:29/06/2006 14:32:59)
Reply to : Revival Relief
Is it true David that the GRC has now set up hidden video cam's around the outside of the hall to counter ex-members?
This come's from a P.I who has detected them.
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(Date Posted:10/08/2006 03:38:30)
$%*'`[A fly on the wall.]%*'`@ yes I have run into members of the GRC in Vancouver well he is in the Vancouver ass.
P.B. was having a drink with his brother when I came into the pub for lunch. He was having a beer. What! He was having a BEER and he's in the GRC Noel Hollins cult. Well we all know that he's going to hell don't we?
And he told me that his cousin and his wife and two kids are going to live in the home of his sister (not the one drinking the beer) whom is a BACKSLIDER!!! whilst the devil (the backslider) is away on vacation for three weeks. This is also from what I understand is the same home where the other DEVIL BACKSLIDER his brother is living. So Noel it looks like you have some cutting and kicking to do in the next couple of weeks. I know I know it sounds like gossip but "That's the news and I'm out of here!"
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(Date Posted:20/08/2006 07:11:27)
Reply to : A fly on the wall. [Anonymous]
yes I have run into members of the GRC in Vancouver well he is in the Vancouver ass.P.B. was having a drink with his brother when I came into the pub for lunch. He was having a beer. What! He was having a BEER and he's in the GRC Noel Hollins cult. Well we all know that he's going to hell don't we?And he told me that his cousin and his wife and two kids are going to live in the home of his sister (not the one drinking the beer)whom is a BACKSLIDER!!! whilst the devil (the backslider) is away on vacation for three weeks. This is also from what I understand is the same home where the other DEVIL BACKSLIDER his brother is living. So Noel it looks like you have some cutting and kicking to do in the next couple of weeks. I know I know it sounds like gossip but "That's the news and I'm out o
Oh WOW!!!! I saw P.B. downtown with a cigar totally loaded and begging for spare change. He must be really down in the dumps! I think he was on crack!!! hanging around with sleezies. So much for holy living!!!!
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(Date Posted:21/08/2006 00:37:32)
Reply to : Anonymous
Reply to : A fly on the wall. [Anonymous]yes I have run into members of the GRC in Vancouver well he is in the Vancouver ass.P.B. was having a drink with his brother when I came into the pub for lunch. He was having a beer. What! He was having a BEER and he's in the GRC Noel Hollins cult. Well we all know that he's going to hell don't we?And he told me that his cousin and his wife and two kids are going to live in the home of his sister (not the one drinking the beer)whom is a BACKSLIDER!!! whilst the devil (the backslider) is away on vacation for three weeks. This is also from what I understand is the same home where the other DEVIL BACKSLIDER his brother is living. So Noel it looks like you have some cutting and kicking to do in the next couple of weeks. I know I know it sounds like gossip but "That's the news and I'm ou
Who is PB some clues please?
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(Date Posted:21/08/2006 10:12:06)
Reply to : Anonymous
Reply to : AnonymousReply to : A fly on the wall. [Anonymous]yes I have run into members of the GRC in Vancouver well he is in the Vancouver ass.P.B. was having a drink with his brother when I came into the pub for lunch. He was having a beer. What! He was having a BEER and he's in the GRC Noel Hollins cult. Well we all know that he's going to hell don't we?And he told me that his cousin and his wife and two kids are going to live in the home of his sister (not the one drinking the beer)whom is a BACKSLIDER!!! whilst the devil (the backslider) is away on vacation for three weeks. This is also from what I understand is the same home where the other DEVIL BACKSLIDER his brother is living. So Noel it looks like you have some cutting and kicking to do in the next couple of weeks. I know I know it sounds like gossip but "That's
P.B. in Vancouver Assembly ------> Patrick Brownell.
P.B.'s cousin? ------------------------> Terry Brownell, and wife, Narelle Brownell with 2 daughters.
Is the beer surprising? Not at all lol. The whole place is a mess, full of people proclaiming holiness & purity and living the complete opposite. Sad really; hell, just be honest and enjoy your life, at least then you won't have to be a hypocrite.
I Remain Standing.
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(Date Posted:21/08/2006 10:14:18)
PB is TB's cousin. PB was a heroin addict before he came and it was sus'd that he never really did kick the habit. It was really not known until Nat was there for about a year.
Reply to : A fly on the wall. [Anonymous]
yes I have run into members of the GRC in Vancouver well he is in the Vancouver ass.P.B. was having a drink with his brother when I came into the pub for lunch. He was having a beer. What! He was having a BEER and he's in the GRC Noel Hollins cult. Well we all know that he's going to hell don't we?And he told me that his cousin and his wife and two kids are going to live in the home of his sister (not the one drinking the beer)whom is a BACKSLIDER!!!
I hope you bought him a beer. Did you ask him about the cast on his arm ?
He got into a fight with PT about some money PT owed him. He had PT down on the ground and was hitting him in the head when PT moved to one side and PB smashed his fist into the asphalt, breaking 2 fingers and doing tendon and muscle damage to his hand and arm. Cast on for 3-4 months. PT looked pretty bad for a couple of weeks after.
How does PB get away with it?
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(Date Posted:23/08/2006 22:49:18)
Reply to : Anonymous
I hope you bought him a beer. Did you ask him about the cast on his arm ?He g
PAT PAT PAT! Now that is a good question. If I hit someone I would go to jail or at least be stood down for a time. Was this person a brother?
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(Date Posted:23/08/2006 22:50:25)
Reply to : Anonymous
I hope you bought him a beer. Did you ask him about the cast on his arm ?He g
Nat would know about heroin.
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(Date Posted:24/08/2006 02:35:55)
Reply to : Anonymous
Was this person a brother?
yes Vancouver people would know who PT is, wife ET, 2 kids
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(Date Posted:24/08/2006 02:57:00)
PT the Sunday School Leader
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(Date Posted:26/08/2006 03:35:06)
Reply to : Anonymous
PT the Sunday School Leader
Poor PT He was such a nice guy. Loves to do his wife's chores, cooks better than she does and loves to pick her outfit. Great fashion sense. Very gentle and loves to hang around and chat with the ladies about kids and fashion and stuff. Truly accomodating. Everyone likes him
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(Date Posted:29/08/2006 19:38:35)
Reply to : Anonymous
I hope you bought him a beer. Did you ask him about the cast on his arm ?He g
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I've never known Pat to have enough money to lend to someone.
He did start a new job lately and was not spending the full weeks at the Vancouver camp. He only went on weekends. I had to quit several jobs when summer camp came around as I did not get time off. Have things changes for the better?
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(Date Posted:30/08/2006 00:35:09)
Reply to : Anonymous  NO! THEY STILL EXIST AND ARE HAVING CAMPS!!!!!!!!
Cheers,
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(Date Posted:02/09/2006 23:03:37)
Reply to : Anonymous
------------------------------I've never known Pat to have enough money to lend to someone.He did start a new job lately and was not spending the full weeks at the Vancouver camp. He only went on weekends. I had to quit several jobs when summer camp came around as I did not get time off. Have things changes for the better?
ReallY? I heard he won big on the lottery recently. Heard he may have to give it all back though. You know the rules. Must sweat for the dollar.
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(Date Posted:08/09/2006 02:20:21)
$%*'`[dead man walking]%*'`@
I think that I posted the first following bit of information in the wrong spot.. So I've moved it here...
I've also included the first response that I received and would just like to say that you are not very comforting. So I have a self inflicted death to look forward to. No wonder this site now SUCKS!!!
Date Posted: 07/09/2006 05:09:15 AM
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What I've noticed with the Geelong Revival Centre Cult Members is that when you scratch the surface and let in some light that they are filled with hate and bitterness.
If you mention anything that is posted on this site to them and their family their evilness breaks out and they turn vicious. My own brother said that if I keep up what I was saying to him and his family that he would "PUT RELIGION ASIDE AND BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF ME" I didn't know that you could step in and out of your beliefs that easily.
And he also said that god would "TAKE CARE OF ME." And he used a reference to another person that god "TOOK CARE OF" several years ago when god made this guy kill himself.
Date Posted: 07/09/2006 11:29:07 AM
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Reply to : Anonymous There was a technique used in the GRC called "Praying them out" where if someone was annoying you, you prayed and asked the Lord to "take care of them" with whatever ramifications went with that.
If the person-died etc, it was the Lord's doing and therefore you weren't responsible.
I must admit, that I did "pray some people out" of my life, only once because I was too scared to do it again. I don't know if it was coincidence or not (I would assume it was), but without any planning or warning the parents and children left the State permanently the weekend after the Prayer.
NOW THAT IS POWER!!!
Cheers,
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(Date Posted:08/09/2006 02:35:19)
Reply to : dead man walking [Anonymous]  I didn't mean to scare you, just show you how stupid the GRCers are to think that anything they do with regard to "praying people out" is pretty ludicrous.
It is just that they and me (at the time) were so full of our own self importance that we actually thought God would harm people on our (the chosen ones) behalf and there was no morality of thought when that tecnique was empolyed.
I think that to belong to the GRC and to believe you are God's only chosen people on Earth, brings with it a lot of pride and a loss of compassion in general.
The Forum IS a bit slow at the moment, but we all get tired and run out of steam every now and then.
If you could keep up some posts, that would add another dimension to the Forum.
Cheers,
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(Date Posted:09/03/2007 11:50:42)
Reply to : Revivals Blood
Its funny, these's this one GRC member i run into in the street nearly 2-3 times a week. I think its driving him nuts, lol. As we used to be good mates i'm always happy to see him. But sadly the look of Hate fills his eye's, and is such a strain for him to nod his head and mutter the words hello.But at time's i have also met other current members who are happy to have a little chit chat.So how have you all found running into current members?
an oldy but a goodie! lol
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A man died and went to heaven. He was met by Jesus and Jesus began to show him around. As they walked they saw some amazing things. Some too beautiful and amazing to describe. Eventually they came to a huge wall and the man heard the sound of music, laughing and what basically sounded like a party coming from behind the wall. Curious, the man asked Jesus what was going on behind the wall.
Jesus answered, "Shhhh!!! Not too loud. That"s the GRC. They think they"re the only ones here!!!"
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(Date Posted:21/04/2007 16:06:34)
I haven't had the joy of bumping into current GRC members for a while, but I remember it happining not long after I first left, it is quite funny, they don't seem to know which way to look, or whether to say anything or not. Some of the people who snobbed me off just after I left the GRC, are people who have now left themselves and even post in these forums, so Praise God that they have left. Don't worry though I don't hold any grudges, you were only acting in the way you thought you had to at the time. I can also remember when I was in the GRC and I actually acted the same way to other backsliders. But inside I was kinda excited that I had seen a real live backslider, and the funny thing was they didn't seem anywhere near as bad or evil as I was lead to believe. Isn't it ironic that the GRC want their members to think the backsliders are misrable, but really it seems that it's the other way around ...
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"You need to do what your heart knows is right"
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(Date Posted:22/04/2007 14:36:31)
hi Brolga ,
You are so right ,, it's all to do with power. The control over other peoples lives and space .
You speak also of " forgiveness" . Many will say " sorry " but it really is only a means of getting themselves out of an embarrassing situation after being " caught out ", but to " forgive " shows a genuine truth of ones inner-most heart and it's from the heart that the Lord shall judge us. ..... good on - ya. Of course not many will for give Nasty Noel because of the deeds he has committed upon them, but it does take something special for some-one to " forgive ", something Stupid Noel is incapable of doing!
........ and all the " back sliders " said .....? ... well , I won't comment.
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(Date Posted:22/04/2007 15:09:47)
Reply to : motmot
.... and all the " back sliders " said .....?
A B I G H A R T Y A M E N !!!
If we can forgive them, then we can move on and get on with our lives.
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"You need to do what your heart knows is right"
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(Date Posted:23/04/2007 00:46:54)
Forgiveness is a hard one for me.
For instance,just of the top of my head:
Do we forgive when hate has just fatigued us?
Do we forgive when we don't care?
Do we forgive when our heart is strong and can bear the burden of life's injustices?
Do we forgive when we love life so much our heart flows broad and full like a river to the sea?
Do we forgive for our own psycological self preservation?
Is it appropriate that people that harm others should be forgiven?
And lastly,
Do we forgive because this is a way of psychological empowerment? Eg: turning the other cheek as a statement of I'm better than you, of psychological one upmanship, of needing to elevate oneself because one feels under another, inferior. One forgives, therefore, because one is motivated by resentment. Resentment. What motivatees you to forgive? I ask myself and do not always stay for an answer.
To be sure, forgiveness can be a mixture of the above, but that's ok, that's human. After all, I suspect the whole reigious lie of the afterworld and heaven up in the sky is a resentment of life itself, borne of the little jewish heretical sect's hatred of it's own purgation, disempowerment, social worthlessness. So what did they have?... stories, judgements, moralities of the disempowered (the resentful), .. the poor inhereit the earth, etc, even fantsies of power (tongues and prophecy, etc) so great is the resentment to this world. So great was their ego, and the need to justify their own patheticness and as a way of asserting their superiority to the others, to the "unsaved". So they bash around the heads of the unworthy, to appropriate and conquer, to make the natural and often beautiful sinful and ugly, to make life itself of the devil and then to forgive. What audacity.
So, friends, forgiveness can be a very murky thing and not at all virtouous.
What motivates you to forgive? Ask yourself and see if you can stay for an answer.
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(Date Posted:24/04/2007 09:01:11)
Reply to : Brolga
Reply to : youngies_no_moreReply to : motmot.... and all the " back sliders " said .....?A B I G H AR T Y A M E N !!!If we can forgive them, then we can move on and get on with our lives.A "backslider" (the word not even mentioned in the new testament) is notone that leaves or is excommunicated froman assembly or group, but one who stops believing in the Lord. Amen?
Hi Broga, and hows things?
Haven't seen your name on here before. i haven't been on this site for a few weeks so its always nice to see more and more people find out about this site.
cheers.
Warrick
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A man died and went to heaven. He was met by Jesus and Jesus began to show him around. As they walked they saw some amazing things. Some too beautiful and amazing to describe. Eventually they came to a huge wall and the man heard the sound of music, laughing and what basically sounded like a party coming from behind the wall. Curious, the man asked Jesus what was going on behind the wall.
Jesus answered, "Shhhh!!! Not too loud. That"s the GRC. They think they"re the only ones here!!!"
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(Date Posted:25/04/2007 05:47:31)
Reply to : Brolga
Reply to : Revivals BloodReply to : BrolgaReply to : youngies_no_moreReply to : motmot.... and all the " back sliders " said .....?A B I G H AR T Y A M E N !!!If we can forgive them, then we can move on and get on with our lives.A "backslider" (the word not even mentioned in the new testament) is notone that leaves or is excommunicated froman assembly or group, but one who stops believing in the Lord. Amen?Hi Broga, and hows things?Haven't seen your name on here before. i haven't been on this site for a few weeks so its always nice to see more and more people find out about this site.cheers.WarrickHi Warrick,Just a short response at moment. I havebeen following forum for a while, mostly on RF site. I know youand your family and I'm sure you have he
thats cool!
send us a email when you feel like chatting.
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Contact Warrick mob- 0415326468, email- revivalrecovery@yahoo.com.au for help and free counselling for victims of REVIVAL abuse.
A man died and went to heaven. He was met by Jesus and Jesus began to show him around. As they walked they saw some amazing things. Some too beautiful and amazing to describe. Eventually they came to a huge wall and the man heard the sound of music, laughing and what basically sounded like a party coming from behind the wall. Curious, the man asked Jesus what was going on behind the wall.
Jesus answered, "Shhhh!!! Not too loud. That"s the GRC. They think they"re the only ones here!!!"
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(Date Posted:25/04/2007 10:23:25)
Reply to : Revivals Blood
Hi Warrick,
I remember you as well, I have you on video tape when you were about 13. I tried to e-mail you but it bounced back.
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"You need to do what your heart knows is right"
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(Date Posted:30/04/2007 14:18:01)
Reply to : youngies_no_more
Reply to : Revivals BloodHi Warrick,I remember you as well, I have you on video tape when you were about 13. I tried to e-mail you but it bounced back.
try this email add - melbournecityroofing@yahoo.com.au
or revivalrecovery@yahoo.com.au
my mob no is - 0415326468 (please any one feel free to call)
hope to hear from you soon!
cheers
Warrick
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Contact Warrick mob- 0415326468, email- revivalrecovery@yahoo.com.au for help and free counselling for victims of REVIVAL abuse.
A man died and went to heaven. He was met by Jesus and Jesus began to show him around. As they walked they saw some amazing things. Some too beautiful and amazing to describe. Eventually they came to a huge wall and the man heard the sound of music, laughing and what basically sounded like a party coming from behind the wall. Curious, the man asked Jesus what was going on behind the wall.
Jesus answered, "Shhhh!!! Not too loud. That"s the GRC. They think they"re the only ones here!!!"
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(Date Posted:27/06/2007 10:16:37)
Reply to : youngies_no_more
I haven't had the joy of bumping into current GRC members for a while, but I remember it happining not long after I first left, it is quite funny, they don't seem to know which way to look, or whether to say anything or not. Some of the people who snobbed me off just after I left the GRC, are people who have now left themselves and even post in these forums, so Praise God that they have left. Don't worry though I don't hold any grudges, you were only acting in the way you thought you had to at the time. I can also remember when I was in the GRC and I actually acted the same way to otherbacksliders. But inside I was kinda excited that I had seen a real live backslider, and the funny thing was they didn't seem anywhere near as bad or evil as I was lead to believe. Isn't it ironic that the GRC want their members to think theback
Well ~ who do I start with.. Daily I run into various GRCers.. Just today I went down to the bank and oh my oh my what did i see. One of the ( elder) over sights 16 year old sons in school uniform holding hands with a girl walking down the street !! Yep from the same school hand in hand. I know she is not 'saved' ! And this is not aurthorised by the da man !
So how did I handle this ?? I pulled over and waited until they walked past then tooted my horn and waved ' yelling out hey there ####### how are you ? Seeings I left the CULT some months ago he know who I was and I have never seen fear in some one like that I didnt know what to do with my info but this young 'saint' knows waht I saw and I have that on him.. Its such a good feeling...
Yesterday down the supermarket I saw a young mother from the assembly my own age and she looked straight at me. When I left I wanted them all to know I dont care who is 'saved' and who is 'unsaved'. So I delibrately made steady eye contact and held it as I said Hello #### .. again to my suprise this person looked as if they had just seen a ghost.
Ohh the power a 'back Slider' has ... And who is lives in fear ?
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(Date Posted:27/06/2007 13:45:36)
Reply to Never To Late,
How odd ! I was just going to look for this Topic / Thread tonight as I too have experienced this very evening.
I was in a " small " supermarket when I saw a GRC'er walking towards me, but he must of spotted me first as he ' pretended ' he had his eye on something in the next row and just ' happened ' to walk right past me as I watched him. Strange , isn't it ! but then he did it again as we crossed paths again in the next aisle ! Oh, it was so obvious. How are you going Mark D-L. ?
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(Date Posted:27/06/2007 14:55:12)
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(Date Posted:30/06/2007 04:40:27)
i bumped into a member once who was a good mate .as i recall me and my new girlfrend were heading to the shops for something.we stopped for about ten min there were tears and every thing from both sides but on the whole it wasnt to bad .at the time i had a mow hawk and my girl had a shaved head with tatts and enough peircings to attract a lightning bolt . after a while the eyes glazed over and as though a string was pulled from his back he asked if i was coming back to the lord ."no .i dont think so man .the sex is just to good" to my suprise he smiled and said "fair enough man cant argue with that" . he's no lnger is a member
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(Date Posted:30/06/2007 06:16:41)
Reply to : beaudyboy
i bumped into a member once who was a good mate .as i recall me and my new girlfrend were heading to the shops for something.we stopped for about ten min there were tears and every thing from both sides but on the whole it wasnt to bad .at the time i had a mow hawk and my girl had a shaved head with tatts and enough peircings to attract a lightning bolt . after a while the eyes glazed over and as though a string was pulled from his back he asked if i was coming back to the lord ."no .i dont think so man .the sex is just to good" to my suprise he smiled and said "fair enough man cant argue with that" . he's no lnger is a member
Hey dude,
Had a good chuckle at that story. Sounds like a moment of truth there!
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(Date Posted:30/06/2007 09:03:16)
Reply to : beaudyboy
i bumped into a member once who was a good mate .as i recall me and my new girlfrend were heading to the shops for something.we stopped for about ten min there were tears and every thing from both sides but on the whole it wasnt to bad .at the time i had a mow hawk and my girl had a shaved head with tatts and enough peircings to attract a lightning bolt . after a while the eyes glazed over and as though a string was pulled from his back he asked if i was coming back to the lord ."no .i dont think so man .the sex is just to good" to my suprise he smiled and said "fair enough man cant argue with that" . he's no lnger is a member
Glad the sex was good, doesnt sound like anything else was very attractive!
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(Date Posted:30/06/2007 13:17:25)
Reply to : bearymagee
Reply to : beaudyboyi bumped into a member once who was a good mate .as i recall me and my new girlfrend were heading to the shops for something.we stopped for about ten min there were tears and every thing from both sides but on the whole it wasnt to bad .at the time i had a mow hawk and my girl had a shaved head with tatts and enough peircings to attract a lightning bolt . after a while the eyes glazed over and as though a string was pulled from his back he asked if i was coming back to the lord ."no .i dont think so man .the sex is just to good" to my suprise he smiled and said "fair enough man cant argue with that" . he's no lnger is a member .
Glad the sex was good, doesnt sound like anything else was very attractive!
maybe floral dresses and bad perms are still your thing.its not to soon to shake off those terrible fashion mistakes of your grc past.
i went to school with the girl in question, she was beautiful inside and out.
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RE:How have you found running into GRC members?
(Date Posted:14/04/2008 21:53:57)
I myself have found it difficult to enter shopping complexes locally for the past 7 months just incase I see someone from the CULT that I dont want too. Not because I am affraid of them or running from them. Not because they are better than Me or that I am lesser a person than they are But because it hurts me so much to know they are in contact with my darling wife and kid. And with every beat of my heart it hurts me that I cannot see my wife and kid. These people are a link "between'my wife and I.. Or should I say these peopleare the great
wall between my wife and I .. Working on her every opportunity to turn her against me.. Which they have been sucessful in doing so.
Just last night I gathered up the courage to visit a local super market and buy some supplies. And there it was that I ran into a current CULTIE. She saw me from a distance as did I - I held eye contact with her for as long as I could .. She virtually hurdled the chain over the aslie and hopped on one Foot trying to get over the barrier. It reminded me of an animal cornered trying to escape its capture..
Being the best person that God has allowed me to be I greeted this lady Hello and waved.. She just completely freaked out and kept walking ( slow jogging) away into the super market. ..
I was with my natural brothers fiance' and she had never seen how these poor down trodden people react and quiver when they see a backslidder in public.
I still today do not understand how they believe that they are of the 'Lord' when they cannot greet another man.
I hope that they are happy I cannot blame the followers of this cult any longer ! It is the leaders and elders that fool the followers into being arrogant and affraid.
My brothers fiance' was stunned as this woman was a bridesmaid in my wedding party and could
not get away from me fast enough.
it was like a rabbit in the wild running frantically running for its life.. My brothers never saved fiance' said to me as we walked past the scene" WOW YOU HAVE TO POWER, DONT CRY ........... YOU ARE FREE AND LOOK AT HER SHE IS STILL TRAPPED "
I thought to myself modestly how right she is I am Free and they are Trapped I wish and pray every day those poor people see through the CRAP NHH and his pastors are poisoning them With and RUN FREE NOT RUN AWAY !!
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RE:How have you found running into GRC members?
(Date Posted:07/05/2008 16:56:39)
I wasn't a former member of the GRC, however I had visited there a few times. I attended a differen't Revival Centre affiliated with them for nearly four years. Although my Run-ins with "Saints'' have been few they have been hilarious never the less. Out at the local shopping centre I saw a ''Saint'' heading towards me with a trolley full of Groceries and manoeuvre it in the blink of an eye in the small space between us. It was a highly tactical manoeuvre with great speed. She made a bee line for a Calender rack out the front of a store and proceeded to view the items. She was fascinated by them, eyes glued unable to blink, fixated upon these calendars as if they were hidden treasure. They weren't in fact they were unbeknown to her 2007 FHM Calenders, complete with bikini clad voluptuous ladies. Now what a lovely Testimony! Its funny how things become so i ntriguing when faced with a ''Backslider''! Advice for all ye ''Saints'' save yourself the embarrassment, just keep walking, if you want to pretend you haven't seen us, that way is so less subtle!
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RE:How have you found running into GRC members?
(Date Posted:07/05/2008 17:19:36)
I always make eye contact and say "hello".
Like you guest, I get a perverse type of pleasure from the reaction.
I just wish that they would show some guts and "eyeball" you, say "hi" and then move on.
It makes a mockery of the number of times we were told when we were "in there" that backsliders CAN'T look you in the eye - (for whatever ridiculous reasons we were given at the time).
Com'on you saints, you are God's chosen - look a backslider in the eye and say "HI".
You could make it a black ribbon day or something !!!!!
Cheers,
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Reply To From Brisbane
(Date Posted:08/05/2008 16:38:21)
Reply to From Brisbane (02/03/2006 07:33:58) I just had to replay on this topic. Following is not my experience but another so called backslider member of Bombay assembly. This ex-member once bumped into a 11-12 year old assembly member at the Bombay railway station. This young boy was begging on the station for money. Guess why. He did not have enough money to buy a ticket to go to attend meeting. This young boy and many other poor (slum dwellers) members of the assembly had told us that they had no money to buy train ticket and have regularly travelled without ticket risking police discipline. They were put in such a lot of pressure by Reg and Ronny to attend meetings that they regularly risked going to jail for it. Where is compassion for these naive souls. And does not scripture say that children of the righteous will not beg. When Reg ran away from Bombay he sold his 5 year old TV to the guardian of this young boy for twice the market price. Bloody Butcher. I read the above and was saddened because I remembered some old friends who had travelled to an assembly and heard of similar stories. ‘'Saints'' from an assembly with whom had very little money or possessions would go to great lengths to get to the meetings because that's all they had, their source of happiness. These ‘'Saints'' because of their great Love for the Lord would risk harsh punishments and risk everything by taking the train without a ticket and even get of stops early and walk kilometres to the meetings. Once these things were made known to the Pastor these poor ‘'Saints'' were taken aside and harshly spoken to for their lack of Faith and not trusting that the Lord would provide. They were accused of not being on Fire with the Lord for if they were they would have been blessed with the money and the Lord would have provided. I really feel for those ‘'Saints''.
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RE:How have you found running into GRC members?
(Date Posted:10/05/2008 01:28:32)
It would be interesting to know how many sheep are out in the wilderness rejected by man but not by the Lord. And how many goats in the House of God rejected by the Lord but not by man. There is sure to be many surprises. More Josephs out in the wilderness more, Tobias's within the house. It is more rewarding to be a sheep in the wilderness. A direct line looked after by the great shepherd himself. They are the ones that will be left standing on that terrible day of the Lord.
Remember, the Lord said that NO man can take you out of his hand. No not any man.
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RE:How have you found running into GRC members?
(Date Posted:10/05/2008 18:33:19)
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Alot of wisdom in those comments. I have often thought the same throughout the years. In the end you cannot fool God. God doesnt care what you look like or how often you attend meetings or fasts. The truth lies in the heart of a man and only God knows what that is. I truly believe there are alot of lost searching sheep out in the wilderness. In the past I think I unwittingly aligned God with Noel Hollins and imagined God to be like him. What guff and such naivety to think like that. God is just and compassionate and everything Noel isnt.
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RE:How have you found running into GRC members?
(Date Posted:14/05/2008 19:25:15)
Hi Guys,
This has been on My mind for awhile but couldn't be bothered adding but then I realised that is what the forum is for..
I often run into my old friends - the ones that are still going to heaven NOT !!
A couple of weeks ago i went to the Chiropractor for my neck.... Could you imagine my surprise to find a current zealot from the GRC in there waiting for teir appointment.. I guess they are not strong enough in the Lord to recieve the healing.... hhhmmm..
Then just this week went to the local GP for a shoot in the bum to kick out the last of an ongoing cold that I have had..... Again imagine my surprise behind the counter of the local GP a young 23 year old saint.. I just smiled And told them I was there for MEDICAL appointment. Hhhmmmm
Does Noddy know his saints are working and visiting the medical profession??? What about the 'us' and 'them' mentality that I was though every week..
What about calling on the Lord for the healing and dis-owning illness and sore bones?
TWO SETS OF RULES.. Hypocrisy in full effect !!
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RE:How have you found running into GRC members?
(Date Posted:05/06/2008 00:21:11)
Along the same lines,
Just last month as I passed a clinic, Lo and absolutely BEHOLD, i saw an 'Elder' of 'the assembly' and his offspring sitting in the clinic waiting to see the doctor.
.. excuse me? .. i thought they were supposed to show and tell their children to 'Trust the Lord only' for healing?
Let this be clear, it is totally fine, normal and humane for ANY human being (even if you're a GRCer) to be visiting a doctor when you are sick, nothing's wrong with that...
*(it's not supposed to be 'UNNATURAL' as what the GRCers worldwide hallucinate it to be)
...but, it is NOT FINE when 'THOSE ELECTED FEW' who emphasize week in week out to the simple faithful folks in the congregations, depriving and 'inspiring' the poor and clueless sick to 'Trust only the Lord to heal'... to be HIMSELF NOT practising his CONVICTION.
This simply spells that either the 'Elders' are now 'Faith-Shakened' already or simply administering TWO SETS OF RULES yet again. Either way, it's quite clear how 'the assemblies' are progressing and evolving from their
once-held-so-dear and tight 'Prayer-Healing-Only' belief.
.. are they changing or possibly dropping their 'SPECIALTY-DOCTRINE'??
Hypocrisy in full effect?
Yes.
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RE:How have you found running into GRC members?
(Date Posted:05/06/2008 00:45:45)
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Re:How have you found running into GRC members?
(Date Posted:09/12/2008 20:29:31)
Like Many Of 'us' I often cross paths with Culties in My local Area. I just manage to get their attention say a big happy hello. Then if I get a chance tell them to take care and great to see you.. I believe that this would effect them more than being spiteful.
However, the reason I have dug this topic up again is Sunday week ago Iwas down at the local shopping centre. I ran into a young exGRCer. He was born in to to the cult and his father is an elder in Croydon. Approximately 12 months ago he snuck out of his bedroom in the middle of the night and left his family and the Cult behind.
I know this because he left the Cult only weeks after I did.. I saw him (12 months ago) and We had an awkward Conversation. I think because We didnt know whether Either of us would end up back in the Cult.
Well 2 weeks ago I ran into him and we had a great chat. He is doing an apprent'ship as an electricain. He is living with his girlfriend and absolutely loving life. We openly joked about the weather and the fact that if we both had not left that we would be sitting indoors listening To the fat controller allan moron brain wash as the real world passed by. We addressed how lucky we are to be away From the evil and lies of the cult. It was such a great feeling seeing him and seeing him doing so well..
It really made me think that the only losers in this bundle of messed up cult crap are those stuck in it...
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